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Sakuya · 2006-02-02, 18:37

Spoiler:

I haven't seen the raw yet.

MattAlchemy · 2006-02-02, 18:43

Wow, Nina materializes into the new OP one.

Erstin is gone, looks like MH where they all die and disappear.

Many people are materializing.

Thanks for Tomoe for helping out instead of destroying more in this episode!(As that's what I see in the screenies...)

Yay. I can't wait to see this episode!

Qbi Sannin · 2006-02-02, 18:50

I knew somethin was up with Erstin! Ha! Oh man oh man...Irina's been caught. She might die soon too :[ This is gonna be one depressing ride again! I can't wait!

Juju · 2006-02-02, 18:54

*swoons and loves the sequential snaps* Especially keying in on one significant ShizNat (hopefully) moment - After they'd obviously dematerialized and are back to back -- With Shizuru yelling at Natsuki to leave. The latter relinquishing....THEN that one keyed in screen of Tomoe being held by those black hooded goons....EEEEEE!!! ^^;;

Ah me. Just speculating things on future happenings.... And yes...that woman coming out of the *weapon* Looks a helluva lot like Rena...

Omniscient · 2006-02-02, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

I'm confused from watching the screencaps. How did Nina get her GEM? I don't see Nagi giving it to her and there was never a conversation between Nagi and Nina talking about the GEM. So why all of a sudden?

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Originally Posted by Guido

Spoiler for On how to activate the Ultimate Black Diamond?:

Spoiler:

Anime Adoru · 2006-02-02, 19:16

If your download hasn't finished yet and you just can't wait...

You can thumb through the episode (full-size screenshots) here:

http://www.adoru.com/mai-otome/ep17pic01.html

But you might be spoiling your later RAW experience...

In any case, please let me know if something doesn't work as expected.

QU4RK · 2006-02-02, 19:16

Finnally I have watched the RAW, then I can enter this forum...

Spoiler for episode 17:

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2006-02-02, 19:25

Where did the "ultimate" in the "ultimate black diamond" came from?

Did they say so on screen? Because I can't see any words suggesting "ultimate" in the name of the GEM... It's Pitch Black, as far as the kanji's go...

ShinigamiRukia · 2006-02-02, 19:26

Spoiler:

QU4RK · 2006-02-02, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Where did the "ultimate" in the "ultimate black diamond" came from?

Did they say so on screen? Because I can't see any words suggesting "ultimate" in the name of the GEM... It's Pitch Black, as far as the kanji's go...

They said "densetsu" means "legendary"....

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-02, 19:35

Bleh. I thought post some of my "random thoughts" more often. I had an idea that Smith might have some attack on the Otome system itself - pretty logical way to take the city. I also was wondering the last few days if Erstin might be being forced to be part of Schwartz "just because her grades were good" - and back on one of the older polls, I voted for Erstin to be first to die. As soon as Erstin starting showing "bad guy" vibes in this ep, I knew it was time for her to die. Didn't expect Arika and Nina to be trying to kill each other just yet. Oh well. Erstin = Nicola+Tolle, in terms of driving the main characters to attack each other.

In a way though, Mashiro falls the most in this ep: goes from being just about to reveal her nice new castle and working towards becoming a better queen to her city being invaded and being told Arika's the true princess. Next week she seems to be wandering all alone through the desert.

As a side-note, one thing I haven't seen discussed is that Nagi brought up his own personal army, to "drive away" Schwartz's drones - he's just set himself up to be the (fake) hero of the day. So Nagi has just taken over Wind Bloom and the people will be happy for it...

As for next week: Natsuki seems alone mostly (Shizuru had to surrended to Schwartz in this ep), but meets up with Miyu. I wonder if Miyu will help Natsuki? Nothing showing of Arika, Sergay, Nina or Nagi...

PS Arika - you should have punched out Smith. That way, he couldn't order Erstin around anymore. Or Sergay, you should have shot him.

EnseiSong · 2006-02-02, 19:35

Only thing I didn't get is this for this ep:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ng/Anime/0.jpg

Isn't that Youuko's (sp? (Midori's sister)) shadow/figure/image?! Why is it there on that machine?

Omniscient · 2006-02-02, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Where did the "ultimate" in the "ultimate black diamond" came from?

