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Old 2013-11-09, 10:59   Link #181
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Pretty much been lagging with the reviews so I'm giving the quick details for two previous episodes.

Episode 3:
The thing only commendable in this episode was the drama portrayed by the E-Pandora suffering under the harsh conditions that they've been experimented on. That, and the fact that Spencer made all the cover-ups on Mark IV being unstable, and delivering to the public media the short-lived, positive results. That was the battle fought between Gina and Satellizer, which the former succeeded to stand her ground on power terms with Satellizer though at the risk of perceived signs of Nova transformation.


Episode 4:
The fanservice virtually put me off when Charles fought the partially transformed Gina, because it messed with the tone of that event, that would have further repercussions for future episodes.
They got it right with Amelia pleading for Gina's life, and the latter attempting to reveal the failure Mark IV became. This is just a foreshadowing of things that will get out of control when this arc reaches it's climax.
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Old 2013-11-10, 07:16   Link #182
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Wow so intense NTR I ever seen, I hope next will be the last of this NTR arc, but maybe this event is needed for Kayuza not to be a pasive guy...., I mean he barely have screen time here...
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Old 2013-11-10, 11:46   Link #183
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Episode 5:
The drastic change that they altered was that if I recall correctly was that in the manga Elizabeth was able to file the report on the E-Pandora Project to her father successfully. Chevalier and Spencer then were forced to retailiate by framing the Mably family into a scandal due to Elizabeths' actions, and because part of that information was leaked to the public.

As it was obviously seen in the anime, Chevalier intercepted the file transmission before it could leave the facilities network, and Elizabeth got punished in the same fashion due to her acts deem traitorous.

However, this drastic changes alters the tone on the Chevaliers.

In the manga, Spencer and Chevalier retaliated against the Mably releasing the classified information on the E-Pandora failure out of defending their interests, to protect the investment that meant the E-Pandora research, and their image.

In the anime, they made it look that Chevalier and the people, like Spencer, controlling them behind-the-scenes practically own the entire world, and not even the most influential families in world affairs like the Mably or the el Bridget cannot oppose them either out in public or recklessly without paying the consequences.
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Old 2013-11-10, 12:23   Link #184
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Finally Kazuya getting appropriate screentime. He better kick some oni chan ass and stick up for his main squeeze.
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Old 2013-11-10, 14:03   Link #185
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Hey, do you guys remember when Kazuya had this weird power to freeze people in place?
YEAH, NEITHER DOES THE WRITER!!!
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Old 2013-11-11, 01:48   Link #186
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Hey, do you guys remember when Kazuya had this weird power to freeze people in place?
YEAH, NEITHER DOES THE WRITER!!!
Nice call.....I amlost forgot about that from the1st or 2nd episode.

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Old 2013-11-11, 20:15   Link #187
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i remember dropping the manga on this arc... i hated it that much.. i hope the next epi is the last for that arc, if they drag it on, i will prolly have to drop the anime too.
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Old 2013-11-14, 11:19   Link #188
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Despite how uncomfortable watching this episode, i'm kinda glad they kept this story in the anime.
Kudos for making the audience understand why Satellizer is traumatized about Louis.
While some might be put off with the abuse Louis was doing to Satellizer, at least it wasn't like the Cross Make Doujins. (Shudders with dread thinking about them)
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Old 2013-11-15, 12:31   Link #189
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Well, it's official. Kazuya took so many blows to the head that he literally forgot he has special powers. Or, he blew a fuse and can't freeze anything anymore. Or... and I'm just guessing here... HE'S A MORON!!!
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Old 2013-11-15, 21:42   Link #190
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ep.7

just about kazuya almost taste holly's sword here come satey to rescue give louis going like holly is uk elite pandora yet satey going defend kazuya yet for holly give see satey cause probs of louis life.

even holly try to help louis give he see her as not same as satey cue satey vs holly fight that holly go double-triple speed yet give manage get two scar on holly face yet satey got X mark on her back & louis is like you can't beat holly.

satey still keep on going for such as be free from louis, protect kazuya, stop e-pandora project ,etc cue wings of satey yet louis trying interfere then kazuya to rescue cue charge run clash & result holly go down.

louis going in shock to point that he went shock mood saw young satey being carry free into the light, in a graveyard, & chains are broken that realize the sins he cause so fall down to drown the sins.

yet holly to rescue louis yet make him realize good time with holly yet both ok & louis now on defrost mode with want to atone for his sins.

now that all good oh rana called in mention going on alaska so satey & kazuya get on private plane from louis back to alaska & speak of alaska dr.ohara check in on project that beyond e-pandora level.
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Old 2013-11-16, 17:11   Link #191
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No matter what altercations they make to the anime version, Holly will forever be too good for Louis.
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Old 2013-11-16, 17:42   Link #192
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I was hoping Satellizer will file a complaint against her brother for rape ... >_>

