Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Q&A/Discussion about Character Powers

[Voceane]

Originally Posted by BW95

In other words, the brain tells the mind the status of the body. If we take this to be true, then if the brain is destroyed then the soul would have no way of realizing that the body has been damaged and Self-Regrowth will not trigger.

There is a lot more than you think in this little sentence.

- We know than Miya's ability affect pushion and modify there relationship to alter the personnality.
- When Miya modify the personality of Tatsuya she remove the emotion part and transform this part into a calculation area and she establish a link between Tatsuya and Miyuki.

Now try to imagine what will become of Miyuki's pushions if her body is destroy. (No, No please no rotten egg )
If you follow what the USNA think Miyuki's Pushions will follow the link and go to Tatsuya.
With this pushions, Tatsuya will obtain the calculation area and the ability of Miyuki and this will be the end of (the world) the artificial magician.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by Guest2

That V10 passage never mentioned about just reading sequences, it’s the observation field that Tatsuya was talking about when he mentioned he normally operates it unconsciously. And it was only when he started describing consciously expanding his awareness in this link space, that he mentioned the problem with healing. .

Yes they didn’t talk about reading sequences but everytime he actually used it to expand his field of vision it was a conscious act and he needed to be cautious so that the others wouldn’t notice. I don’t remember Tatsuya using ES like he did in V10 without concentration.

Yes, but its not pain that activates his auto restore, its when his body drops below a certain state. It could be from info from the 5 senses fed by the brain or it could be an assessment from his unconscious use of his observation field, which doesn't involve info fed from the body and brain. Maybe something like how he immediately assessed Mari's condition when she was injured in v3.

Even if it is not pain which activates it, when he feels pain, it’s because of his brain and even when they tried to make him feel asleep, his brain was affected. Without his brain Self Regrowth wouldn't work.

Spoiler for Quote:

A danger signal flashed across his brain.
His physical body plainly was behaving abnormally.
[Physical functioning dropping abnormally]
Sleepiness itself is not something that poses an obstruction to combat
ability.
However, when unable to awaken based on one's own consciousness,
then this drowsiness became an impairment to combat ability.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Guest2

Okay, the experiment gave the parasites the opportunity to cross dimensions. But I'm sorry, you'll have to be more specific about why this is relevant to the argument that Tatsuya couldn't revive if his brain was vapourised?

Tatsuya cannot revive from death if vapourising his head instantly kills him. But my point centers around the possibility of restoration before the state of 'death' occurs, since in the vamp arc the novel shows only a mind/pushion information body with an MCA, is vital for magic, a physical brain or body isn't necessary, Tatsuya has a sensory ability and observation field that works separate to the body's 5 senses that he states he normally operates unconsciously, and the existence of theories that a living human's mind is an incorporeal spirit information body that exists in an alternate dimension.

As I stated before, if Tatsuya were to have his head vaporized, then you claim that he would still be able to cast magic since it only requires a pushion information body, However, as seen with the parasites, even they couldn't interfere with the world in any way without a black hole experiment going on somewhere to bring them back into the world or activate them. So Tatsuya's pushion information body would simply go dormant just as the parasites were before the experiment.

Originally Posted by Voceane

There is a lot more than you think in this little sentence.

- We know than Miya's ability affect pushion and modify there relationship to alter the personnality.
- When Miya modify the personality of Tatsuya she remove the emotion part and transform this part into a calculation area and she establish a link between Tatsuya and Miyuki.

Actually, that's something weird. Miya's magic has been described as non-systematic and technically all magic is non-systematic, which the novel never states unless a magic is only non-systematic.

[SoboSobo]

Originally Posted by BW95

Actually, Lina can do something like that. Her attack was impossible to dodge once aimed, which isn't difficult and Elemental Sight is an active skill as proven when Lina first attacked him with Heavy Metal Burst.

you are right, and what i said it wasn't the lina was not capable of hurting him. I only said that the fight at least on his side was not very serious.
In the first fight with lina he concealed his presence and was sitting 10 meters from lina and she had no idea that someone was there,not to mention he can snipe anyone with magic at insane distances.Knowing this to facts his choice of engaging face to face its odd if he was seriously trying to kill her.

