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AmeNoJaku · 2014-02-20, 04:36

I loved the episode, but...

Choosing a cliffhanger wasn't the best choice for the mood of the series. It would have been much better to include the resolution of the Uka/Inari part in the previous episode, and start this episode when they reunite with the rest.

Another thing I hear a lot here too is how Touka fails to see Uka romantically. What people forget is that from Touka's perspective Uka was a malevolent entity haunting him all his life. Even though he realized that this wasn't the case, it would take a lot of time to get over the feelings of mistrust already built. I can see though how this is has been mishandled in the anime, since it was fleetingly mentioned a few times, and only included one flashback from Touka's perspective, which was comical. Otherwise all interactions seem normal to a viewer, setting considered, of course.

As for Uka, it's nice that they finally included her perspective on humans, as strange as it might sound she is the less developed character. Most of her time is spent on stereotypical situations which offer no chances to reveal her personality.

jeroz · 2014-02-20, 07:13

Touka obviously noticed it, but he just cannot acknowledge it yet.
In other words, he's your obligatory tsundere in a RomCom.

but yeah, love those moments with Uka-sama

Kanon · 2014-02-20, 09:42

Uka is definitely the highlight of the series. That's not to say I don't enjoy Inari's adventures, I do, but Uka is just that good. Her interaction with Touka is so wonderful.

I'm very pleased there are no love triangles in this series. Inari, Sumizome and Uka don't really have any rivals, so their romance can blossom naturally. I was surprised Sumizome "came out of the closet" so soon. Maru and Inari were very understanding and supportive, but I'm not sure how Sanjo would react. No doubt there is some drama incoming.

Random Wanderer · 2014-02-20, 10:16

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

I loved the episode, but...

Choosing a cliffhanger wasn't the best choice for the mood of the series. It would have been much better to include the resolution of the Uka/Inari part in the previous episode, and start this episode when they reunite with the rest.

The manga had the same cliffhanger. The only difference was that Kon's comment "Are you going to grant Sumizome-sama's wish?!" was in the end of the first part of the cliffhanger in the manga rather than the beginning of the second. At least here we didn't have to wait a month to see what happened.

Lord of Fire · 2014-02-21, 15:44

For those who participated in the naming contest, InaKon got the most votes on the new shorthand title – 7,141 in total.

http://inarikonkon.jp/result/

AmeNoJaku · 2014-02-21, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

For those who participated in the naming contest, InaKon got the most votes on the new shorthand title – 7,141 in total.

http://inarikonkon.jp/result/

7k... hm, I guess fans these days are not only too lazy to type, but also to think too

Lord of Fire · 2014-02-21, 23:12

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

7k... hm, I guess fans these days are not only too lazy to type, but also to think too

Character limit for text messages are to blame for the first. It's why a lot of teens nowadays don't seem to know how to spell properly anymore.

As for the second, if you mean they're too lazy to use the full name, take note how a lot of people in the western fanbase tend to shorten certain anime with relatively long names as well.

AmeNoJaku · 2014-02-21, 23:46

Let's no veer of topic here

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Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

Character limit for text messages are to blame for the first. It's why a lot of teens nowadays don't seem to know how to spell properly anymore.

No, that's a symptom, and in between, older people are worse at spelling, it's just that we see them writing a lot less. As for how significant is having an official short name to save 7 out of 11 characters in 200 limit tweets and 0.07 yen on an sms is beyond me. Just using kanji would save 3 out of 11 already, and there is a grand total of zero anime starting with inari, as well as only another one including inari in its title.

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As for the second, if you mean they're too lazy to use the full name, take note how a lot of people in the western fanbase tend to shorten certain anime with relatively long names as well.

The poll was not targeted to the western fanbase.

ookamigirl · 2014-02-26, 14:22

#7

Spoiler for plot:

Random Wanderer · 2014-02-26, 15:17

And here we further see the development of the power within Inari. It is no longer a single power, but rather it would be more accurate to simply say Inari has the power of a god. And a god's power is not something a human can safely control...

From a manga-readers perspective, a lot has been cut again. I expected them to skip chapter 14, as it was one of the few that I figured could be safely cut, but they also cut away the entire true reason Uka was willing to go to the marriage meetings, rather cheapening Uka's character in the process.