Did they say so on screen? Because I can't see any words suggesting "ultimate" in the name of the GEM... It's Pitch Black, as far as the kanji's go...

Refer to this screenshot: http://randomc.animeblogger.net/imag...ck Diamond.jpg (Clicking won't work, copy paste into your browser)

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Originally Posted by EnseiSong

Only thing I didn't get is this for this ep:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ng/Anime/0.jpg

Isn't that Youuko's (sp? (Midori's sister)) shadow/figure/image?! Why is it there on that machine?

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Timeless Enigma · 2006-02-02, 19:39

Interesting episode. The shit definitely hit the fan.

Erstin dies (by Nina's hands)
Nina materializes
Arika's oji-sama is proven to be Sergay in front of Arika and Nina
Rad's original name before he became a cyborg was indeed Reito

Gutwrenching I tell you.

So everyone who bet that Erstin would be the first to bite it and be the Otome with the black letter, give yourselves a pat on the back, hahaha.

Now what the hell can happen now? Sergay's death is imminent, I can tell you that.

Even though so many things were going on I can't give this a 10. I am definitely getting a "rushed" vibe. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

The final shot in the preview looked more like Arika with her hair down... that's just my guess.

It seems Miyu helps Natsuki out judging from the preview (not before doing a little dance first).

EnseiSong · 2006-02-02, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Omniscient

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Oh yeah! I didn't know why I didn't think about that first, lol!!! They have the same hair cut

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-02, 19:39

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Originally Posted by QU4RK

They said "densetsu" means "legendary"....

Yeah, though that's not part of the title.

I guess they decided that: "jet black" = "very very black" = "ultimate black"

bluegarden · 2006-02-02, 19:42

nina and arika shouldn't be fighting each other, they should be teaming up and kill the one responsible! sergey!!

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-02, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Timeless Enigma

Now what the hell can happen now? Sergay's death is imminent, I can tell you that.

I don't think so. Arika and Nina just lost their friend Erstin. Neither are going to want to lose Sergay now. If Sergay's going to die it'll be close to the end. Besides, if Sergay dies now, there'll hardly be any male characters left.

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-02, 19:45

btw, another thing I'll say about this ep is that is sure had a lot of animation reuse. Kinda annoying since that aspect had been so good until now... but given how much new action and stuff they had, they just wouldn't have had the budget/time to do new animation for everything.

Kawool · 2006-02-02, 19:47

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Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata

I don't think so. Arika and Nina just lost their friend Erstin. Neither are going to want to lose Sergay now. If Sergay's going to die it'll be close to the end. Besides, if Sergay dies now, there'll hardly be any male characters left.

do ya remember mai hime with Takumi AND Tate death ? lol

i like sergay but well sadly i also think he will die.

As for the otome/weapon ..it really looks like Rena ...

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2006-02-02, 18:37	Link #141
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Spoiler: But there was nothing about how Nina and Nagi made a contract. When did that happen? And then suddenly he gets this new GEM out of nowhere and she picks Nina without telling her to be his Otome? I haven't seen the raw yet.

2006-02-02, 19:16	Link #147
QU4RK Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Finnally I have watched the RAW, then I can enter this forum... Spoiler for episode 17: Excellent eps. We have 4 Meister "Materialization". And I was right!!!! Erstin IS the otome in shadow at eps 16! And she is the otome that go down first... That one I was right again.. I knew it because she's not in the 2nd OP. Natsuki's Materialization is much much much cooler than Shizuru's and any other Meister.. Btw, who's that girl appear at the last picture of next eps preview? Mai???

2006-02-02, 19:25	Link #148
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	Where did the "ultimate" in the "ultimate black diamond" came from? Did they say so on screen? Because I can't see any words suggesting "ultimate" in the name of the GEM... It's Pitch Black, as far as the kanji's go... __________________

2006-02-02, 19:26	Link #149
ShinigamiRukia Ketchup Drinker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In my room. Age: 34	Spoiler: WHAT? ERESTINE IS GONE!?! Thats the worst thing that could happen, i'm depressed. Thats the worst thing to see right after you wake up __________________ Thanks mangalowres for the avatar ^^ Thanks vandakiara for the sig. ^^

2006-02-02, 18:43	Link #142
MattAlchemy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: At home...	Wow, Nina materializes into the new OP one. Erstin is gone, looks like MH where they all die and disappear. Many people are materializing. Thanks for Tomoe for helping out instead of destroying more in this episode!(As that's what I see in the screenies...) Yay. I can't wait to see this episode!

