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Gravitas Free Zone · 2014-01-29, 12:38

I almost one-shot the E-25 in that game... it went to the top of the hill over the river and I put a BL-10 shot through it broadside, taking it to 2% because RNG wasn't being nice to me. It managed to remain annoying while we went through the Lowe and SflV (I was taking the SflV as a greater threat since the E-25 would have had to shoot me approximately three times to finish me off and I would have reacted on either Sixth Sense going off or the first hit, while the SflV could have had me in one), and it was the last thing to be killed, when it finally rushed my position and I hit it broadside again.

But yeah, the E-25 is fun to use. My two anecdotes with it include a Prokhorovka game where another E-25 and I ended up shooting the hell out of the west road (and the other E-25 actually ran out of ammo on the way to some crazy high damage figure) and an Abbey game where I ripped apart an enemy Tiger (this is after the ROF buff on the Tiger) and Church BP with DPM and peekaboo.

However, if you screw up with the E-25, high-alpha TDs will blow your face off (152mm HE will pretty much annihilate it), and crew/module damage from the back/sides is common. It relocates really, really well, which has saved quite a few lives. On the other hand, my win rate in the E-25 isn't so good because I have Hellcat Syndrome in it: It's fast enough that I tend to get just a bit too far out to be safe.

TheFluff · 2014-01-29, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Blaat

T20 is garbage as well, awful mobility and the DPM is way too low for tier 7. There hasn't been a tier 7 medium tank which I consider worth keeping, same with the tier 8 mediums.

you have bad opinions about tanks

I respectfully submit the following two replays as exhibit A and B, respectively

(you don't need to watch the second one, it's on Komarin so it's boring as shit. getting 4k spotting damage isn't exactly exciting business)

Seriously though, both the T-43 and the T-20 are Really Good Tanks. The T-43 suffers a bit from low penetration but it's a medium so you're going to be flanking people all the time anyway. The T20 has sorta lowish DPM and isn't as agile, but it has really fucking high APCR pen, good depression and view range.

edit: by the way the A-44 is really good as well, it's just sorta hard to play

Achiuakuna · 2014-01-29, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Mow Yun

Tier 8 mediums get a healthy power boost, in my opinion. It's not so bad as tier 7 where its T29/IS/IS-2/Tiger or bust. Pershing is an awesome tank and perhaps my favorite out of the "classic" tier 8 tanks.

Also the penetration creep is stupid. I remember back when the Panther (1 back then)'s 203 penetration at tier 8 was godlike for a medium and listed as one of its strongest points. Now people whine if a tier 8 medium tank doesn't have 200+ penetration and is "useless" because it can't effortlessly penetrate Ferdinands from the front /oldmanrant

I agree. The penetration creep is stupid. It really hurts the classic mediums that were "left behind" because they were made to utilize medium tank tactics as opposed to peekaboo frontal plates. Your best bet is to pray that your particular medium has exaggeratedly high penetration gold rounds or that it has a late release date, patch wise.

I do enjoy my Pershing and I got it well after the penetration creep happened. As much as I like to claim medium tanks are completely irrelevant now with all the extreme pen extreme alpha TDs rolling around, they are still playable. It is just really tiring to achieve a level where you're not a liability to the team.

The gut response to any medium tank whine is of course "learn to play", but at this point I think it's no longer a question of "how" but a question of "why". If I were the best player in the whole world I can obviously pwn in any tank. But I am not. At the same time, I still have some skills to utilize my medium tanks and have very good games from time to time. If I can easily and more reliably make contributions in newer OP tanks, why would I want to play the older classic mediums with more effort and possibly less payout, other than to make a point? After playing mediums back to back it inevitably leads to the cynicism of "if others don't have to put in the effort, why should I"?

I really try to love my mediums, but sometimes I just get tired.

Pen3 · 2014-01-30, 05:26

Well i am enjoying the STB-1, but the Tier8 STA-1 is still my favorite out of the Jp tree.

A few decent games i had tonight.

Images

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

And i didn't get a chance to take a ss of the STB-1 Ace Tanker game, but i have the replay here.
The game from the second screenshot is here. This was a very exciting game watch how many times my platoon mate saved my ass from the back lol.

Tempester · 2014-01-30, 05:44

I wasn't that interested in the Japanese medium line until I found out about the STB-1's DPM and gun depression. I freaking love abusing depression.

Pen3 · 2014-01-30, 05:50

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Originally Posted by Tempester

I wasn't that interested in the Japanese medium line until I found out about the STB-1's DPM and gun depression. I freaking love abusing depression.

I plat with sahin and get top xp with the stb almost everytime when we win. It is a nice tank, but I still love the sta still.

