2013-05-05, 07:30 | Link #7001 |
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Btw, I do think that battleships like the Archangel and Minerva have a more powerful, more advanced radars onboard. So that's why I think they should be able to detect the Freedom while no one else can. I don't how else to explain ep 42.
But the fact that non NJC equiped mobile suits can't see the Freedom until it's in visual range is something I'll buy. I guess the made up science works out, it's convincing enough. (somewhat)
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2013-05-05, 08:57 | Link #7003 | |
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After all they didn't even know if what they detect was MS or not |
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2013-05-05, 10:55 | Link #7004 |
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Maybe MS are invisibile to radar until they start actively fighting. When Freedom makes it usual dramatic appearances that's usually the first shot it fires. Meanwhile in Destiny 32, Minerva detects Freedom there before they've just arrived since it's flying and shooting all over the place. Then again maybe it's magic was just weakening at that point since it notably didn't arrive unnoticed by Neo and Destroy radar. The magic Lacus Dust must have been wearing out by then.
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2013-05-05, 11:47 | Link #7005 | |
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2013-05-05, 13:41 | Link #7006 | |
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Every time Kira entered the battlefield there was a propper war going on and I guess it's hard to keep track of all the combatants on such a large warzone even with computer tracking suport. It should be noted that in episode 42 of Destiny, he re-entered the atmosphere and dropped down to combat zone directly from space, you could still see the S-Freedom glowing red. So even with the N-Jammer limiting the range of all the radars, The enormous heat signature created by atmospheric entry will be registered by every machine. In fact, he would have been visible to the naked eye. And in episode 22 and 28 he was probably flying at a high enough attitude where he can't be detected (wherever that is), but low enough to dive when he wanted to. And as for episode 35 of Seed, he didn't enter the combat zone directly from space like he did in episode 42 of Destiny. I guess he entered the upper layers of the atmosphere first from a different location and then stopped the Re-entry and kept altatude at lower mesospheric level using the HiMAT system until he reached the combat zone to perform a final drop down. By doing this he could enter Alaska from space without anyone noticing, except sarah Palin that is I guess this actually makes sense. maybe Fukuda got his shit right after all..
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2013-05-05, 17:50 | Link #7007 |
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The SF/IJ were noticed quickly for some reasons:
1. As mentioned battleships have better sensors appropriate for their roles 2. The Minerva was not in the middle of battle, also mentioned previously 3. Atmospheric reentry from two Un IDd machines, bot not as large as drop container, and way too fast to be missiles (which is probably impossible to shoot from space without burning up) or drop containers The Freedom in the Alaska battle got through because nobody was keeping an eye out for anything like it, it was the first MS shown to be capable of a full reentry without suffering any damage. On top of that it came right down into the middle of the fighting |
2013-05-05, 19:53 | Link #7008 | |
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2013-05-05, 20:54 | Link #7010 | |
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Technically the Strike didn't go through reentry as the Archangel caught it, but other than a melted shield, the Strike was undamaged. |
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2013-05-05, 21:02 | Link #7012 |
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The Strike began reentry incorrectly, as it was thrown backwards into the Earth's gravity well by the shuttle's explosion, so Kira couldn't control the re-entry process. The Strike's specifications otherwise did say it could handle re-entry, but like any other vehicle, it'd only be able to do so under the proper conditions.
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2013-05-05, 21:44 | Link #7014 |
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making plans is one thing but the fact that they relied on ORB to build it for them wasn't that impressive since ORB used coordinators which is probably why the technology was able to be created in the first place. all they really did was draft ideas and pretty much left it to someone else to make them a reality.
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2013-05-05, 21:56 | Link #7015 | |
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2013-05-05, 22:50 | Link #7016 | |
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2013-05-07, 03:43 | Link #7019 |
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Not to argue about who build the Gundams, but I think you got mixed-up a bit. IIRC (in SEED episode 1) Those MSs are planned to be used by Natural Pilots with OS meant for Natural (those Natural pilots saluted Mu in the beginning of episode 1 before going on their way). But when Kira was forced to pilot one of them (Strike), he said that the Natural OS is a mess and really not good to control a MS (this is from a coordinator’s POV), then he reprogram the OS to better suit him (a coordinator). Mind you that before stealing the GATs, Athrun and friends also need to reprogram the OS first before activating it just like Kira did (Nicol took a lot more time with it compared to everyone else IIRC).
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2013-05-07, 04:08 | Link #7020 | |
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Anyway, Obelisk ze Tormentor already explained it. Simply put, the OS was a mess because it was incomplete. It was still in development when ZAFT attacked Heliopolis. |
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