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SOGESNAKE · 2014-02-13, 19:14

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I didn't really recognize the character, but I did think he looked like a cool character to play as. And damn, did an unknown character get chosen to enter the fray. Which isn't a bad thing though.
But it seems his recovery is pretty weak. Hmm... I wonder how heavy he is...

I wouldn't say Little Mac and Punch-Out are unknown to the fans, hell... I'd say Punch-Out! on Wii sold REALLY well, maybe even one of the top selling titles.... him being an Assist Trophy in Brawl also could've helped the chances too...

Yeah.... if Snake isn't in (and odds are very low he will be...), I think I'll be maining Mac... a charge-able attack that instantly KO's opponents? Sounds like a dick move just waiting to be used...

Shadow5YA · 2014-02-13, 21:17

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

I didn't really recognize the character, but I did think he looked like a cool character to play as. And damn, did an unknown character get chosen to enter the fray. Which isn't a bad thing though.
But it seems his recovery is pretty weak. Hmm... I wonder how heavy he is...

Unknown? Punch-Out is a NES classic.

ROB is even more obscure for being an accessory

serenade_beta · 2014-02-14, 02:40

I never had a NES (；´∀｀)

Meh, Snake won't make it in. Doubt it very much.

Angelic Cross · 2014-02-14, 07:08

Hmmm, if Mac's KO meter works like in the original Punch Out, then you're going to have to play aggressively with him and combo a lot, since the meter back in the original game would build up as you string hits and would go down if you get hit.

SOGESNAKE · 2014-02-21, 06:30

And to nobody's surprise... Diddy Kong returns to Smash Bros.

Tokkan · 2014-02-21, 06:39

It appears they've given him stretchy limbs, made him more Dhalsim-esque.

Urzu 7 · 2014-04-05, 21:19

Smash Bros. centric Nintendo Direct happening in a couple of days.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=796223

Check the OP of that thread for times. Happening on April 8th and April 9th, depending on where you live.

Tokkan · 2014-04-08, 17:50

So...

Returning:
Zero Suit Samus
Sheik
Yoshi
Charizard

New:
Greninja

3DS version has an exclusive mode call "Smash Run" where up to 4 players have to spend 5 minutes roaming a dungeon collecting stat powerups and items and when 5 minutes is up, they get to fight eachother with all their new power.

Custom move sets are now a reality, but they're only available in local and "For Fun" online matches.

Urzu 7 · 2014-04-08, 19:26

What is Greninja from? Pokemon?

I'm disappointed with this Smash direct. 3DS version in summer, but Wii U version (the one I want) in winter of 2014 (so probably early December). 3DS version gets a mode that seems fun but won't be in Wii U version. I waited for new character reveals, and what we got was Charizard (don't care) and Greninja, who seems like a Pokemon, and either way, I don't care.

What I was happy to see is Zero Suit Samus back, and as a stand alone character. Sheik being back and being a stand alone character is also really good. There was some nice tidbits in the video, but I'm more disappointed than pleased. I still look forward to the game and it should be a very fun game. However, I don't like some of the new characters. I was never excited about Wii Fit Trainer and Villager, and I can add Charizard and Greninja to that list. At least Rosalina and Luma as well as Mega Man are great newcomers, and Little Mac is a very cool newcomer.

GDB · 2014-04-08, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Urzu 7

What is Greninja from? Pokemon?

Yes. He's the final evolution of the water starter; a water/dark ninja frog.

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I waited for new character reveals, and what we got was Charizard (don't care) and Greninja, who seems like a Pokemon, and either way, I don't care.

They had said a long time ago the roster size wouldn't be much different from Brawl. They likely dropped some, like Snake and Sonic, and in turn we got the likes of Megaman, Wii Fit Trainer, and AC Player.

Urzu 7 · 2014-04-08, 19:38

Sonic is in the new Smash Bros. games, too.

serenade_beta · 2014-04-08, 21:45

Sakurai did a good job with the environment settings. Such as using a high score system that doesn't use a point score and a punishment system for cheaters and other players with rude manners.
Also was able to separate the "Fox, Final Destination NO ITEMS!" group of so-be pros in their own room while forcing them to stare at more than one field.

And love the new assist figures. Ashley

And love the presentation in general. Sakurai definitely is brilliant.

But I'm surprised the frog came in. As a ninja, I can see that it is easier to create a moveset for him though.
Anyways, give me my Ganondorf

Rising Dragon · 2014-04-08, 22:03

Anyone see this yet?

Tokkan · 2014-04-08, 22:12

No Aile and/or Vent? For shame... At least Legends finally got the recognition it deserves, even if it is not from Capcom themselves.

Rising Dragon · 2014-04-08, 22:37

Mega Man Model ZX wouldn't fit the theme, since it's modeled after Zero. And that's what they would've appeared as, Model ZX, rather than Model X.

Shadow5YA · 2014-04-08, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Anyone see this yet?

It's sad how this will probably be the only time we'll get to see them in HD

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Originally Posted by serenade_beta

But I'm surprised the frog came in. As a ninja, I can see that it is easier to create a moveset for him though.

Greninja is the most popular evolved starter from the most recent game in the franchise. XY has been one of the most successful Pokémon generations in a while.

His and Charizard's addition to the roster actually make more sense than Lucario.

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Originally Posted by GDB

They had said a long time ago the roster size wouldn't be much different from Brawl. They likely dropped some, like Snake and Sonic, and in turn we got the likes of Megaman, Wii Fit Trainer, and AC Player.

Uh... what?

http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/sonic.html

serenade_beta · 2014-04-09, 02:24

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Greninja is the most popular evolved starter from the most recent game in the franchise

Heh~ That's interesting to know. I'm a big fan of Pokemon and have invested 1000s of hour into it, but my time towards XY has been sucked by MH4, so I have not been keeping up with it.

