[Manga] Naruto Chapter 643 Discussion Thread

[ars89]

Seems like Sasuke was a little impressed with Naruto landing an attack with senjutsu. Like how the other Kurama was telling Minato to not blame himself. The father-son brofist was great. Wonder what Naruto is planning to do with the 4 bijudama.

Did Naruto just combine the kyuubi chakra with senjutsu at the end?

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Monster0

Why is everyone hung up on sasuke having a senjutsu ability?

noboby is saying he has to have sage mode. but it's been established that juubito can only be hurt by nature based attacks. so unless you think sasuke is done and will leave this fight up to naruto, then he must have some kind of nature based attack in mind to hurt juubito or to stop juubito's attacks

He represents the mind not the body.I doubt that kishi will let Sasuke become insignificant,his eyes( Itachis eyes )are the important thing for him.

he doesn't represent the mind. even if he did, naruto has been the smarter one in this fight anyway. the separation of the RS' abilities were eyes and body. not mind and body

So what's the difference between nature energy and what do they call the other stuff? So it seems chakra creates and manipulates matter and plasma ( in the case of fire and lightning )but it doesn't use energy?So maybe ninjutsu is like playing with clay and senjutsu/nature energy is like using the force.

sort of. basically ninjutsu is made from personal chakra, but senjutsu is made from natural chakra

[Midnight Commander]

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

Right now he does not have even one minute. Of course it would be interesting if he used Tsukiyomi on Naruto and then inside that genjutsu time chamber Naruto teaches him sage mode.

I think Sasuke may learn to use natures chakra without formal sage arts training. He has extensive experience using a small portion of Oro's senjutsu chakra and was quite proficient in controlling it. Now that he has a significant amount of juugo's cells, he should be able to absorb nature's energy naturally, and perhaps will be able to use it similar to how Hashirama has done, showing no animal traits. All he has to do is properly mix it with his own chakra; he already seems to be gaining a good grasp of the concept from Naruto's brief explanation.

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

Well he never began the actual training process.

Its quite unlikely Oro would come to the conclusion of the body he occupied at the time not being unable to handle sage-arts without actually trying to use sage arts in the first place : /
Once again, the manga states that once Oro learned of this technique, he tried to gain the ability immediately. I don't know what you believe he was doing while at the Ryuchidou, but the manga states he went there to train in the sage-arts. Though his body couldn't handle it at that time, he can at least still form senjutsu chaka --which of course he must have learned from training to how form it.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Souten no Seigyoku

I smell another Naruto power up coming as he merges both Kyuubi halves into one.

No, well eventually but that's not what's happening now. Minato and Naruto will just do the same thing they did two chapters ago on a large scale. Naruto is going to grab the entire army with ten of thousands of chakra arms or by repeating the mass chakra cloak feat and Minato will teleport them all out of the barrier.

[Xagzan]

Someone...please, anyone...Naruto...Minato...Hashirama...hell, even Sasuke, please...

Spoiler:

Shut Obito Up

My god, he's turned into Truth from Eureka 7 AO. Please, someone, just make the terrible whining and wangsting and generic bad guy taunting stoooop. Can't take the lameness anymore T_T

[Tchadnis]

New translations have just come out today , the scanalators jumped the gun on this one, using the leaked chapters from a Chinese website, which they then translated from Chinese to Japanese to English, and rushed the chapter out. According to the new translations, Obito was talking about ..

Spoiler for :

tomorrow is the birthday of Kushina and Minato death

.. Rin isn't include in that part

[james0246]

All I can think is that the army could really use Kabuto and Jugo right about now...

Also, and excuse me if this has already been stated, but could Senjutsu be what turned the original Jyuubi's body to stone (after it's chakra was split)?

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by Hunter

No, well eventually but that's not what's happening now. Minato and Naruto will just do the same thing they did two chapters ago on a large scale. Naruto is going to grab the entire army with ten of thousands of chakra arms or by repeating the mass chakra cloak feat and Minato will teleport them all out of the barrier.