Tak · 2014-01-30, 13:38

Ugh, I can free XP to the STB right now, but don't feel like it. I am almost to the end tier, so I have to work harder

- Tak

Gravitas Free Zone · 2014-01-30, 16:28

Ah, nothing like starting the day's grinding by playing arty first, dropping my performance numbers right off despite doing decent damage (at the minimum) in each game.

Also, it's hilarious to direct-fire an S-51 at close range and nearly explode yourself along with the target.

Tak · 2014-01-30, 18:06

Oi, anyone know when Tsundere Heavy Tank will be released from captivity?

- Tak

Achiuakuna · 2014-01-30, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Tak

captivity

Kuku... That's so dirty.

And I'm not sure.

Tak · 2014-01-30, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

Kuku... That's so dirty.

Fine, how about released from the garage?

- Tak

Gravitas Free Zone · 2014-01-30, 18:52

Somebody get banned again?

Tak · 2014-01-30, 19:51

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Originally Posted by Endless Knackwurst

Somebody get banned again?

Seems our most fearsome Deputy Commander has a tendency to be incarcerated quite frequently. I can't even begin to remember her offenses.

- Tak

Silver-Throne · 2014-01-30, 20:36

I`ve had enough for Asia server. Many bad teams T_T -.-"

I`m gonna move in NA now

[Downloading WOT NA]

Tempester · 2014-01-30, 21:27

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Originally Posted by gunblade23

I`ve had enough for Asia server. Many bad teams T_T -.-"

I`m gonna move in NA now

I've heard some horrible things about the SEA server.

Well then, welcome to NA! Now you can platoon with us.

By the way, I sent you a clan invite to MUP. Strive for excellence!

Tak · 2014-01-30, 23:51

Speaking of which, I might need to promote more officers.

Recommendations appreciated.

- Tak

Gravitas Free Zone · 2014-01-30, 23:57

Mountain Pass, my PzIII in a Tier 6 game. Went to tripwire scout the west road since my team (south) started by ganging up on the ice road and middle area.

Spot Easy Eight, back off.

See that I have a Churchill and KV-1 moving to back me up. Okay.

Churchill explodes in a ball of fire as the Easy Eight has brought a KV-1S along with it. Hmm.

I back off a bit more and the KV-1 trundles forward. Next thing we know it's the KV-1S, Easy Eight, a T40, and a StuG.

T40 blows off half of my HP and my gunner, I take off a bit of it in return before I pull back behind one of the little mounds in the path.

KV-1 is inexplicably not dead yet despite driving into the midst of everything, and has killed the T40. I say screw it, first aid kit the gunner, switch to APCR, and go charging in.

The KV-1S is rounding the mound that has the big rock on it in order to flank the KV-1, which is mixing it up with the E8. I shoot it seven times in the engine and back of the turret and it... explodes. (AAR showed no crits on it, it's possible that our arty put in a shot.)

I'm aiming at the critically-damaged Easy Eight when the KV-1 destroys it.

The StuG starts traversing on me, but I manage to close the distance in time, combining an engine hit and a driver hit before destroying it.

Area is clear... now with a chance to look around I see that our team has actually managed to clear the ice road and has a comfortable lead.

I get killed scouting the enemy base because there's no good way to evade their remaining Hellcat except to attack it.

Team wins in the end. I get to say "I'm so glad I said 'screw it' and charged the KV-1S." The KV-1 that was with me actually survived the battle with a Steel Wall.

Silver-Throne · 2014-01-31, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempester

I've heard some horrible things about the SEA server.

Well then, welcome to NA! Now you can platoon with us.

By the way, I sent you a clan invite to MUP. Strive for excellence!

Thanks

With all the experience I have in SEA, I will strive to become a good player

LeoXiao · 2014-01-31, 02:35

Just had a game where all four of the enemy's Hellcats went 2 line on Prokhorovka. I met them in my Type 58 and over the course of the game spotted and got all of them killed by supporting fire. replay.

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I`m gonna move in NA now

Aw, now you have to grind all your tanks again. We can platoon if we see each other.

RWBladewing · 2014-01-31, 07:50

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Originally Posted by Tak

Speaking of which, I might need to promote more officers.

Recommendations appreciated.

- Tak

I recommend me. My qualifications include:

Constantly online (and AFK).

Promoting diversity. Just look at my sig, 4 different colors represented.

81% winrate in the PzB2. That's like, Super Unicum status yo.

Very intelligent with money. I only have like 10 premium tanks I never play and half a year of premium time I don't want.

<- My avatar is pretty and suggests I may actually be a hot girl irl.

So, as you can see, I am clearly the most qualified. Vote RWBladewing 2014.

