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blottyparchment · 2014-01-16, 11:20

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Originally Posted by kira22

at the end of the 15th episode Tsumugu Chisaki what he says at the door?

I meant to reply to you, so I edited my post above.

Cloudedmind · 2014-01-16, 11:45

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Originally Posted by orion

Says who? In what country?

Also Miuna and Hikari are the same age.

Not to mention 19 year olds are still considered minors in Japan. You're not a legal adult until your 20. They may or may not have laws about age differences between minors being together but I have no idea. (Not saying anything's going to happen either way.)

Meltyred · 2014-01-16, 11:51

Seems like Uroko is keeping everything away from the town at the moment, as Hikari was not able to even swim near it.
Hikari's breakdown was amazing, good to know he can rely on Tsumubro enough to confess his fears instantly.
Wonder what happens to Hikari when it comes to education now.. go back to same school, or....

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

Not to mention 19 year olds are still considered minors in Japan. You're not a legal adult until your 20. They may or may not have laws about age differences between minors being together but I have no idea. (Not saying anything's going to happen either way.)

Japan will become 21 years of age and older
Hikari is still the medium, Chisaki the university,
I seem to mother and child
if it does not happen anything on between tsugumu and Chisaki this anime will be a disappointment ...

Kazu-kun · 2014-01-16, 12:10

It seems Chisaki does have some unresolved feelings for Hikari after all. That's the only way I can interpret her guilty look at the end at the very least.

Haak · 2014-01-16, 12:14

Episode 15

That was a lot more lighthearted than I expected. I thought we were in for some major drama but most of it was surprisingly subdued with only occassional small bursts. For someone who witnessed his childhood crush get dragged into the seabed and wake up with everything being 5 years later, he's handled it impressively well. Just as well since there doesn't seem to be psychiatrists in this anime either (although apparently there are brain surgeons).

hai_san · 2014-01-16, 12:20

good things:

Hikari is back.
Tsumugu finally showing some "emotions".

bad thing:

Hikari and Chisaki meeting last like 30s?...

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 12:21

does not make sense if Chisaki 5 years has not developed any feelings for Tsumugu, I do not understand why he did not tell the truth
perhaps not to hurt him, maybe at the end Tsumugu decide to go back to town, and then realize if Chisaki of being in love.
hikari and Chisaki as a couple are not beautiful, they seem to mother and child, I did not come to say that age does not matter, because it does not make sense, then, the character of Tsumugu does not make sense in all this story.

Kazu-kun · 2014-01-16, 12:27

^ This is Okada we're talking about. Things don't have to make sense.

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 12:29

Chisaki for you at the end with who shall stand?

Kanon · 2014-01-16, 12:31

Hikari's growth since the beginning of the series is astounding. He was naturally scared, confused and depressed by the changes he witnessed, but he quickly resolved to accept and embrace them. That's not something the old Hikari could have done, he would have been angry and would have lashed out at everybody, digging a deeper hole for himself. The current Hikari is impressively mature. His reunion with Chisaki was beautifully done. He chose exactly the right words to say to her and erased most of her worries in a flash.

Another well done scene was the one where Tsumugu walked in on Chisaki changing. It was unusually subdued and mature for something coming out of an Okada anime. This small scene alone was enough to convey how deeply Tsumugu cares for Chisaki. I really hope these two will end up together.

I liked how Miuna handled Hikari's return. To her, it's like a dream come true. The person she has loved all these years is back and is now the same age as her. However, she knows Hikari has his own issues to deal with and is trying her best to understand and support him. She's very considerate and sensitive. I can't wait to see how her relationship with Hikari will develop. Right now, he probably still sees her as "little Miuna" but there's no way he'll be able to remain indifferent to her charms for long. I haven't rooted for a girl so much in a long time. If she loses to Manaka, I'm going to be sad.

