2013-12-01, 23:27 | Link #9063 |
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lancelot is a guy but ended up being a girl in this story =/
but what i find weird is that kote was summoned by artio instead of summoning her son .. and kote is supposed to follow this god .. so is that guy stronger that kote :? or im i confused ?
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2013-12-02, 00:08 | Link #9064 | |
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KotE IS Artio's son, in terms of role. They're not actual mother and children, but he has the status of her son in the in-universe myth. That Wind God Guy (for now, I'm calling him MAya since Aya's the Wind God Girl) is just an ally of Artio. KotE's job when summoned is to fight all the Campiones, no matter who the summoner is, so Artio didn't control him, he just happen to have that one obligation and Artio needed him for that too.
Huh? No, I suggested that it was the ancient Bear God, the oldest worships recorded in humanity. Someone else also suggested Bartraz and Prometheus. Actually, I think I also suggested the Archangel Michael. Quote:
Hm, can we get all of the appendix notes translated here or on BT? Would really appreciate them.
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2013-12-02, 02:37 | Link #9065 |
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My idea for KotE and the wind god - Gilgamesh and his buddy, Enkidu. Gilgamesh has a lot of parallels with various mythologies, and since the wind god was described as KotE's right hand man, Enkidu matches, though I'm not sure exactly how that explains the wind aspect.
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2013-12-02, 03:01 | Link #9066 |
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Enkidu was made of mud, not wind. I don't really think it's Gilgamesh, his traits doesn't really match that of KotE. There are also many other heroes and Gods called Kings too, in fact, in the Golden Bough it's pretty much said that lots of Sun Gods symbolizes Kings, this isn't mentioning the Sky Gods and all the other Kings who fancied themselves as Gods too. True, his story was called "Surpassing All Other Kings" but I don't think that's enough reason KotE.
It's entirely possible and all, but the reasoning is weak.
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2013-12-02, 03:38 | Link #9067 |
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Like I earlier said about Enkidu, I'm not sure how he exactly relates to the wind aspect. The best I can come up with is that he did take out Humbaba with Gilgamesh using another god's wind.
And for argument's sake, some various traits Gilgamesh has with KotE - 1) One of his most common parallels is with the Greek hero Heracles, who happened to go on a certain trip for a golden fleece. Circe suggested looking at the Argonauts for information concerning KotE. 2) Another common parallel is with a certain king of England whose name derives from a bear, Arthur. 3) The Epic of Gilgamesh happens to be one of the earliest surviving works of literature, and could be considered the granddaddy of all hero epics. That kind of rings a bell with Godou's thoughts about KotE : "It was probably the story of the 'King of the End' that served as the prototype myth for this sort of 'legendary hero's saga'," (epilogue of Volume 15). 4) Enkidu was considered the exact opposite of Gilgamesh, being wild, whereas Gilgamesh was cultured (well, that's according to Wikipedia, which can be taken with a grain of salt). KotE spoke calmly, etc. Okay, so I may be fitting pieces of the legend of Gilgamesh into what KotE is. |
2013-12-02, 03:58 | Link #9068 |
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Arthur was just the mutated story of Artos that Guinevere made up. With Argonauts, it might also be Argo, Jason, and Theseus too. The story of Gilgamesh was pretty unique, I don't remember any other story that's quite the same. That said, he had no element of sword in his story, both figuratively and literally. Enkidu wasn't exactly wild. Well, he was until Shamhat seduced him, then he became the voice of reason to Gilgamesh. If anything, it's Gilgamesh who's wild, though he got some character developments later on. While he's one of the eldest hero, that doesn't make him automatically the prototype of all hero; that would be Nasu's Gilgamesh.
Again, possible, but the reasoning is still flimsy.
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2013-12-02, 04:08 | Link #9069 |
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Yeah, the weapon aspect is my biggest drawback, for both KotE and the wind god. I wish I could provide some type of evidence that could support my theory, but ...
