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bones · 2014-02-23, 13:16

Just because the Prime Minister and his son are plotting against each other doesn't mean he will condone Wave's killing of his son. It's okay for him to punish or kill his son. It's another thing for some outsider to do so.

Homura7 · 2014-02-23, 13:29

No matter how you look it, Wave can't do this by himself. He's gonna need allies, and this is where the truce with NR comes into play.

This arc is going to be glorious: NR + Jaeggers vs WH. Add to this the Rakasha demon that survived and general Budou entering the fray.

Tenzen12 · 2014-02-23, 13:33

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Originally Posted by bones

Just because the Prime Minister and his son are plotting against each other doesn't mean he will condone Wave's killing of his son. It's okay for him to punish or kill his son. It's another thing for some outsider to do so.

we know that they are not loyal to each other, but we don't know HOW MUCH. PM can try kill Wave and co. even if he doesn't particulary like his son.

Shadow5YA · 2014-02-23, 14:03

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Originally Posted by bones

Just because the Prime Minister and his son are plotting against each other doesn't mean he will condone Wave's killing of his son. It's okay for him to punish or kill his son. It's another thing for some outsider to do so.

Is it? It's perfectly in the Prime Minister's nature to let someone else do the work for him.

I don't think there's as much familial love as you think there is.

Fwarlord · 2014-02-24, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Kiltias

Met her interest?
She got pissed and hit Tatsumi (The one she is obsessively in love with) when he told her to join the Revolutionaries and fighting alongside him against the Empire. (Who according to you, she is only interest in).

Sorry but, I doubt she is only "interested" in the Empire when she went physical to her love when asked to betray them despite it would lead to being able to be with Tatsumi of his own will.

That not it. Esdese didn't get pissed off because Tatsumi asked her to betray the empire. She was upset because he asked her to betray the ideal she worship for her whole life, he want her to sympathize with the weak and thus fight for their sake. She refused because in her mindset, the weak deserve to perish and only the strong can survive, so there is nothing wrong with the empire's tyranny.
But that doesn't mean Esdese is loyal to the empire. She fight for it because it fits her dog-eat-dog point of view, allows her to live the life she is comfortable with and didn't do anything that make her upset. But it's another story if it piss her off...

orangejuicetang · 2014-02-24, 12:19

What exactly was this 'preview' thing with the NR and Jaegers together that ppl were talking about?

ta2666 · 2014-02-24, 12:25

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Originally Posted by K. Shiruto

Spoiler for spoiler:

This is what they were talking about

Iggy_Pop · 2014-02-24, 14:15

Don't know if anyone posted this yet
Chapter 46

Breimoon · 2014-02-24, 14:21

no not yet, thank you

Spoiler for RAW:

DevilHighDxD · 2014-02-24, 14:33

That picture of Bors and his wife and daughter at the end is really just... punching in the guts on me...

Iggy_Pop · 2014-02-24, 14:44

Well, looks like I'll be supporting WavexKurome from now.

ellifeedn · 2014-02-24, 15:13

I don't know how to feel about the Zero series.

Libros · 2014-02-24, 15:17

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Originally Posted by ellifeedn

I don't know how to feel about the Zero series.

Why's that?

Excorsism · 2014-02-24, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Iggy_Pop

Well, looks like I'll be supporting WavexKurome from now.

Now we just have to hope they survive and our two MCs will be in a relationship in a battle manga.

ellifeedn · 2014-02-24, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Libros

Why's that?

I wasn't feeling the emotional impact of the latest chapter. I guess the shock of Bors's (Is it Boris?) wife and child is overshadowing it.

Kiltias · 2014-02-24, 16:17

Spoiler for YOU GOTTA BE:

Homura7 · 2014-02-24, 16:25

Dude, did the guy who uploaded the raw do that on purpose? Because I raged like there's no tomorrow.

Spoiler for SPOILER:

orangejuicetang · 2014-02-24, 17:15

Man, I don't know if Shura has let the power/authority run away to his head, but I don't know if needlessly antagonizing the Jaegers is in his own best interest. Yes, Shura is the PM's son, but the Jaegers by now is more or less Esdese's personal group, and if Wild Hunt and the Jaegers come into direct conflict, I really can't see the PM choosing to support Shura over Esdese if simply because Esdese is 'empire's strongest' and turning her against him would lose him quite a lot of power and security. I mean, considering general Rivers as an example, simply because Esdese is so useful to the PM, even a 'criminal' like Rivers who had gotten the PM's disfavor was more or less fully pardoned.