Blaat · 2014-04-09, 02:42

Is it me or has Samus' cup size increased compared to the previous game?

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Anyone see this yet?

Best.final.smash.ever.

Anyway I'm guessing Pokémon trainer is out.

Shadow5YA · 2014-04-09, 11:31

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Originally Posted by Blaat

Is it me or has Samus' cup size increased compared to the previous game?

Thank Team Ninja's Other M design for that

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Originally Posted by Blaat

Anyway I'm guessing Pokémon trainer is out.

Switching characters mid battle in Smash was a game mechanic seldom used by players anyway. Most people who wanted to play Sheik would never switch back to Zelda, and people who wanted to play Zero Suit Samus never liked going through the trouble of getting a Final Smash orb to change back.

If Pokémon Trainer didn't have that silly fatigue mechanic that forces you to switch every so often, many people would be sticking to one Pokémon as well.

Characters designed with a switching mechanic also suffered in Brawl. With Zelda and Sheik, Zelda was designed to be the slow hard hitter, and Sheik the agile fighter with no real finishing power. The flaws both characters were intentionally designed with to balance each other out made both of them suffer compared to other characters like say... Meta Knight and Toon Link who were versatile enough to have both speed and firepower.
The same issue applies to Red's three Pokémon, and Zero Suit Samus.

I agree with Sakurai that it's better to make them standalone characters so that they can be designed as such. No one really switched mid battle on a regular basis to overcome the other form's shortcomings anyway (except for Pokémon Trainer where the game forced you to), and the mechanic was flawed to where switching mid battle wasn't exactly practical with how long the animations are.

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Key Board · 2014-04-10, 16:28

why can't you use your custom moveset characters online?
seems like a missed chance to me

if they were really worried about fairness make yet another separate bracket for custom moveset characters

also, at this point, I'm pretty sure that Ike is gone and he replacement is either Chrom (95%) or Lucina (5%)

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serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	I never had a NES (；´∀｀) Meh, Snake won't make it in. Doubt it very much. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

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Angelic Cross Soul-eating Librarian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Within the stacks. . .waiting to devour you. . .	Hmmm, if Mac's KO meter works like in the original Punch Out, then you're going to have to play aggressively with him and combo a lot, since the meter back in the original game would build up as you string hits and would go down if you get hit. __________________ Wherefore art thou of such sombre countenance?

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SOGESNAKE NEW WORLD BABY~! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Raftel Age: 33	And to nobody's surprise... Diddy Kong returns to Smash Bros. __________________

2014-04-05, 21:19	Link #287
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	Smash Bros. centric Nintendo Direct happening in a couple of days. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=796223 Check the OP of that thread for times. Happening on April 8th and April 9th, depending on where you live. __________________

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Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 36	So... Returning: Zero Suit Samus Sheik Yoshi Charizard New: Greninja 3DS version has an exclusive mode call "Smash Run" where up to 4 players have to spend 5 minutes roaming a dungeon collecting stat powerups and items and when 5 minutes is up, they get to fight eachother with all their new power. Custom move sets are now a reality, but they're only available in local and "For Fun" online matches. Last edited by Tokkan; 2014-04-08 at 22:00.

2014-02-21, 06:39	Link #286
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 36	It appears they've given him stretchy limbs, made him more Dhalsim-esque.

2014-04-08, 19:26	Link #289
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	What is Greninja from? Pokemon? I'm disappointed with this Smash direct. 3DS version in summer, but Wii U version (the one I want) in winter of 2014 (so probably early December). 3DS version gets a mode that seems fun but won't be in Wii U version. I waited for new character reveals, and what we got was Charizard (don't care) and Greninja, who seems like a Pokemon, and either way, I don't care. What I was happy to see is Zero Suit Samus back, and as a stand alone character. Sheik being back and being a stand alone character is also really good. There was some nice tidbits in the video, but I'm more disappointed than pleased. I still look forward to the game and it should be a very fun game. However, I don't like some of the new characters. I was never excited about Wii Fit Trainer and Villager, and I can add Charizard and Greninja to that list. At least Rosalina and Luma as well as Mega Man are great newcomers, and Little Mac is a very cool newcomer. __________________

2014-04-08, 19:38	Link #291
Urzu 7 Juanita/Kiteless Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New England Age: 40	Sonic is in the new Smash Bros. games, too. __________________

2014-04-08, 21:45	Link #292
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Sakurai did a good job with the environment settings. Such as using a high score system that doesn't use a point score and a punishment system for cheaters and other players with rude manners. Also was able to separate the "Fox, Final Destination NO ITEMS!" group of so-be pros in their own room while forcing them to stare at more than one field. And love the new assist figures. Ashley And love the presentation in general. Sakurai definitely is brilliant. But I'm surprised the frog came in. As a ninja, I can see that it is easier to create a moveset for him though. Anyways, give me my Ganondorf __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2014-04-08, 22:03	Link #293
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 37	Anyone see this yet? __________________

2014-04-08, 22:12	Link #294
Tokkan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Age: 36	No Aile and/or Vent? For shame... At least Legends finally got the recognition it deserves, even if it is not from Capcom themselves.

2014-04-08, 22:37	Link #295
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 37	Mega Man Model ZX wouldn't fit the theme, since it's modeled after Zero. And that's what they would've appeared as, Model ZX, rather than Model X. __________________

2014-04-10, 16:28	Link #300
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	why can't you use your custom moveset characters online? seems like a missed chance to me if they were really worried about fairness make yet another separate bracket for custom moveset characters also, at this point, I'm pretty sure that Ike is gone and he replacement is either Chrom (95%) or Lucina (5%) __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell