Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by Zoks

Anyways, Tatsuya is the Strategist for the entire event. Strategists are responsible for coming up with the magic used, the technicians are just responsible for fine-tuning it.

The person in charge is most likely responsible for selecting the participants for the contests as well as choosing the technicians for CAD tuning.

It's rare for an engineer to issue Activation Sequences.
With the exception of Tatsuya, who plans out the Activation Sequence lineup himself, normally engineers install Sequences based on the wish of the competitors.

For a technician to choose the spell lineup is an exception, not the norm.

[Gundamx]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Are the branch families counted as part of the Yotsuba clan, or are they their own Families?

Yotsuba don't have main Family > strongest person become clan leader
(like how that assassinate in volume 10~> his grandfather was former clan head)

[Zoks]

Originally Posted by Awrya

The person in charge is most likely responsible for selecting the participants for the contests as well as choosing the technicians for CAD tuning.

For a technician to choose the spell lineup is an exception, not the norm.

"Suzune bore overall responsibility for the operations staff (although there are only four people in that capacity), but individual strategic planning followed division of labor. The greatest responsibility was divided, with male staff going over strategies for the men's matches and female staff going over strategies for the women's matches.

Today's competition was the women's Speed Shooting contest, under the charge of Suzune.

—But, this was an event which didn't allow for fine strategies in the first place, being largely dependent on technical ability. It wouldn't be far off the mark to even say brute force. Any staff involvement would merely detail the selection of magic to match the characteristics of the competitor, and the setting of the CAD to suit, but...

...this was a region which overlapped the work of the technical staff."

Volume 4, chapter 8.

The Strategists are responsible for picking the overall magic use. They may not be as involved as the exact plans for each match, but the general strategies go through the Strategy staff. Tatsuya isn't likely to fine-tune everyone's CADs, but he is going to be responsible for the strategies and he will be supervising everybody's work. Kind of like what he did with Honoka in Battle Board.

[Waxman]

Do you really consider Tatsuya someone who on his own take that responsability, i believe its more likely he would submit at his sister wish to help her as her Technician (and of the others competitors they assign him to as well as tactician of any of his friend who might compete) but he will run away of any other thing and without Mayumi, Katsuto and Mari who would convince to take Suzunes place?

[Zoks]

Originally Posted by Waxman

Do you really consider Tatsuya someone who on his own take that responsability, i believe its more likely he would submit at his sister wish to help her as her Technician (and of the others competitors they assign him to as well as tactician of any of his friend who might compete) but he will run away of any other thing and without Mayumi, Katsuto and Mari who would convince to take Suzunes place?

There is already a spoiler that came out saying Tatsuya will be the Strategist.

[Waxman]

Ok, in that case yes, Ayako is in a tigh spot.
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Still, i can't quite picture that scene. Tats telling Morisaki, Shippuo and others like them what they're supposed to do... I wanna se how they convinced Tatsuya to accept.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Waxman

Ok, in that case yes, Ayako is in a tigh spot.
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Still, i can't quite picture that scene. Tats telling Morisaki, Shippuo and others like them what they're supposed to do... I wanna se how they convinced Tatsuya to accept.

Are we sure he'll be coaching the guys too?

[NeutralZero]

In the previous one, Tatsuya was the tactician for the girls and it lead them to victory...
will the boys even allow that? Allow a weed to coach them?

[Waxman]

If he is given Suzune's position theyll have to, although many of them might not listen to him, do things their way and lose.

[Zoks]

I think it might be more of a decision from up top to force them to agree. All of the student leadership are favorable towards Tatsuya. Besides, its not like he has no allies in those areas. Tomitsuka respecting Tatsuya shows that it isn't uniform hatred on the male side towards him, and Mikihiko being in Course 1 now might get him some support.

[NeutralZero]

That may be the case but the male side esp the ones former 1st year have some ego problem.
Didn't they secretly route Tatsuya and the others lose in the monolith finals?

[Verisimilitude]

Well, this year, doesn't he have a reason to go because of that letter he received? If Miyuki is competing again, he would definitely come along in order to ensure her safety.

[Sylux]

Well, this year, doesn't he have a reason to go because of that letter he received? If Miyuki is competing again, he would definitely come along in order to ensure her safety

What was written in that letter?

[nosaer]

Originally Posted by NeutralZero

In the previous one, Tatsuya was the tactician for the girls and it lead them to victory...
will the boys even allow that? Allow a weed to coach them?

In year 2 there is a new Magic Engineering department that was created because of Tatsuya, and he is a part of it. He is no longer a weed technically (his uniform now bears the 8 petal flower surrounded by a cog, check the pics). and there has also been a spoiler that stated that he was made the lead strategist for the entire competition (that includes the guys and girls).

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Sylux

What was written in that letter?

The new event and how the changes in the competition was part of some conspiracy.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by nosaer

In year 2 there is a new Magic Engineering department that was created because of Tatsuya, and he is a part of it. He is no longer a weed technically (his uniform now bears the 8 petal flower surrounded by a cog, check the pics). and there has also been a spoiler that stated that he was made the lead strategist for the entire competition (that includes the guys and girls).

he was put in charge of all the strategies ? I only remember the spoiler talking about how there is a new event and that someone is plotting something for the 9 schools competition.