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Well, no. Tatsuya does always his best during his fights, the problem is that he must hide that he can use Decomposition magic. Excepted his fights against Hanzo, that Blanche guy, No Head Dragon, Maya (), USNA soldiers and Tomitsuka.
Tatsuya never fought a magician that he would be able to beat easily , he is certainly stronger than Miyuki for example but he will never be able to beat her with ease. He won against opponents of this caliber mostly by having a better sense of fighting and outsmarting them with his strategies. To hit him is not that difficult for opponents like that, besides, we have seen magicians who have actually never got hurt, Miyuki has never been hit but she is not untouchable. Everytime he fought an opponent of his caliber both had restrictions because they don't have the intent to kill. In V11 Lina was authorized to kill him and was able to do so but she restricted herself.

Maya already knows about his magic.
The thing that makes a struggle for tatsuya in combat is the fact he tries to keep his magic a secret and that limitation dose`t give him to much room to work it.
I never said he would defeat magicians of his caliber with no effort and he did have to rely on better strategies and better sense of fighting because he didn`t want to reveal his decomposition magic and his ES.As for miyuki never getting hurt is because she never actually had to fight a life death battle on her own, if she ever was in any danger of being hurt tatsuya would step in to prevent that even if it mean for him to take the damage.
And yes lina was authorized to kill him but tatsuya had no such intentions. Don`t you find it odd he would chose to go face to face with lina when he knows he will be at the disadvantage.

Originally Posted by Rava

So basically, you didn't understand what I said.

They make a big fuss about Decomposition being one of the most difficult magics to use. Hence where the "skill" comment comes from. Tatsuya is the only one in-story who is skilled with Decomposition Magics, due to his nature.

It's also incredibly irritating to keep writing "Elemental Sight (or an equivalent ability)" every single time someone mentions Elemental Sight in that manner, especially since there HASN'T been another ability introduced yet that can substitute for it. So don't split hairs over that.

Finally, since you seemed to have missed it, the point being made was that Tatsuya can still use Gram Dispersion without Elemental Sight if the magic took a long enough time to cast to be identified in a more mundane manner anyway. Elemental Sight simply makes the magic more feasible for regular use, but it's still possible for someone (a.k.a. Lina) to cast fast enough for it to still not be enough.

I might`ve missed the point but so did you. The ability to read activation/magic sequences is due to him having ES(that's obvious) but also his genius intelligence.Seeing the activation sequence is one think but understating it is another matter, most likely that is why he has such an intelligence level to support the ES.
Also i think ES has passive component as well, we seen when they are on school ground's tatsuya always has an "eye" on miyuki no matter where she is and the school equipment doesn't register that as a active spell, but at the same time he tries not to use ES actively because it will be registered by the monitoring equipment.
And also in regards to lina, yes its true that her casting speed was faster then him reading the sequences and using Gram Dispersion. But that's not the point i was trying to make.
The point i was trying to make was is Gram Dispersion can also be used on a spell that is already activated.In that battle tatsuya activated gram dispersion but he canceled it mid way. He knew that his magic would not stop Lina HMB from activating it but it would`ve destroyed the spell after activation and causing more damage then the spell itself.
"As her first shot had reduced his right arm to cinders, he interrupted Gram Dispersion in order to avoid receiving greater damage; if he destroyed the information that coalesced it into a beam, the plasma would disperse"v11 ch 13 near the end.
That was the point i was trying to make that gram dispersion has 2 uses, one that can stop a spell from being activated in the first place and the second to destroy a spell after it had been activated.

Originally Posted by BW95

Tatsuya flat out stated that he only won because of her naivete and that he had lost the moment Brionac was pointed at him. Its not that he wasn't fighting seriously, but he chose only to knock her unconscious rather than kill her when he had the chance in her moment of weakness.

