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Old 2014-03-21, 22:36   Link #1881
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On the other hand she calls Kojou by his first name, though might only be her making a bad mistake... The other thing bothering me in that direction is that she said her maiden name is himeragi >>
If she is Koujou's daughter, she could have gotten calling him by his first name from Nagisa since she also calls Koujou by his name even though he's her older brother.
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Old 2014-03-22, 00:52   Link #1882
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If she is Koujou's daughter, she could have gotten calling him by his first name from Nagisa since she also calls Koujou by his name even though he's her older brother.
I think it is his daughter since she has vampiric urges and looks like Yukina. She also called Nagisa Aunt Nagisa. Unless Kojou has any other siblings, which could be possible, she should be his daughter. I don't read any of the material so I may or may not be right.
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Old 2014-03-22, 01:02   Link #1883
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On the other hand she calls Kojou by his first name, though might only be her making a bad mistake... The other thing bothering me in that direction is that she said her maiden name is himeragi >>
That is actually a clue that she is Kojou's daughter. Kojou's entire family calls him "Kojou-kun". His mother does that and Nagisa also does that. By the way, Nagisa also calls her mom "Mimori-chan". And that with maiden name Himeragi was a reply to Kojou asking her who she is since she is not Himeragi.

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Unless Kojou has any other siblings, which could be possible, she should be his daughter. I don't read any of the material so I may or may not be right.
Then this hypothetic other sibling would also would need to be a vampire.
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Old 2014-03-22, 01:18   Link #1884
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There's one line that bothers me (and I think a few more in the episode).
"It's just wasn't like what I'd heard..."
Doesn't this seem to imply that Kojou is dead in the future? And Yukina told her daughter what her father is like, but left out certain (embarrassing) details?

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^ "Doc" as in "Doctor". Chances are Asagi becomes a doctor or gets a doctorate. She's obviously smart enough to.
Doc can also refer to scientists. Asagi most likely made the time machine for happy half vampire terminator girl.
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Old 2014-03-22, 01:52   Link #1885
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Doesn't this seem to imply that Kojou is dead in the future? And Yukina told her daughter what her father is like, but left out certain (embarrassing) details?
Notice that she only mentioned that when she realized how close Yukina and Kojou were, which suggests she was misinformed about the nature of their relationship at that time.

BTW, when she was mentioning an indecent person, she wasn't talking about Kojou.
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Old 2014-03-22, 01:53   Link #1886
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There's one line that bothers me (and I think a few more in the episode).
"It's just wasn't like what I'd heard..."
Doesn't this seem to imply that Kojou is dead in the future? And Yukina told her daughter what her father is like, but left out certain (embarrassing) details?
You are quite perceptive. But I refrain from commenting on this, as I don't think they will completely scrap the ending of the original short story.
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Old 2014-03-22, 02:41   Link #1887
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^ "Doc" as in "Doctor". Chances are Asagi becomes a doctor or gets a doctorate. She's obviously smart enough to.
Not necessarily, there quite characters in sci-fi genre nicknamed that due their heavy association or obsession with a particular science that make them experts in that field.

That said Asagi being called that made me think she was going to grow up to be a hotter and younger version of this slightly scatterbrained guy:



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Notice that she only mentioned that when she realized how close Yukina and Kojou were, which suggests she was misinformed about the nature of their relationship at that time.
It could also be that Kojou a bit different in her time period too.
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Old 2014-03-22, 05:55   Link #1888
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SO that girl is probably Himeragi and Kojou's daughter. How she calls Nagisa Aunt. How she says that Natsuki is the same as she hasn't grown. How she says that Yukina and Kojou's relationship is a bit different as if she was informed by someone *her parents* about their relationship. Finally she calls Asagi Doc and Asagi has a bright future so that' probably what she would become in the future.
But getting turned on because of a girl, that's so like Kojou-kun's daughter
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Old 2014-03-22, 08:16   Link #1889
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That's amazing, I said in the last episode that the girl on the boat looked just like Yukina and now there are two Yukinas heh
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Old 2014-03-22, 11:51   Link #1890
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That's amazing, I said in the last episode that the girl on the boat looked just like Yukina and now there are two Yukinas heh
For me, I still believe that it was Nagisa. And BTW, that Terminator Vampire Yukina would arrive naked if that happened so it's impossible.
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Old 2014-03-22, 20:07   Link #1891
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I wonder... Future Himeragi, that somehow lost hr memories, Himeragi's daughter or paralell world himeragi....



