(L) Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou [WN]

[bones]

Originally Posted by omegasereon

Yeah it was pretty much implied.

Isn't this a harem light novel, if the protagonist had sex, there would be no implying whatsoever, it would be more like being hit on the head with a brick.

[bludvein]

Cmon, this discussion is going in a weird direction.

Yue's auto-regen does have a derived skill called pain manipulation. Considering she can think and plan while melting from acid in the Hydra fight, she must be able turn off pain receptors.

Originally Posted by bones

Isn't this a harem light novel, if the protagonist had sex, there would be no implying whatsoever, it would be more like being hit on the head with a brick.

How about heavily implied? She is called his lover several times and has suggestive scenes, but its not like its explicit.

[Kadi]

Shia and Tio watched them go at it for whoever-you-believe-in's sake... okay, that was in an omake part. There was proof before that. And come to think of it, wasn't there that inn-girl-cum-ninja-spy in that other town even earlier that wanted to watch them do it?

[bones]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Cmon, this discussion is going in a weird direction.

Yue's auto-regen does have a derived skill called pain manipulation. Considering she can think and plan while melting from acid in the Hydra fight, she must be able turn off pain receptors.



How about heavily implied? She is called his lover several times and has suggestive scenes, but its not like its explicit.

Originally Posted by Kadi

Shia and Tio watched them go at it for whoever-you-believe-in's sake... okay, that was in an omake part. There was proof before that. And come to think of it, wasn't there that inn-girl-cum-ninja-spy in that other town even earlier that wanted to watch them do it?

No explicit sex scenes needed, all that is needed is a declaration by Hajime and Yue that they had sex.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by Kadi

Shia and Tio watched them go at it for whoever-you-believe-in's sake... okay, that was in an omake part. There was proof before that. And come to think of it, wasn't there that inn-girl-cum-ninja-spy in that other town even earlier that wanted to watch them do it?

She definitely tried to get a show, but never managed because Hajime always caught her. She was pretty delusional anyway.

...although your right. Heavily implied is probably understating it. Let's just say Yue is definitely his lover, with Shia getting nothing(because of his commitment to Yue) and Tio is just ignored entirely for the moment. It's actually kinda refreshing that they don't make a big deal out of it.

[Kioras]

Implied is the best way to do it. Can keep implied and not adjust the age groups of the novel anyways.

Besides, with all the stress Yue and Hajime went through together, surviving the end of the first dungeon in close proximity and then having the 2 months alone to unwind, it would almost be unnatural if they did not do it.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Kioras

Implied is the best way to do it. Can keep implied and not adjust the age groups of the novel anyways.

Besides, with all the stress Yue and Hajime went through together, surviving the end of the first dungeon in close proximity and then having the 2 months alone to unwind, it would almost be unnatural if they did not do it.

I think that's probably why I feel bad for all the newer additions to the harem, none of them can compete with the lead that Yue got from the time spent together in Orcus dungeon. I mean even Shia hasn't been in the group more than a month at most has she.

[bones]

Originally Posted by Kioras

Implied is the best way to do it. Can keep implied and not adjust the age groups of the novel anyways.

Besides, with all the stress Yue and Hajime went through together, surviving the end of the first dungeon in close proximity and then having the 2 months alone to unwind, it would almost be unnatural if they did not do it.

No, the benefit of keeping things unclear is so that he can change directions if needed. If this really is a harem story then we will probably start seeing more of the other heroines and less of Yue

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by bones

No, the benefit of keeping things unclear is so that he can change directions if needed. If this really is a harem story then we will probably start seeing more of the other heroines and less of Yue

Except with every chapter that focuses on the harem, it's clear more and more that Yue is the undisputed winner. See the end of recent chapter.

So next chapter is tomorrow right and it's supposed to be hero/classmates side right?

[teejmo]

^Sunday at six pm his time. So that would be three am for me (US Mountain time). And according to the afterword of Part 2 of this three part short story, yeah, the heroes are back. Will Kaori find out that her beloved Hajime is alive and, well, scary (for them; for us, completely awesome)? And will she learn of his new teammates (now that can turn scary)?

[omegasereon]

Originally Posted by teejmo

^Sunday at six pm his time. So that would be three am for me (US Mountain time). And according to the afterword of Part 2 of this three part short story, yeah, the heroes are back. Will Kaori find out that her beloved Hajime is alive and, well, scary (for them; for us, completely awesome)? And will she learn of his new teammates (now that can turn scary)?

She will probably flip out if she finds out he has girls with him.

[blankerer]

wonder if he is going to run into anyone while being called papa

[EvI]

did dreg00-san died? he disappeared and i'm already missing his summaries :´(

[bludvein]

Spoiler for new chapter:

Well, it did go back to the "heroes," but I found their dungeon crawling kind of boring tbh. Kind of feel bad for Kaori though. Spends months looking for even a trace of Hajime being alive, while Hajime himself didn't care enough to even send a letter. Ouch. Her stats/skills are pretty impressive, exceeding even Kouki's in magic. Unfortunately its nowhere near the stats of Hajime's party.