The preview for the next episode was interesting. Sounds like Sayu is frustrated Kaname hasn't returned. I knew she wasn't over him.

orion · 2014-01-16, 12:34

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Originally Posted by kira22

does not make sense if Chisaki 5 years has not developed any feelings for Tsumugu, I do not understand why he did not tell the truth
perhaps not to hurt him, maybe at the end Tsumugu decide to go back to town, and then realize if Chisaki of being in love.
hikari and Chisaki as a couple are not beautiful, they seem to mother and child, I did not come to say that age does not matter, because it does not make sense, then, the character of Tsumugu does not make sense in all this story.

14 yo and 19 yo can not be mother and child. It's only a 5 year age difference.

People can live in the same dwelling without developing romantic feelings for each other. Tsumugu may just have been a brother to her or a possible substitute until Hikari woke up. Things like that do happen.

Kazu-kun · 2014-01-16, 12:35

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Originally Posted by kira22

Chisaki for you at the end with who shall stand?

I don't do predictions, especially not about Okada shows.

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 12:37

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

^ This is Okada we're talking about. Things don't have to make sense.

what does, there must be a logical thread, and then hikari has never been in love with Chisaki
that lie in Chisaki tsugumu makes sense, maybe she does not want to hurt him, or he is afraid of losing him.

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

I don't do predictions, especially not about Okada shows.

say that okada ago souls without a logical thread, I do not think, toradora everyone knew how did it go, the same thing for vampire knight, Aquarion evol, as well
instead all you're saying is nonsense.

araragi92 · 2014-01-16, 12:44

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Originally Posted by kira22

Chisaki for you at the end with who shall stand?

Okada makes it so obvious (Chisaki and Tsugumu) that they will not end up together, this author likes to surprise the readers.

Fjoergyn · 2014-01-16, 12:46

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Originally Posted by kira22

what does, there must be a logical thread, and then hikari has never been in love with Chisaki
that lie in Chisaki tsugumu makes sense, maybe she does not want to hurt him, or he is afraid of losing him.

His obsession is unbearable. I prefer not to send couples until the story progresses more.

Kazu-kun · 2014-01-16, 13:00

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Originally Posted by kira22

toradora everyone knew how did it go, the same thing for vampire knight, Aquarion evol, as well.

Toradora and Vampire Knight are manga adaptations, and Aquarion Evol followed Kawamori's concept. But if you let Okada unrestrained she's going to aim for the mindfuck. That's the sort of writer she is.

kira22 · 2014-01-16, 13:10

I can take as an example: Hanasaku Iroha, has a logical story, we prlando of guys who have lastessa age and height.
then the end will stay with you for Chisaki hikari or kaname? what you're seeing?
and then, then in episode 11 When He Chisaki sbatutto elbows with Tsumugu, was embarrassed
in the 12th episode tufa to save him and hugs him
That and then the years have visuti in the same house.
and finally the character of Tsumugu what is the point in this story? the same thing for the character of Miuna, and who will end tsugumu with sayu or Miuna?
okada Should Be coupled pairs for good
In this episode I saw Chisaki hikari and a couple ugly I did not like repeat it Seemed mother and child, and she Also higher, the giant and the dwarf ....
PS: Fjoergyn this phrase Refers to me: His obsession is unbearable. I prefer not to send couples until the story progresses blackberries.
I'm Realizing That many okada Say That is nonsense

hoarfrost · 2014-01-16, 13:49

I just want Kaname to wake up already, so we can get some real drama going. The girl you liked, who loved your best friend, who showed more attention to some new guy right before you fell to your sleep, has been living with him for five years, and they are older than you now. No one even speaks of you as a serious romantic contender. Your chances, which were previously dead, are now six feet under.

Everything tells me that his calm, mature facade won't hold against this barrage. Hikari, as much as he's lost in the way of people and time, at least still has his family and people who care to go back to. Kaname won't have any center of gravity so to speak to help him get through this trauma.