On the other hand she calls Kojou by his first name, though might only be her making a bad mistake... The other thing bothering me in that direction is that she said her maiden name is himeragi >>
Short story points out that the only people that call him Kojou-kun are his family members so it was a mistake out of habit on her part

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SO that girl is probably Himeragi and Kojou's daughter. How she calls Nagisa Aunt. How she says that Natsuki is the same as she hasn't grown. How she says that Yukina and Kojou's relationship is a bit different as if she was informed by someone *her parents* about their relationship. Finally she calls Asagi Doc and Asagi has a bright future so that' probably what she would become in the future.
But getting turned on because of a girl, that's so like Kojou-kun's daughter
There is only one person who would inform her about her parents and leave out all the details in a tsun fit right Yukina. As for being turned on because of a girl, just remember Kojou's mother.
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Old 2014-03-22, 20:14   Link #1892
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That's amazing, I said in the last episode that the girl on the boat looked just like Yukina and now there are two Yukinas heh
The girl on the boat was Nagisa. We've already seen Nagisa be possessed by... something, and control familiars that belong to the fourth progenitor, so that was nothing new. That second point makes it seem fairly obvious just what, or rather who she's possessed by, in my opinion, but whatever.

Anyway, this was interesting, except that I still hear Nyaruko every time I hear Kana Asumi do a role, these days, and it's driving me nuts.
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Old 2014-03-23, 00:00   Link #1893
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Anyway, this was interesting, except that I still hear Nyaruko every time I hear Kana Asumi do a role, these days, and it's driving me nuts.
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Old 2014-03-23, 01:39   Link #1894
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Anyway, this was interesting, except that I still hear Nyaruko every time I hear Kana Asumi do a role, these days, and it's driving me nuts.
Well, at least she's not acting like Hyouka Kazakiri from Index.

Now then, what will Kojou do with Vatler's rampaging familiar? Sure that he can't beat Vatler yet!
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Old 2014-03-23, 01:57   Link #1895
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That is expected since Silver Link is a small almost new studio and this is their first 24 episode running series. Budget is an issue.
It's Connect's first show, but in theory, they should be capable of much better. To expand, Silver Link basically hired away two J.C. Staff production lines wholesale, so they have a well-oiled machine (with solid animator connections and way more experience than the new group managing Sakurasou/Railgun S/Witch Craft Works) in place. We can only assume that Warner hired them for this reason.
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Old 2014-03-23, 14:15   Link #1896
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Even though I got spoiled about this girl's identity earlier this week, anyone who still thinks this is not the daughter of Koujou and Yukina are either not paying attention, or in heavy denial that these two will get married and have a child. Seriously, all the clues she gave us indicate specifically in that direction:

- Looks exactly like Yukina, but with blue eyes and slightly bigger bust size
- Has the same immortality curse and vampire powers as Koujou, down to getting nosebleeds when she gets too excited (not yet sure if that's sexually or in general)
- Has the same weapon as Yukina, but gold-colored rather than silver
- Can summon a monster similar to Koujou's
- Has Himeragi as her maiden name
- Knows Yukina's personality very well, probably better than anyone else
- Leaves various clues that she's from the future
- Calls Nagisa her aunt (probably the biggest clue of them all).