2006-02-02, 18:50	Link #143
Qbi Sannin Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I knew somethin was up with Erstin! Ha! Oh man oh man...Irina's been caught. She might die soon too :[ This is gonna be one depressing ride again! I can't wait!

2006-02-02, 18:54	Link #144
Juju n00bsicle et ULTIMA Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South America - for now - Isle girl 4 life	swoons and loves the sequential snaps Especially keying in on one significant ShizNat (hopefully) moment - After they'd obviously dematerialized and are back to back -- With Shizuru yelling at Natsuki to leave. The latter relinquishing....THEN that one keyed in screen of Tomoe being held by those black hooded goons....EEEEEE!!! ^^;; Ah me. Just speculating things on future happenings.... And yes...that woman coming out of the weapon Looks a helluva lot like Rena...

2006-02-02, 19:16	Link #146
Anime Adoru Member Join Date: Dec 2005	If your download hasn't finished yet and you just can't wait... You can thumb through the episode (full-size screenshots) here: http://www.adoru.com/mai-otome/ep17pic01.html But you might be spoiling your later RAW experience... In any case, please let me know if something doesn't work as expected.

2006-02-02, 19:35	Link #151
kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Bleh. I thought post some of my "random thoughts" more often. I had an idea that Smith might have some attack on the Otome system itself - pretty logical way to take the city. I also was wondering the last few days if Erstin might be being forced to be part of Schwartz "just because her grades were good" - and back on one of the older polls, I voted for Erstin to be first to die. As soon as Erstin starting showing "bad guy" vibes in this ep, I knew it was time for her to die. Didn't expect Arika and Nina to be trying to kill each other just yet. Oh well. Erstin = Nicola+Tolle, in terms of driving the main characters to attack each other. In a way though, Mashiro falls the most in this ep: goes from being just about to reveal her nice new castle and working towards becoming a better queen to her city being invaded and being told Arika's the true princess. Next week she seems to be wandering all alone through the desert. As a side-note, one thing I haven't seen discussed is that Nagi brought up his own personal army, to "drive away" Schwartz's drones - he's just set himself up to be the (fake) hero of the day. So Nagi has just taken over Wind Bloom and the people will be happy for it... As for next week: Natsuki seems alone mostly (Shizuru had to surrended to Schwartz in this ep), but meets up with Miyu. I wonder if Miyu will help Natsuki? Nothing showing of Arika, Sergay, Nina or Nagi... PS Arika - you should have punched out Smith. That way, he couldn't order Erstin around anymore. Or Sergay, you should have shot him.

2006-02-02, 19:35	Link #152
EnseiSong Clous Dolch Join Date: Dec 2005	Only thing I didn't get is this for this ep: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ng/Anime/0.jpg Isn't that Youuko's (sp? (Midori's sister)) shadow/figure/image?! Why is it there on that machine?

2006-02-02, 19:39	Link #154
Timeless Enigma Tsushima Masaki Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada	Interesting episode. The shit definitely hit the fan. Erstin dies (by Nina's hands) Nina materializes Arika's oji-sama is proven to be Sergay in front of Arika and Nina Rad's original name before he became a cyborg was indeed Reito Gutwrenching I tell you. So everyone who bet that Erstin would be the first to bite it and be the Otome with the black letter, give yourselves a pat on the back, hahaha. Now what the hell can happen now? Sergay's death is imminent, I can tell you that. Even though so many things were going on I can't give this a 10. I am definitely getting a "rushed" vibe. Maybe I'm just paranoid. The final shot in the preview looked more like Arika with her hair down... that's just my guess. It seems Miyu helps Natsuki out judging from the preview (not before doing a little dance first). __________________

2006-02-02, 19:42	Link #157
bluegarden Member Join Date: Dec 2005	nina and arika shouldn't be fighting each other, they should be teaming up and kill the one responsible! sergey!!

2006-02-02, 19:45	Link #159
kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	btw, another thing I'll say about this ep is that is sure had a lot of animation reuse. Kinda annoying since that aspect had been so good until now... but given how much new action and stuff they had, they just wouldn't have had the budget/time to do new animation for everything.