LeoXiao · 2014-02-26, 16:01

Bad to hear that they cut out a lot of Uka's character development. Her problems are at this point far more interesting than Inari's.

sikvod00 · 2014-02-26, 19:06

^ Yeah, it was hard for me to enjoy parts of this episode when Inari was on screen beating herself up yet again for things that were not necessarily her fault (she had no idea the extent of her powers). The way she tries to solve the issue also bugs me. For someone who is presented as being ridiculously considerate and thoughtful of others, she's can be quite careless with the transformation. Impersonating someone else and confessing to their crush? That's kind of messed up, but I guess since Inari is a sweet girl with good intentions the show basically downplays it.

The highlights of this episode were definitely Sumizome's rage

, Uka and Touka's couple argument, and Tanbabashi realizing he likes Inari.

Tenzen12 · 2014-02-26, 19:19

Why? Inari promised relay feelings of that girls, which she did. She simply used her ability to correct mess she caused by that very same power.

IMHO there is no difference between that and passing down that letter (which wasn't possible anymore).

sikvod00 · 2014-02-26, 19:23

The girl didn't ask to be impersonated by someone else, she asked Inari to pass along the letter.

Random Wanderer · 2014-02-26, 19:25

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Originally Posted by sikvod00

For someone who is presented as being ridiculously considerate and thoughtful of others, she's can be quite careless with the transformation. Impersonating someone else and confessing to their crush? That's kind of messed up, but I guess since Inari is a sweet girl with good intentions the show basically downplays it.

Essentially she did it because she couldn't give him the letter. She blamed herself (rightfully or wrongfully) for losing the letter, and she believed that telling him directly was the only way to make it up to Momoyama. She believed it was her responsibility to convey Momoyama's feelings, because she had accepted the letter. This is still being considerate and thoughtful of others. It's not necessarily the best way to go about solving the problem, but it's not because of a failure of those personality traits on her part.

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The girl didn't ask to be impersonated by someone else, she asked Inari to pass along the letter.

What do you want Inari to do, write another letter? Her unconscious desire was to get rid of the letter: that was a wish that the divine power granted. She didn't consciously want it, but that doesn't change the fact that that letter wasn't coming back. She did what she could with what she had to make up for it.

Tenzen12 · 2014-02-26, 19:25

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Originally Posted by sikvod00

The girl didn't ask to be impersonated by someone else, she asked Inari to pass along the letter.

Which was impossible, remember? Letter itself doesn't hold any importance, confession inside does. Even if letter wasn't passed on, thanks to Inari the message itself did

Edit: Random Wanderer ninja'd me and said it better than me, so you can just ignore this post (though if there was better solution I myself can't think what it should be)

sikvod00 · 2014-02-26, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Essentially she did it because she couldn't give him the letter. She blamed herself (rightfully or wrongfully) for losing the letter, and she believed that telling him directly was the only way to make it up to Momoyama. She believed it was her responsibility to convey Momoyama's feelings, because she had accepted the letter. This is still being considerate and thoughtful of others. It's not necessarily the best way to go about solving the problem, but it's not because of a failure of those personality traits on her part.

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Which was impossible, remember? Letter itself doesn't hold any importance, confession inside does.

We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO passing along a love letter that someone gave you permission to do is widely different from just transforming into them and doing it yourself. She should have told the girl she lost letter and apologized. The intention is thoughtful and considerate, but the actions weren't.

Random Wanderer · 2014-02-26, 19:42

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Originally Posted by sikvod00

We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO passing along a love letter that someone gave you permission to do is widely different from just transforming into them and doing it yourself. She should have told the girl she lost letter and apologized. The intention is thoughtful and considerate, but the actions weren't.

This is not the last we'll hear of this girl, although the anime may cut her out from any further part in the plot at the rate they're going. I suggest you go read the manga, however,

Spoiler:

sikvod00 · 2014-02-26, 19:48

Spoiler for reply:

Flower · 2014-02-27, 02:09

Such a lovely series. Yes, I also follow the manga, but I also happen to be a sucker for the shoujo genre, which is being very enjoyably presented for me.

That being said I also grinned to see both the tsun quarrel between Touka and Uka-sama and Sumizone fly off the handle in exasperation. Good for her!