That has a good chance to happen, but that would also show us how useless Shikamaru and the others are and also remove them from the battlefield as if they were some useless civilians. And while that is the reality most of the time, i think Kishimoto might not want to send us the message that the army was completely useless and had to be definitevely removed to a far away location for their own sake. In that case Shikamaru's little speech about "it doesn't matter how little but at the right time we can help, bla bla" would seem too obviously ridiculous. Of course later if the barrier falls they could still help, so i'm not sure if Kishimoto is not willing to make this mass humiliation in the next chapter

[b1gdawg]

Tobito's weakness is Senjutsu you say?

Time for Suigetsu to save the world.

[Monster0]

Originally Posted by itachi-san314

noboby is saying he has to have sage mode. but it's been established that juubito can only be hurt by nature based attacks. so unless you think sasuke is done and will leave this fight up to naruto, then he must have some kind of nature based attack in mind to hurt juubito or to stop juubito's attacks

he doesn't represent the mind. even if he did, naruto has been the smarter one in this fight anyway. the separation of the RS' abilities were eyes and body. not mind and body

sort of. basically ninjutsu is made from personal chakra, but senjutsu is made from natural chakra

Ocular powers,mind,ying it all means the same in the manga and has been referred to as such outside the sons of RS legend,it's all foggy and mixed up lore.But why nit pick about that, what is important is what you realized about the elements that ninjutsu uses.

[Bakaizer]

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

That has a good chance to happen, but that would also show us how useless Shikamaru and the others are and also remove them from the battlefield as if they were some useless civilians. And while that is the reality most of the time, i think Kishimoto might not want to send us the message that the army was completely useless and had to be definitevely removed to a far away location for their own sake. In that case Shikamaru's little speech about "it doesn't matter how little but at the right time we can help, bla bla" would seem too obviously ridiculous. Of course later if the barrier falls they could still help, so i'm not sure if Kishimoto is not willing to make this mass humiliation in the next chapter

do you know that Hashirama is actually requesting assistance of other ninja during the war, so the chances of of sending them out of the battlefield is slim, but because of the overwhelming power of juubito, what else could they do

[itachi-san314]

Originally Posted by Monster0

Ocular powers,mind,ying it all means the same in the manga and has been referred to as such outside the sons of RS legend,it's all foggy and mixed up lore.But why nit pick about that, what is important is what you realized about the elements that ninjutsu uses.

what are you talking about? if anyone has been gifted with the ultimate minds, it's the naras.

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by nikohowell

do you know that Hashirama is actually requesting assistance of other ninja during the war, so the chances of of sending them out of the battlefield is slim, but because of the overwhelming power of juubito, what else could they do

I don't get what you mean. My point was simply that if what Hunter said happens it would make the alliance army look extremely weak and lame, so because of that one reason it might not happen that way. Of course we know that the alliance is now merely spectating and hoping to not die, there were even panels of manga where they admitted that, but to send them away in this way might be to too much against Kishimoto's idea that they can still help (all that stuff about friendship and helping each other , blah blah, etc. that the author still tries show).

[Drkz]

Since the eight tails is split in two wouldn't that make him half as strong compared to if he was at his full strength? Thats a scary thought.

[Tchadnis]

Originally Posted by Drkz

Since the eight tails is split in two wouldn't that make him half as strong compared to if he was at his full strength? Thats a scary thought.

you mean the nine tails i believe ? and yes if you mean the nine tails he is half as strong since he only have half the chakra of his former self , so i would like to believe , since tailed beast are just techinacally , chakra that take on a form

[Kyero Fox]

Strongest Father and Son Combo? pppppfffffffffffffffff

Spoiler for Spoils:

[Poetic Justice]

Every chapter feels the same now...ZZZZ.

[Casshern]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Strongest Father and Son Combo? pppppfffffffffffffffff

Spoiler for Spoils:

Definitely the strongest facehugger impressions!

[Tchadnis]

new chapter is out 644 , naruto he is smarter then he look like after all ..

[Hunter]

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