I'm not sure if we get to see why she's there, and what that dragon wants (though I can take a wild guess about the latter, seeing as how it stabbed the Yukiina lookalike in the chest without hesitation, not to mention that the girl seemed to know it was after her mother).

And I think this story is heavily inspired by the Terminator franchise, given the many references to it.
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Old 2014-03-23, 14:21   Link #1897
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Even though I got spoiled about this girl's identity earlier this week, anyone who still thinks this is not the daughter of Koujou and Yukina are either not paying attention, or in heavy denial that these two will get married and have a child. Seriously, all the clues she gave us indicate specifically in that direction:

- Looks exactly like Yukina, but with blue eyes and slightly bigger bust size
- Has the same immortality curse and vampire powers as Koujou, down to getting nosebleeds when she gets too excited (not yet sure if that's sexually or in general)
- Has the same weapon as Yukina, but gold-colored rather than silver
- Can summon a monster similar to Koujou's
- Has Himeragi as her maiden name
- Knows Yukina's personality very well, probably better than anyone else
- Leaves various clues that she's from the future
- Calls Nagisa her aunt (probably the biggest clue of them all).

I'm not sure if we get to see why she's there, and what that dragon wants (though I can take a wild guess about the latter, seeing as how it stabbed the Yukiina lookalike in the chest without hesitation, not to mention that the girl seemed to know it was after her mother).

And I think this story is heavily inspired by the Terminator franchise, given the many references to it.
Dont see kojou marrying yukina though... Most probably out of wedlock...
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Old 2014-03-23, 15:38   Link #1898
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Yeah, I'm not necessarily betting on marriage being involved here. Although, with the anime-original direction this episode went, I'm not sure if they'll show the biggest reason why I think that way...
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Old 2014-03-23, 15:55   Link #1899
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Even though I got spoiled about this girl's identity earlier this week, anyone who still thinks this is not the daughter of Koujou and Yukina are either not paying attention, or in heavy denial that these two will get married and have a child. Seriously, all the clues she gave us indicate specifically in that direction:

- Looks exactly like Yukina, but with blue eyes and slightly bigger bust size
- Has the same immortality curse and vampire powers as Koujou, down to getting nosebleeds when she gets too excited (not yet sure if that's sexually or in general)
- Has the same weapon as Yukina, but gold-colored rather than silver
- Can summon a monster similar to Koujou's
- Has Himeragi as her maiden name
- Knows Yukina's personality very well, probably better than anyone else
- Leaves various clues that she's from the future
- Calls Nagisa her aunt (probably the biggest clue of them all).

I'm not sure if we get to see why she's there, and what that dragon wants (though I can take a wild guess about the latter, seeing as how it stabbed the Yukiina lookalike in the chest without hesitation, not to mention that the girl seemed to know it was after her mother).

And I think this story is heavily inspired by the Terminator franchise, given the many references to it.
Not immortality. All second generation vampires have super jacked regenerative abilities. Remember how Vatler got whacked around by Alresche Glacies? It was way worse than how the anime made it out to be. Half his body was destroyed and look at him now. He's good as new. I doubt a hole in this girl's stomach is actually gonna stop her.

I think this dragon may be a reaction to whatever spell this new girl used to travel back in time.
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Old 2014-03-23, 20:26   Link #1900
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So Kojou and Yukina will finally stop avoiding the issue and get together in the future. Not that anyone should be surprised.

Oh time travel plots, why can't you ever be not stupid?

Seriously Kojou how dense can you be? First you can't answer a simple question correctly then it takes you great pains to partially see through the "disguise". I mean show was barely trying to hide it.

Sorry Reina you can't call someone unreasonable for not wanting to listen to you, when the first thing you do is attack them. I mean, what was even the point? Is that some kind of teenage rebellion thing?

Yeah the "leaving" plot just doesn't work here, especially since with one episode left we know it's going to get warped up very quickly.

This is kinda weak way to end a series, but I guess the nature of the adaptation doesn't allow for a grand finale.
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