[Makall]

After reading up to Vol 11, I have a few questions...

1) So what the hell happened to Ichijou Masaki? It just talked about him entering China Town with Zhou and that was it...

2) What happened to that precious gem/stone that Tatsuya's step mom gave him? That whole plot point seems to have been ignored.

3) Why are the JSDF not helping Tatsuya, who is being targeted for abduction by a foreign super power? Tatsuya, their strongest WMD Magician...

4) Why does that one stupid ass butler have such intense hatred for Tatsuya? Not even Maya, Hayama or Kuroba Papa treats Tatsuya like that (even though that butler got badly owned). The butler is way out of line and too emotional.

5) So from what I can understand, the Shiba father is a failure of a magician, a failure of a father, and a failure of a husband. He does not love Miya and only married for money (his company being financed by Yotsuba). Now the real question is... why the hell would Miya as a Yotsuba marry such a failure that has neither talent in magic, wealth, or loves her? This boggles the mind.

6) Clearly Tatsuya should be the next head of Yotsuba if raw firepower is necessary for the position. He also has the intelligence, knowledge/expertise, personality, and connections.

Miyuki seems to be far far too dependent on others (as well as lacks the necessary knowledge, connections, intelligence gathering) to actually lead a clan of dangerous and shady individuals.

The limited magic thing seems like a stupid excuse seeing as 99% of the magicians in this story have 1 or 2 specialized abilities that they are good at. So Tatsuya can't use generic magic... meaning what exactly? All the good magicians in this series has specialized magic.

Making Miyuki the next head as hostage doesn't make much sense either. If they don't want Tatsuya be the next head, I think he'd be happier if they just left him alone. If they made Miyuki the next head, Tatsuya would just be the shadow head making all the decisions for her. He could destroy the Yotsuba at any time, either before or after Miyuki becomes head.

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Makall

4) Why does that one stupid ass butler have such intense hatred for Tatsuya? Not even Maya, Hayama or Kuroba Papa treats Tatsuya like that (even though that butler got badly owned). The butler is way out of line and too emotional.

Aoki doesn't know tatsuya can decompose and reconstruct eidos.
They only know tatsuya can't use any magic.
Also thanks to the artificial MCA so tatsuya can use lesser magic and be a false magician.

No one know his decomposition but maya, hayama, and miyuki.

Originally Posted by Makall

Making Miyuki the next head as hostage doesn't make much sense either. If they don't want Tatsuya be the next head, I think he'd be happier if they just left him alone. If they made Miyuki the next head, Tatsuya would just be the shadow head making all the decisions for her. He could destroy the Yotsuba at any time, either before or after Miyuki becomes head.

Yeah don't make sense. Tatsuya could destroy and kill everyone. He could be the Prime minister of japan too.

[Jirachier]

2) If you're referring to the Magmanta I don't really remember if he had given it back or not, but either way it wasn't something that can be analyzed in a few days, it's an OOpart that no technology could actually understand it, only Tatsuya can but it's still very difficult and time consuming.

3) tbh the author didn't really give any satisfying reason, from what I undersand just an arc ago Maya told Kazama to keep his distance from Tatsuya for now, so maybe that's why they did not intervene.

4) because he is stupid and hot blooded, and most importantly he has no idea of what Tatsuya can do.

5) the father oft he Shiba siblings was born with an extraordinary amount of psions, and at the time it was considered a very valuable trait to have in a magician and the Yotsuba thought that he was going to become even stronger with time and that is why Miya married him, but years passed and he was still weak..

6) If it wasn't for their subjective idea that a magician that cannot alter the eidos is not a true magician then Tatsuya would've definitely gotten the position, unfortunately that is how they see him not to mention that almost no one in the clan besides Maya and her butler knows about Tatsuya's true abilities, if they knew I believe that maybe a few of them might actually change their mind and support Tatsuya becoming the next head, I don't think this will happen though.

as for Miyuki, she is definitely clan heir material, she doesn't have connections and such but that is the same for Masaki I think, they are still not heads of their clan and so they aren't taking on difficult missions, not to mention how the Yotsuba keep their powerful members identities hidden so she can't just go around doing stuff for the clan, the reason you see her as incompetent is probably because you're comparing her to Tatsuya, who is an exception to everything in the mahouka world.

Also you need to understand that all these decisions being made in regard to Tatsuya and Miyuki are mostly done by Maya herself, the rest of the clan isn't aware of her reasons for doing any of this. She made Miyuki the next heir so that Tatsuya does not go and attack the clan in the future and as for letting him go, Maya knows how extremely powerful and valuable he is and that it is better to keep him close than letting him go.

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

Also you need to understand that all these decisions being made in regard to Tatsuya and Miyuki are mostly done by Maya herself, the rest of the clan isn't aware of her reasons for doing any of this. She made Miyuki the next heir so that Tatsuya does not go and attack the clan in the future and as for letting him go, Maya knows how extremely powerful and valuable he is and that it is better to keep him close than letting him go.

Maya hate tatsuya because he can't use true magic, she made tatsuya feel miserable.
The yotsuba also tortured him in training and Maya treated him very bad compare to miyuki.

Even he can't use true magic, at least she can treat him as nephew.