Louis: "That was awesome.."
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Old 2013-11-17, 10:20   Link #193
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i forgot the purpose of this arc, I thought Season 1 already shown that louis abused Satellizer hard. Then now Satellizer went back home and get more rape, in the end no progress to the story....
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Old 2013-11-17, 10:58   Link #194
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This arc could have been great, but the execution was pretty bad. As mentioned earlier Satellizer motivations makes no sense. Kazuya's selective amnesia was annoying too. The family's ignorance/inactivity was too convenient. But my biggest problem was Rose... OK I can buy it being loyal to Luis after being raped, but blaming Satellizer for it was on the basis that she was a better rape victim then her and feeling jealous about it was... argh!!! words just fail to describe how idiotic it was... the only explanation is that the mangaka couldn't find something out to conclude the arc, got drunk and plagiarized some lame doujinshi to finish the arc. Also the whole redemption by attempting suicide in the last 5 minutes of the episode was equally lame and corny.
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Old 2013-11-17, 11:39   Link #195
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Ultra possessive Yandere rapist brother turns into a good guy just like that?

The writing has never been this series' strong suit, but wow.
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Old 2013-11-17, 17:27   Link #196
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This arc could have been great, but the execution was pretty bad. As mentioned earlier Satellizer motivations makes no sense. Kazuya's selective amnesia was annoying too. The family's ignorance/inactivity was too convenient. But my biggest problem was Rose... OK I can buy it being loyal to Luis after being raped, but blaming Satellizer for it was on the basis that she was a better rape victim then her and feeling jealous about it was... argh!!! words just fail to describe how idiotic it was... the only explanation is that the mangaka couldn't find something out to conclude the arc, got drunk and plagiarized some lame doujinshi to finish the arc. Also the whole redemption by attempting suicide in the last 5 minutes of the episode was equally lame and corny.
While I agree with most of what you said, I am pretty sure Luis didn't rape Satalli. He did physically and sexually abuse her. He made references to how a brother and sister can't be together and also lamenting over why Satalli was born his sister. Rose on the other hand was raped.

I do completely agree with you on the family's ignorance. I literally rolled my eyes at her father's scene where he says he missed her. The whole scenario was weakly thought out and executed.
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Old 2013-11-17, 17:50   Link #197
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Episodes 6 & 7:

More than damage to this arc, virtually the Bali arc got trimmed to almost nothingness.

They've fixed everything between Satellizer and Louis is just one go and expect from the audience to feel sorry for what Louise did too much in one episode.

Really, such nonsense!!

They changed the course of events from the manga in order to allot everything to the Alaska arc for this season. Basically, the El Bridget are going to expose into the public what the Mably's failed at: the E-Pandora project whole fiasco.

I'm not going to spoil the whole Bali arc to everyone out there for the simple fact that almost it doesn't exists entirely in the anime.

From the manga:
1. The Bali arc happens before the Alaska arc.
2. Satellizer got an invitation letter from Violet to come to the resort hotel at Bali own by the El Bridget, hence, Violet expected her little sister to come.
3. As I recalled, the Bali Hotel Resort in the manga wasn't anything like depicted visually in the anime.

And, that's it in order for me to spare spoilers to the rest of the newcomers.

Oh, please, let them make it right for the rest of the Alaska arc.
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Old 2013-11-17, 19:47   Link #198
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I imagine if they put this arc in ep 1 & 2, people will drop this anime right on the spot...
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Old 2013-11-17, 20:19   Link #199
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Ultra possessive Yandere rapist brother turns into a good guy just like that?

The writing has never been this series' strong suit, but wow.
That's half the problem, the other half is how did we get from this...



... to this...



... after a failed BASE jump

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I imagine if they put this arc in ep 1 & 2, people will drop this anime right on the spot...
Let's get one thing clear, the theme of the arc was extremely interesting, but the execution (in the anime for which I can speak) was really bad.

Another very annoying thing is that when it comes to pornographic nudity (pornographic, as in unrelated to the plot) the anime is very straightforward, but everytime it has to depict a serious situation it chickens out resorting to politically correct tastefulness like NoitaminA, whether it is or not sex-related.

Now back on the rape/sexual-abuse, yes they are different, but their consequences outside a court marginally so... and if we want to become extra technical, Luis did not rape neither Satellizer nor Rose, but he sexually and physically abused the former, and physically the later. All these in the anime at least, I can always hope that the manga did a better job.
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Old 2013-11-18, 09:04   Link #200
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I don't really mind the shift from lunatic to enlightened, it's kinda part of Louis' weirdness I guess. Still I wish Holly got something in return for being hurt so much both mentally and physically. At least Satella has Kazuya to forget about Louis. Holly has... nothing if you consider Louis a good-for-nothing. lol Well, Holly's screen time is probably screwed anyway. I need to stop liking characters so easily. I'll save those tasty eye-catches of Holly x Satella as a keepsake or something.
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