As to reasoning being flimsy, this is Campione! Some of the aspects of what the gods are throughout the series is rather flimsy. I'm sure once the identity of the KotE is given, there'll be quite a few "huh?" moments. Last edited by teejmo; 2013-12-02 at 04:18. |
2013-12-03, 12:16 | Link #9074 | |
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I'd say, the Artos arc will take at least 3-5 more volumes, then we will either get a new revelation for the story to continue more or start heading towards the ending. Most likely it would take two more arcs after Artos though. At the least, that is. With that said, I do think that the series has been going for very long. I wish if it was more to the point and shorter. Then having full anime like Shana and Toradora would have been possible. Though it can be annoying how unnecessarily slow and long the story could be sometimes. Instead of making me saying "About time," it's instead making me ask "Just how long this will run?", "Will it be longer than To Aru Majutsu no Index?", and "Will we get a satisfying ending?" The last one because of how many long-running series to not have a satisfying ending (anti-climatic due to length and all) and Arc Fatigue. Can't forget about that last one. Dunno where zzhk found it but it's either on some other forum or a raw of the notes. And yest, there are infos for the other seven Campiones of the present time, though Aisha's a bit blurry in detail due to spoiler reasons.
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2013-12-03, 12:45 | Link #9075 |
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pls put new info here, even if in spoiler. Don't know where to find it--> found them, they are on the campionewikia.
aniway i wonder if after the king of the end we will get a prequel about the first campiones instead of more about godou 's adventures. |
2013-12-04, 02:38 | Link #9076 |
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Just wondering did any of you think that the white sword that godou that may obtain be actually be the ArrowHead that stand as equal with Divine Sword of Salvation.
Edit. Before more we may first see the King's ArrowHead
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2013-12-04, 03:44 | Link #9077 |
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...what? Anyway, er, dude, arrow. Sword. There's, like, nothing common in that, except in Fate/stay night. Honestly, if you ask me, I think it might be Godou defeating King of the End or him dying, then giving Divine Sword of Salvation to Godou for him to use in the next arc. Just like, you know, what happened with Ame no Murakumo no Tsurugi. The Heretic God got defeated, and then stayed dormant and helpful inside the sword while Godou uses it. Or he just died but was able to give it to Godou anyway. I think it's the first one.
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2013-12-04, 04:45 | Link #9078 |
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So, what is the message?"
"Yes, King Perseus, whom you recall, was recently slain in preparation for when the 'King's Arrowhead' shall enter the battlefield. Please be extra careful." "Perseus slain!?" "Indeed. The 'Arrowhead' is the divine child's blade which stands equal to the Divine Sword of Salvation. A blade that shall one day tear you apart and bring forth destruction to the land. For the sake of the soon impending day of battle, please bear this firmly in mind." The princess bowed her head deeply. Godou expressed understanding. Indeed, this should be a warning of the "King of the End," the strongest [Steel]. "Very well, I will try my best to remember this, to suddenly beware of a guy whom I've never even seen before. But then again, won't I forget everything in the end once I wake from the dream, just as always?" Godou's question for confirmation caused the princess to suddenly smile and answer cheerfully. "Please rest assured. Even if you were to forget the words, your ferocious soul shall never forget any precautions related to battle—Moreover, this applies even more to Kusanagi-sama's words compared to mine." "So this is really a warning?" "No, you are simply being informed of a premonition. However, perhaps something unexpected may happen?" At some point in time, the Princess of Glass had started gazing gently at Godou. Her word choice also shifted subtly, showing slightly more affection. "The inevitable encounter with the arriving 'Arrowhead' will undoubtedly prove to be a threat. However, ill fate is not everything it entails. Although it is not a certain goddess' box, when all disasters are over, hope will surely appear." "Hope huh." Watching Godou's face as he muttered to himself, the princess nodded. "Fufu, among all god-slayers in history, your attitude towards power is especially free and unfettered. Perhaps because of that, you might obtain power instead. I—once known in the past as... The Goddess' Daughter, pray for your victorious fortune in battle, Kusanagi-sama!" This is where my statement originated. Clearly stated that the arrowhead and the divine sword of salvation are two different blade and the princess told him that he may obtain this as his power maybe godou simply misunderstood it as a warning about k.o.t.e but it may be another god entirely. K.o.t.e need essences of the earth or earth goodness not steel god power then where did perseus, wukong and lancy power go to?
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2013-12-04, 04:53 | Link #9079 |
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I'm more inclined to Divine Sword of Salvation. True, it has some weight, but it fits the pattern more. In addition to DSoS of being actually white. But eh, maybe, who knows? Though there's always the argument that Godou will gain "A white one to match the black blade." We don't know what white weapon/armament it will be. Though DSoS kind of matched Murakumo better, what's with both having similar skills and aspects in certain parts.
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