Sayu will have her work cut out for her. I predict she'll try to help but it will backfire as no one likes to feel like they are being offered a consolation prize. Kaname will explode and I think she will be caught in the radius. An unfortunate casualty of his pent up frustration.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Episode 15 That was a lot more lighthearted than I expected. I thought we were in for some major drama but most of it was surprisingly subdued with only occassional small bursts. For someone who witnessed his childhood crush get dragged into the seabed and wake up with everything being 5 years later, he's handled it impressively well. Just as well since there doesn't seem to be psychiatrists in this anime either (although apparently there are brain surgeons). __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Hikari's growth since the beginning of the series is astounding. He was naturally scared, confused and depressed by the changes he witnessed, but he quickly resolved to accept and embrace them. That's not something the old Hikari could have done, he would have been angry and would have lashed out at everybody, digging a deeper hole for himself. The current Hikari is impressively mature. His reunion with Chisaki was beautifully done. He chose exactly the right words to say to her and erased most of her worries in a flash. Another well done scene was the one where Tsumugu walked in on Chisaki changing. It was unusually subdued and mature for something coming out of an Okada anime. This small scene alone was enough to convey how deeply Tsumugu cares for Chisaki. I really hope these two will end up together. I liked how Miuna handled Hikari's return. To her, it's like a dream come true. The person she has loved all these years is back and is now the same age as her. However, she knows Hikari has his own issues to deal with and is trying her best to understand and support him. She's very considerate and sensitive. I can't wait to see how her relationship with Hikari will develop. Right now, he probably still sees her as "little Miuna" but there's no way he'll be able to remain indifferent to her charms for long. I haven't rooted for a girl so much in a long time. If she loses to Manaka, I'm going to be sad. The preview for the next episode was interesting. Sounds like Sayu is frustrated Kaname hasn't returned. I knew she wasn't over him. __________________

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kira22 Member Join Date: Sep 2012	I can take as an example: Hanasaku Iroha, has a logical story, we prlando of guys who have lastessa age and height. then the end will stay with you for Chisaki hikari or kaname? what you're seeing? and then, then in episode 11 When He Chisaki sbatutto elbows with Tsumugu, was embarrassed in the 12th episode tufa to save him and hugs him That and then the years have visuti in the same house. and finally the character of Tsumugu what is the point in this story? the same thing for the character of Miuna, and who will end tsugumu with sayu or Miuna? okada Should Be coupled pairs for good In this episode I saw Chisaki hikari and a couple ugly I did not like repeat it Seemed mother and child, and she Also higher, the giant and the dwarf .... PS: Fjoergyn this phrase Refers to me: His obsession is unbearable. I prefer not to send couples until the story progresses blackberries. I'm Realizing That many okada Say That is nonsense Last edited by kira22; 2014-01-16 at 13:22.

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Meltyred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Seems like Uroko is keeping everything away from the town at the moment, as Hikari was not able to even swim near it. Hikari's breakdown was amazing, good to know he can rely on Tsumubro enough to confess his fears instantly. Wonder what happens to Hikari when it comes to education now.. go back to same school, or....

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hai_san Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Germany	good things: Hikari is back. Tsumugu finally showing some "emotions". bad thing: Hikari and Chisaki meeting last like 30s?...

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kira22 Member Join Date: Sep 2012	does not make sense if Chisaki 5 years has not developed any feelings for Tsumugu, I do not understand why he did not tell the truth perhaps not to hurt him, maybe at the end Tsumugu decide to go back to town, and then realize if Chisaki of being in love. hikari and Chisaki as a couple are not beautiful, they seem to mother and child, I did not come to say that age does not matter, because it does not make sense, then, the character of Tsumugu does not make sense in all this story.

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kira22 Member Join Date: Sep 2012	Chisaki for you at the end with who shall stand?

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hoarfrost Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 32	I just want Kaname to wake up already, so we can get some real drama going. The girl you liked, who loved your best friend, who showed more attention to some new guy right before you fell to your sleep, has been living with him for five years, and they are older than you now. No one even speaks of you as a serious romantic contender. Your chances, which were previously dead, are now six feet under. Everything tells me that his calm, mature facade won't hold against this barrage. Hikari, as much as he's lost in the way of people and time, at least still has his family and people who care to go back to. Kaname won't have any center of gravity so to speak to help him get through this trauma. Sayu will have her work cut out for her. I predict she'll try to help but it will backfire as no one likes to feel like they are being offered a consolation prize. Kaname will explode and I think she will be caught in the radius. An unfortunate casualty of his pent up frustration.