In that sense, I don't think framing the Jaegers for a crime would be that feasible, although it is fortunate for Shura/Wild Hunt that Esdese is off repelling the foreign forces atm. Their best best for getting rid of the Jaeger members would be via assassination and then framing NR, although that could be difficult since the Jaeger members are pretty strong, and none of the Wild Hunt strengths seem to be geared towards assassination.

tl;dr: Shura picking a fight with the Jaegers is stupid even if he is the PM's son.

Soverence · 2014-02-24, 17:45

A lot of people seem to think Esdese would side with Wave and what he did in "going against the prime minister" and I for the life of me can't see why they would think that way. She has always been loyal to the strongest which at this point is the Empire/Prime Minister and his group (which for now does include Wild Hunt even if it is obvious that they will betray him at some point). At best I could just see her letting them fight it out to determine the "strongest" but for the life of me I couldn't see her siding with Wave outright even if he is a comrade.

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Now we just have to hope they survive and our two MCs will be in a relationship in a battle manga.

Now that would be a change of pace for once, actual relationships in a battle manga where someone doesn't die off instantly for emotional impact? What a insane idea!

.

DarkDooM · 2014-02-24, 17:59

Our manlet of a protagonist needs some kind of development in the form of a good, nice growth spurt already:

Spoiler:

2014-02-24, 12:19	Link #3886
orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 33	What exactly was this 'preview' thing with the NR and Jaegers together that ppl were talking about? __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

2014-02-24, 14:15	Link #3888
Iggy_Pop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Don't know if anyone posted this yet Chapter 46 Last edited by LKK; 2014-02-27 at 12:30. Reason: removed link

2014-02-24, 14:21	Link #3889
Breimoon Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	no not yet, thank you Spoiler for RAW: Mein was quite nice in this ch, really want to see hers and tatsumi relationship to develop more.And it seems like pm's son is a good fighter . Last edited by Breimoon; 2014-02-24 at 14:32.

2014-02-24, 14:33	Link #3890
DevilHighDxD Zero Two Best waifu 2018 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Living the NEET dream Age: 28	That picture of Bors and his wife and daughter at the end is really just... punching in the guts on me... __________________

2014-02-24, 14:44	Link #3891
Iggy_Pop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Well, looks like I'll be supporting WavexKurome from now. Last edited by Iggy_Pop; 2014-02-24 at 14:58.

2014-02-23, 13:16	Link #3881
bones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Just because the Prime Minister and his son are plotting against each other doesn't mean he will condone Wave's killing of his son. It's okay for him to punish or kill his son. It's another thing for some outsider to do so.

2014-02-23, 13:29	Link #3882
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	No matter how you look it, Wave can't do this by himself. He's gonna need allies, and this is where the truce with NR comes into play. This arc is going to be glorious: NR + Jaeggers vs WH. Add to this the Rakasha demon that survived and general Budou entering the fray.

2014-02-24, 15:13	Link #3892
ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	I don't know how to feel about the Zero series.

2014-02-24, 16:17	Link #3896
Kiltias Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Spoiler for YOU GOTTA BE: At the freaking grave.............

2014-02-24, 16:25	Link #3897
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Dude, did the guy who uploaded the raw do that on purpose? Because I raged like there's no tomorrow. Spoiler for SPOILER: Shura isn't making it past this arc. A teigu that isn't meant for battle and his fighting prowess is useless against teigu users. He's dead meat, period. And the clown bastard is going to die a horrible death at the hands of Lan.

2014-02-24, 17:15	Link #3898
orangejuicetang Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 33	Man, I don't know if Shura has let the power/authority run away to his head, but I don't know if needlessly antagonizing the Jaegers is in his own best interest. Yes, Shura is the PM's son, but the Jaegers by now is more or less Esdese's personal group, and if Wild Hunt and the Jaegers come into direct conflict, I really can't see the PM choosing to support Shura over Esdese if simply because Esdese is 'empire's strongest' and turning her against him would lose him quite a lot of power and security. I mean, considering general Rivers as an example, simply because Esdese is so useful to the PM, even a 'criminal' like Rivers who had gotten the PM's disfavor was more or less fully pardoned. In that sense, I don't think framing the Jaegers for a crime would be that feasible, although it is fortunate for Shura/Wild Hunt that Esdese is off repelling the foreign forces atm. Their best best for getting rid of the Jaeger members would be via assassination and then framing NR, although that could be difficult since the Jaeger members are pretty strong, and none of the Wild Hunt strengths seem to be geared towards assassination. tl;dr: Shura picking a fight with the Jaegers is stupid even if he is the PM's son. __________________ WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN If a corrupt court will not behead an evil king, than the watchman should do it himself.

2014-02-24, 17:59	Link #3900
DarkDooM Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany	Our manlet of a protagonist needs some kind of development in the form of a good, nice growth spurt already: Spoiler: __________________