The ED is another one of those brilliantly done combos of visuals and audio for me - fits the bill perfectly. ^^

2014-02-20, 04:36	Link #321
AmeNoJaku Franco's Phalanx is next! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Little England, Europe and Asia	I loved the episode, but... Choosing a cliffhanger wasn't the best choice for the mood of the series. It would have been much better to include the resolution of the Uka/Inari part in the previous episode, and start this episode when they reunite with the rest. Another thing I hear a lot here too is how Touka fails to see Uka romantically. What people forget is that from Touka's perspective Uka was a malevolent entity haunting him all his life. Even though he realized that this wasn't the case, it would take a lot of time to get over the feelings of mistrust already built. I can see though how this is has been mishandled in the anime, since it was fleetingly mentioned a few times, and only included one flashback from Touka's perspective, which was comical. Otherwise all interactions seem normal to a viewer, setting considered, of course. As for Uka, it's nice that they finally included her perspective on humans, as strange as it might sound she is the less developed character. Most of her time is spent on stereotypical situations which offer no chances to reveal her personality. __________________

2014-02-20, 07:13	Link #322
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	Touka obviously noticed it, but he just cannot acknowledge it yet. In other words, he's your obligatory tsundere in a RomCom. but yeah, love those moments with Uka-sama __________________ [TAC]

2014-02-20, 09:42	Link #323
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Uka is definitely the highlight of the series. That's not to say I don't enjoy Inari's adventures, I do, but Uka is just that good. Her interaction with Touka is so wonderful. I'm very pleased there are no love triangles in this series. Inari, Sumizome and Uka don't really have any rivals, so their romance can blossom naturally. I was surprised Sumizome "came out of the closet" so soon. Maru and Inari were very understanding and supportive, but I'm not sure how Sanjo would react. No doubt there is some drama incoming. __________________

2014-02-21, 15:44	Link #325
Lord of Fire The Voice of Reason Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Age: 47	For those who participated in the naming contest, InaKon got the most votes on the new shorthand title – 7,141 in total. http://inarikonkon.jp/result/ __________________

2014-02-26, 14:22	Link #329
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	#7 Spoiler for plot: Cultural festival time! Guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. I was right, Touka does have some feelings for Uka. Watching those two fight was really fun ^^ Inari was being a crybaby this time. She was letting herself be bothered by trivial stuff. Sumizome was a nice surprise. She certainly told Tanbabashi off. Didn't expect to see that from her. I'm glad Tanbabashi finally realized his own feelings. Really good episode! __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2014-02-26, 15:17	Link #330
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	And here we further see the development of the power within Inari. It is no longer a single power, but rather it would be more accurate to simply say Inari has the power of a god. And a god's power is not something a human can safely control... From a manga-readers perspective, a lot has been cut again. I expected them to skip chapter 14, as it was one of the few that I figured could be safely cut, but they also cut away the entire true reason Uka was willing to go to the marriage meetings, rather cheapening Uka's character in the process. __________________

2014-02-26, 16:01	Link #331
LeoXiao 思想工作 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vereinigte Staaten Age: 32	Bad to hear that they cut out a lot of Uka's character development. Her problems are at this point far more interesting than Inari's.

2014-02-26, 19:06	Link #332
sikvod00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 37	^ Yeah, it was hard for me to enjoy parts of this episode when Inari was on screen beating herself up yet again for things that were not necessarily her fault (she had no idea the extent of her powers). The way she tries to solve the issue also bugs me. For someone who is presented as being ridiculously considerate and thoughtful of others, she's can be quite careless with the transformation. Impersonating someone else and confessing to their crush? That's kind of messed up, but I guess since Inari is a sweet girl with good intentions the show basically downplays it. The highlights of this episode were definitely Sumizome's rage, Uka and Touka's couple argument, and Tanbabashi realizing he likes Inari. Last edited by sikvod00; 2014-02-26 at 19:17.

2014-02-26, 19:19	Link #333
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Why? Inari promised relay feelings of that girls, which she did. She simply used her ability to correct mess she caused by that very same power. IMHO there is no difference between that and passing down that letter (which wasn't possible anymore).

2014-02-26, 19:23	Link #334
sikvod00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 37	The girl didn't ask to be impersonated by someone else, she asked Inari to pass along the letter.

2014-02-26, 19:48	Link #339
sikvod00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 37	Spoiler for reply: Irrelevant. I'm watching the anime and I haven't read a manga in years. But assuming they do include that part in the anime, it doesn't dispute my point. It's cool that the girl approved of the action after the fact. But what if she didn't? Inari did it on her own.

2014-02-27, 02:09	Link #340
Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Such a lovely series. Yes, I also follow the manga, but I also happen to be a sucker for the shoujo genre, which is being very enjoyably presented for me. That being said I also grinned to see both the tsun quarrel between Touka and Uka-sama and Sumizone fly off the handle in exasperation. Good for her! The ED is another one of those brilliantly done combos of visuals and audio for me - fits the bill perfectly. ^^ __________________