Attack on Titan - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by articuzwolf

lol unbased assumptions...

I agree.

It's unbased assumptions on Destined Fate's part. He already did plenty of it in Gundam Unicorn thread, SEED/Destiny thread, and now here. Seriously...

[Destined_Fate]

How it is unbased? Eren is her only family now anyway since she doesn't seem to care about Eren's dad. Than there's her strong feelings and desire to protect him so I can see her really getting messed up without Eren around. Especially if he dies and she wasn't there to protect him since she can't always be by his side despite how much she wants to.

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So... They ran into his dad and strange things happen that he cannot remember? Does Mikasa even know that he met his dad? Where is he now?

[jeroz]

Too early to call.

[Destined_Fate]

About the father, correct?

It was a very trippy scene but I'm sure that it's important and the "shot" he got and the "key" will be very important.

Or Eren is just tripping.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Lets just be honest, from the anime we know nothing about Mikasa asides from very minor detail. So currently we should not make any judgement on her character.

[Destined_Fate]

Well, we know she lost her family(Did she even have one?) since she lives with Eren and doesn't call his parents her own but his so they aren't hers. I also could have sworn that I saw flashbacks of a young Mikasa but I could be wrong and even than I had no idea what was going on in them. She also tends to work harder for Eren, like how she gave him some of her wood that she had gathered when he was sleeping. Carla even comments on that. Than there's the bread thing where she refused to let Eren starve despite his feelings because she cared for him too much to let him hurt himself so blatantly due to his pride.

Mikasa is very overprotective and when he says he's going to do something she keeps saying Yes in the end and follows him. She also seems very eager to please him such as when he told her to cut her hair, she did it without a second thought.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Again, there isn't enough detail, yet.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Well, we know she lost her family(Did she even have one?) since she lives with Eren and doesn't call his parents her own but his so they aren't hers. I also could have sworn that I saw flashbacks of a young Mikasa but I could be wrong and even than I had no idea what was going on in them. She also tends to work harder for Eren, like how she gave him some of her wood that she had gathered when he was sleeping. Carla even comments on that. Than there's the bread thing where she refused to let Eren starve despite his feelings because she cared for him too much to let him hurt himself so blatantly due to his pride.

Mikasa is very overprotective and when he says he's going to do something she keeps saying Yes in the end and follows him. She also seems very eager to please him such as when he told her to cut her hair, she did it without a second thought.

While she indeed is excessively protective, your arguments have zero merit. And even if you have right in few points it never is so overblown as you trying say. Try again after having some sound arguments.

[backbone]

I always wonder. Why the Titans seemingly only attack the entrance gate and not the random part of the walls? Does that mean the gate is the weakest part of the walls?

[Destined_Fate]

How has it had zero merit? She's shown all of those things in the episodes. Or are you saying that she doesn't care for Eren, isn't overprotective of him, that she doesn't put herself at risk for him(such as joining the military because he did), she didn't cut her hair because he told her, that she lets Eren do what he wants despite her doubts(again, military), follows him no matter what, or work harder for his sake? If so than I suggest you rewatch the episodes since clearly we aren't watching the same anime as she literally does all of that.

The gate isn't pure wall, it makes sense to attack the gate over the wall.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by backbone

I always wonder. Why the Titans seemingly only attack the entrance gate and not the random part of the walls? Does that mean the gate is the weakest part of the walls?

Obviously. That's most basic knowledge for conquering castles.

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

How has it had zero merit? She's shown all of those things in the episodes. Or are you saying that she doesn't care for Eren, isn't overprotective of him, that she doesn't put herself at risk for him(such as joining the military because he did), and doesn't work harder for his sake? If so than I suggest you rewatch the episodes since clearly we aren't watching the same anime.

Nope, I just saying you makes wrong conclusion of these facts.

[Destined_Fate]

No I'm not.

You don't even try and explain your point. All you said was that I'm wrong, and not even saying what is wrong(So I assume you mean everything is wrong in your eyes), which is quite frankly plain rude.

Either explain your point or don't bother leaving such rude comments as you're coming off as very offensive.

[backbone]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Obviously. That's most basic knowledge for conquering castles.

What i don't get is, why on earth they wouldn't strengthen it so that it would be more difficult to breach into? Considering that shiganshina and Wall Maria got taken down using similar fashion, i'm surprised they still let the gate as it is

Yeah yeah, i know this is nitpicking too much, but still bothering me nonetheless

[Destined_Fate]

If they tried to make it as good as a wall than it wouldn't really be able to function as a gate.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

You don't even try and explain your point. All you said was that I'm wrong, and not even saying what is wrong(So I assume you mean everything is wrong in your eyes), which is quite frankly plain rude.

Either explain your point or don't bother leaving such rude comments as you're coming off as very offensive.

All these debates partly stem from you saying this:

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Eren almost gets them killed too since Mikasa only stayed for the hopeless cause of saving his mother because she would not leave Eren.

Which basically blaming Eren for Mikasa’s staying there to help Carla. Quite frankly, that is plain wrong. Mikasa stayed because she wanted to help Carla. The excuses you came up with have done nothing to support your argument imo.

[eplipswich]

Like I said, Destined_Fate,

Anyway, we don't know the full extent of Mikasa's character yet so none of us (except for manga readers, but that's another story) can really make a firm conclusion of whether Eren has higher priority than his mother. So this quote

is merely your assumption/opinion.

Don't go around asserting that your conclusion is correct. I won't either. Let's just watch more episodes before we actually make a conclusion. Or if you insist, go read the manga and comment somewhere else. And I would just like to let you know that assumptions/personal opinions can be right or wrong. Only facts are absolutely correct, but not opinions. Right now for anime-only viewers, we lack enough facts to draw a firm conclusion on what we have discussed.

May I also refer you to the spoiler below:

Originally Posted by articuzwolf

lol unbased assumptions and

Spoiler for just in case:

all manga reader viewers will laugh reading this

I don't think you want to challenge a manga reader viewer, who obviously knows more than you do (if you're an anime-only viewer) now, do you? And surely you can get a hint or two that a number of posters here have read the manga before, right?

[Skane]

The ignore function is your best friend in such cases.

Cheers.

[Mubyoshi]

Heh, one of the things i like about the anime over the manga so far is the animation sequence when they're flying around, i love it! Hope to see more of it.

[n120cky]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Mikasa didn't stay because of Eren, she stayed because Carla was her family and she didn't want to lose more of her family again.

I believe Mikasa stay for both of them, Mikasa see both Eren and Carla as her family, don't know about the father thought.

Basically Mikasa did want to stop Eren (by telling the parrents about his plan) for joining army, because Eren is so obsessed to join recon grup.

Until now we see Mikasa always following Eren, that mainly because Eren stubbornness, that's why Mikasa will join grup where Eren join, because she can't stop him.

Hmm . . ., it's make me think the failed belt Eren using for basic 3DMG test, maybe Mikasa sabotage it so Eren won't pass the test . . .

[Hellrazor]

I just don't understand how the Titans were able to destroy the wall so easily. I mean if it was this easy why not do it earlier?