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Old 2014-01-06, 00:43   Link #50061
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The frame is flawed, the government want to test still theoretical ability in an untested platform.

So government made it, Tabane completed it... while adding even more flaws.
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Old 2014-01-06, 00:59   Link #50062
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Then, how much could it be self-fixed? After all, that is one of the basic requirement for every setinel existance like Core.

And as I see it, stats of personal IS always change. So would it be that the development of 2nd and 3rd generation are just speed-it-up by human?
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Old 2014-01-06, 01:23   Link #50063
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*laughs at IS firepower*

For less than the price of an IS, you can buy 100 cruise missles, 10 tanks, and a b52 bomber loaded with 50 200 pound JDAM bombs.
It's just a waste of money.

If you want to win against an IS, get a Gundam.

...

A random thought.
Why is it that there are so many nations that are keen on getting data on Byakushiki? Is Akatsubaki's existence still unknown outside ISA?
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Old 2014-01-06, 02:05   Link #50064
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Then, how much could it be self-fixed? After all, that is one of the basic requirement for every setinel existance like Core.
Nope

I.S. are closer to real robot than super robot, they can't self debug and entirely dependent on human. Notice how ByakuShiki's energy issue get even worse, and Gospel (contrary to anime depiction) never get faster than it is before.

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And as I see it, stats of personal IS always change. So would it be that the development of 2nd and 3rd generation are just speed-it-up by human?
See above

Without human intervention, core can only grow, never change.
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A random thought.
Why is it that there are so many nations that are keen on getting data on Byakushiki? Is Akatsubaki's existence still unknown outside ISA?
Because of Tabane's precious touch
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Old 2014-01-06, 02:44   Link #50065
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So basically, a Core is like a e-book, am I correct? Can do grammar check, can record the data and giving prediction with it, but nothing more?
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Old 2014-01-06, 03:16   Link #50066
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You got it backwards

Think of the core as evolving software and firmware

core can optimize an I.S. growth and development, but it can only go so far if the base hardware is crap.

You also need to 'tune' it to avoid bug.
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Old 2014-01-06, 04:41   Link #50067
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Say, what would happen if a student exceed in all area except IS? Like someone doesn't want to have a job relates to IS, but entered the school because of its quality and name?
Also, in the case of a unit that is the duplicate of Gundam Blossom (but fixed the flaw), how much will you rate it with Blue Tear?

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Old 2014-01-06, 07:18   Link #50068
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Just found another potential x-over material with IS: Nobunaga the Fool
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Old 2014-01-06, 07:33   Link #50069
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The IS is actually like a tree. It will grow and it will develop. But that is for otimization. Human intervention is to rune the bush so it grows as intended. Kind of like bonsai. The greatest flw of IS is ironically its greatest strength. The ability to adapt and evolve in an unchecked pace.
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Old 2014-01-06, 07:34   Link #50070
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Say, what would happen if a student exceed in all area except IS? Like someone doesn't want to have a job relates to IS, but entered the school because of its quality and name?
Plenty of them are barely qualified.

Also, it's already stated that I.S.A. graduates will get instantly scouted for further education or career advancement program
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Also, in the case of a unit that is the duplicate of Gundam Blossom (but fixed the flaw), how much will you rate it with Blue Tear?
Not familiar with it
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Old 2014-01-06, 07:38   Link #50071
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Makes me wonder, what career will the characters pursue after graduating from ISA?
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Old 2014-01-06, 07:41   Link #50072
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Pro-IS pilots most likely. Worshipped as rockstars/star athletes. Possibly idol industry. Military isn't far off. Being inducted into scholarly research puruits isn't impossible either.
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Old 2014-01-06, 08:18   Link #50073
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Pro-IS pilots most likely. Worshipped as rockstars/star athletes. Possibly idol industry. Military isn't far off. Being inducted into scholarly research puruits isn't impossible either.
It is working as intended Seriously
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Old 2014-01-06, 08:47   Link #50074
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And Ichika?

No one know! But hey, the idea of a Super Harem Combo - Religious and Culinary Tourism Conglometer isn't too far stretched.

Nah! Knowing him, a test-pilot for space project is quite possible. His IS is made for it, plus, you've got to admit, he has been testing to the limit by the girls.

Somehow, I find myself motivated to write an Gundam AGE crossover. The AGE system could be considered to be a Core, at least.
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Old 2014-01-06, 08:50   Link #50075
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I think Meister is doing something along that line as well.
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Old 2014-01-06, 09:08   Link #50076
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Also, I was estimating the price of an IS at 3/4 of a billion dollars. And if youre talking about me, im not doing an x over.
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Old 2014-01-06, 09:11   Link #50077
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And if youre talking about me, im not doing an x over.
Nonono, the other Meister.
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Old 2014-01-06, 09:24   Link #50078
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meisterbabylon to be precise

Also, people still can't agree how much they precisely cost, since how much feat dictated by the I.S. core also rather vague. So it's up to writer's own judgment and opinions.
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Old 2014-01-06, 09:26   Link #50079
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No matter what though, it's clear that the benefits outweigh the costs. Considering what WK did. One hell of an exhibition if I ever saw one.
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Old 2014-01-06, 09:43   Link #50080
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Say, anyone know about Phantom Zone in Superman? How about a Core as prison for the bad guys, but one day, all of these evil brains found a way to manipulate the Core. In short, a truly Devil avatar.
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