2014-01-30, 13:38	Link #11667
Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	Ugh, I can free XP to the STB right now, but don't feel like it. I am almost to the end tier, so I have to work harder - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!! Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2014-01-30, 18:06	Link #11669
Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	Oi, anyone know when Tsundere Heavy Tank will be released from captivity? - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!! Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2014-01-30, 20:36	Link #11674
Silver-Throne Big Game Author Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Exclusively Inside Your Mind.	I`ve had enough for Asia server. Many bad teams T_T -.-" I`m gonna move in NA now [Downloading WOT NA] __________________ Deviant Art Fanfiction.net Profile WOT SEA

2014-01-30, 23:51	Link #11676
Tak Catholic = Cat addiction? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: MURICA!!	Speaking of which, I might need to promote more officers. Recommendations appreciated. - Tak __________________ BLESSED IS OUR GOD, THE LORD OF MIRACLES, FOR HE HAS SUPPLIED AN ENTIRE BATTALION WITH JUST FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMO AND TWO GRENADES!! Remember, the toes you step on today may be connected to the @ss you have to kiss tomorrow.

2014-01-29, 12:38	Link #11661
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	I almost one-shot the E-25 in that game... it went to the top of the hill over the river and I put a BL-10 shot through it broadside, taking it to 2% because RNG wasn't being nice to me. It managed to remain annoying while we went through the Lowe and SflV (I was taking the SflV as a greater threat since the E-25 would have had to shoot me approximately three times to finish me off and I would have reacted on either Sixth Sense going off or the first hit, while the SflV could have had me in one), and it was the last thing to be killed, when it finally rushed my position and I hit it broadside again. But yeah, the E-25 is fun to use. My two anecdotes with it include a Prokhorovka game where another E-25 and I ended up shooting the hell out of the west road (and the other E-25 actually ran out of ammo on the way to some crazy high damage figure) and an Abbey game where I ripped apart an enemy Tiger (this is after the ROF buff on the Tiger) and Church BP with DPM and peekaboo. However, if you screw up with the E-25, high-alpha TDs will blow your face off (152mm HE will pretty much annihilate it), and crew/module damage from the back/sides is common. It relocates really, really well, which has saved quite a few lives. On the other hand, my win rate in the E-25 isn't so good because I have Hellcat Syndrome in it: It's fast enough that I tend to get just a bit too far out to be safe.

2014-01-30, 05:26	Link #11664
Pen3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Well i am enjoying the STB-1, but the Tier8 STA-1 is still my favorite out of the Jp tree. A few decent games i had tonight. Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? And i didn't get a chance to take a ss of the STB-1 Ace Tanker game, but i have the replay here. The game from the second screenshot is here. This was a very exciting game watch how many times my platoon mate saved my ass from the back lol.

2014-01-30, 05:44	Link #11665
Tempester Japanese Culture Fan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Planet Earth Age: 33	I wasn't that interested in the Japanese medium line until I found out about the STB-1's DPM and gun depression. I freaking love abusing depression.

2014-01-30, 16:28	Link #11668
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Ah, nothing like starting the day's grinding by playing arty first, dropping my performance numbers right off despite doing decent damage (at the minimum) in each game. Also, it's hilarious to direct-fire an S-51 at close range and nearly explode yourself along with the target.

2014-01-30, 18:52	Link #11672
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Somebody get banned again?

2014-01-30, 23:57	Link #11677
Gravitas Free Zone Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Mountain Pass, my PzIII in a Tier 6 game. Went to tripwire scout the west road since my team (south) started by ganging up on the ice road and middle area. Spot Easy Eight, back off. See that I have a Churchill and KV-1 moving to back me up. Okay. Churchill explodes in a ball of fire as the Easy Eight has brought a KV-1S along with it. Hmm. I back off a bit more and the KV-1 trundles forward. Next thing we know it's the KV-1S, Easy Eight, a T40, and a StuG. T40 blows off half of my HP and my gunner, I take off a bit of it in return before I pull back behind one of the little mounds in the path. KV-1 is inexplicably not dead yet despite driving into the midst of everything, and has killed the T40. I say screw it, first aid kit the gunner, switch to APCR, and go charging in. The KV-1S is rounding the mound that has the big rock on it in order to flank the KV-1, which is mixing it up with the E8. I shoot it seven times in the engine and back of the turret and it... explodes. (AAR showed no crits on it, it's possible that our arty put in a shot.) I'm aiming at the critically-damaged Easy Eight when the KV-1 destroys it. The StuG starts traversing on me, but I manage to close the distance in time, combining an engine hit and a driver hit before destroying it. Area is clear... now with a chance to look around I see that our team has actually managed to clear the ice road and has a comfortable lead. I get killed scouting the enemy base because there's no good way to evade their remaining Hellcat except to attack it. Team wins in the end. I get to say "I'm so glad I said 'screw it' and charged the KV-1S." The KV-1 that was with me actually survived the battle with a Steel Wall.