So here comes the humbling maybe? A real devil better not be disappointing. Maybe she will off the bastard for us.

[omegasereon]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Spoiler for new chapter:

Well, it did go back to the "heroes," but I found their dungeon crawling kind of boring tbh. Kind of feel bad for Kaori though. Spends months looking for even a trace of Hajime being alive, while Hajime himself didn't care enough to even send a letter. Ouch.

So here comes the humbling maybe? A real devil better not be disappointing. Maybe she will off the bastard for us.

Spoiler for :

Well their stats are underwhelming haha. Still no match for Hajime's party. Yeah so from what I got, they can't get pass 90 floors or something? Then they saw brand new demon blood and some woman demon came out.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by omegasereon

Spoiler for :

Well their stats are underwhelming haha. Still no match for Hajime's party. Yeah so from what I got, they can't get pass 90 floors or something? Then they saw brand new demon blood and some woman demon came out.

Spoiler for Orcus Dungeon:

Do we even know much about the dungeon floors Hajime covered? He mentioned multiple times that the Abyss seemed to be not even a proper part of the dungeon and we skipped over a ton of floors with lines like, "together with Yue, they made it past 10 more floors" etc.

[Guest2]

Cheese look at their numerous cheating skills. Makes me want to go and actually finish some of the Tales RPGs I have.

And its kind of obvious their stats aren't as good as Hajime's group since Hajime's group includes people who have cleared nearly twice as many dungeon levels and been alive for a few hundreds of years more. The stats they've gained in just 4 months is just as ridiculous as the current stats Hajime's group currently have from their much greater experience(excluding the monster-eater Hajime ofcourse).

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Guest2

Cheese look at their numerous cheating skills. Makes me want to go and actually finish some of the Tales RPGs I have.

And its kind of obvious their stats aren't as good as Hajime's group since Hajime's groups includes people who have cleared nearly twice as many dungeon levels and been alive for a few hundreds of years more. The stats they've gained in just 4 months is just as ridiculous as the current stats Hajime's group currently have from their much greater experience(excluding the monster-eater Hajime ofcourse).

You made me realize an interesting point. Have we ever been told the level limit on non human races? We were told level 100 was the limit for humans specifically.

Also you say that about the class but, the class is actually higher leveled than some of Hajime's group, but Hajime's group is still strong in stats. Shia is only level 40 after all. Yue is only 75 too which puts her around the class' level.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by Guest2

Cheese look at their numerous cheating skills. Makes me want to go and actually finish some of the Tales RPGs I have.

And its kind of obvious their stats aren't as good as Hajime's group since Hajime's groups includes people who have cleared nearly twice as many dungeon levels and been alive for a few hundreds of years more. The stats they've gained in just 4 months is just as ridiculous as the current stats Hajime's group currently have from their much greater experience(excluding the monster-eater Hajime ofcourse).

Shia is 16 and Yue was sealed for over 300 of her 323 years, so that's not really an excuse. They just won the superpower lottery.

I just look at it as a perspective check. The "heroes" are supposed to be cheats in this world, so how does it compare to the protagonists? Their skills certainly show lots of training, especially Kaori's, but I don't see these cheats you keep talking about. Its pretty much what you expect of their class' in a RPG.

@Xacual

The levels don't really mean anything. Meld(who is still a pretty cool guy btw) could be lvl 100 and still get his ass kicked easily for instance. Its based on growth limit divided by 100(regardless of race). Having a lower level with comparable stats is actually much better(unless you're Hajime, who broke the system), because it means your limit is much higher. Shia has superior stats at about half the level. The class' stat growth on the other hand will stop when they reach 100, barring unorthodox circumstances like eating demons.

[Guest2]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Shia is 16 and Yue was sealed for over 300 of her 323 years, so that's not really an excuse. They just won the superpower lottery.

I just look at it as a perspective check. The "heroes" are supposed to be cheats in this world, so how does it compare to the protagonists? Their skills certainly show lots of training, especially Kaori's, but I don't see these cheats you keep talking about.

I think you've misunderstood the point. Yue has greater stats because she has defeated more enemies in the past as well as together with Hajime than Koukis group has in their 4 months.

And I am quite surprised you don't consider all those resistance, magic enhancing and physical skills as cheats, despite even Hajime calling them so, since they had most of them from level 1. This is just the first time we as the reader has seen some others. Although as you mention in Kaori's case some were earned.

And you do understand its just an update an intro and only seems boring because its just a lead up to the next exciting event. Alot of the boring fights were skipped in Hajime's case, but with 14 people with such impressive and varied defensive, support and offensive abilities there is less of a struggle required, if compared to Hajime's group's case.