Yes its true it was part of his plan to play on her naivete more likely.He most likely knew that her orders where to capture him and killing was a last resort.
What i mean by tatsuya not fighting seriously is he never intended to kill her from the beginning.
Let's think back, he is able to kill people with Mist Dispersal at over 1000 m away(the sniper incident,the no head dragon HQ when he eliminated magicians from the roof top of a building hundreds of meters away), he can conceal his presence and be undetected(his first fight with lina when he stood 10 meter away from her in a tree and she had no idea he was there), also he knew Lina was a strategic class magicians and her using HMB was a possibility, also he knew what lina was capable in terms of magic power after seeing her fight the traitors and her sister.
Giving his level of intelligence, and his level of strategic thinking if he was dead serious of killing lina don`t u think its strange he would pick a face to face battle where he knew lina would have an advantage? If he was dead serious in killing her he would've never go face to face.

Originally Posted by IceHism

When you mention it like this, it sounds like there really isn't a drawback to him using ES... If there is no visual indication, then why would it be classified? Unless there is but no one knows what the heck he is doing so its okay.

Its true it has no visual indication, but Mist dispersal or Gram dispersion doesn't have one either, that's why every he is using Gram dispersion everyone that doesn't know the spell are dumb struck wondering What the hell just happened.
But ES being an sensory type magic it will register on the monitoring equipment.
That's why he tries to keep it a secret.

Originally Posted by Voceane

- We know than Miya's ability affect pushion and modify there relationship to alter the personnality.
- When Miya modify the personality of Tatsuya she remove the emotion part and transform this part into a calculation area and she establish a link between Tatsuya and Miyuki.

She didn't removed the emotion center, she altered the limbic system in order to make room for the magic calculation model.Most likely reducing the activity of the limbic system to a minimum thus preventing him for feeling strong emotions with the exception of those emotions he already have(like those for miyuki).
The link between tatsuya and myuki is not because of that, its because the seal maya put on him by using half of miyuki magic power to seal half of tatsuya magic power.And that was mostly because when he first used MB he didn't need a CAD he just flash cast it, during the battle of okinawa after his sister got hurt.
Not stated exactly if he's unable to cast MB without a cad while his power is sealed and "third eye" doesn't count since that cad is more a targeting means then an actual help to cast the spell.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

you are right, and what i said it wasn't the lina was not capable of hurting him. I only said that the fight at least on his side was not very serious.
In the first fight with lina he concealed his presence and was sitting 10 meters from lina and she had no idea that someone was there,not to mention he can snipe anyone with magic at insane distances.Knowing this to facts his choice of engaging face to face its odd if he was seriously trying to kill her.

And yes lina was authorized to kill him but tatsuya had no such intentions. Don`t you find it odd he would chose to go face to face with lina when he knows he will be at the disadvantage.

I might`ve missed the point but so did you. The ability to read activation/magic sequences is due to him having ES(that's obvious) but also his genius intelligence.Seeing the activation sequence is one think but understating it is another matter, most likely that is why he has such an intelligence level to support the ES.
Also i think ES has passive component as well, we seen when they are on school ground's tatsuya always has an "eye" on miyuki no matter where she is and the school equipment doesn't register that as a active spell, but at the same time he tries not to use ES actively because it will be registered by the monitoring equipment.
And also in regards to lina, yes its true that her casting speed was faster then him reading the sequences and using Gram Dispersion. But that's not the point i was trying to make.
The point i was trying to make was is Gram Dispersion can also be used on a spell that is already activated.In that battle tatsuya activated gram dispersion but he canceled it mid way. He knew that his magic would not stop Lina HMB from activating it but it would`ve destroyed the spell after activation and causing more damage then the spell itself.
"As her first shot had reduced his right arm to cinders, he interrupted Gram Dispersion in order to avoid receiving greater damage; if he destroyed the information that coalesced it into a beam, the plasma would disperse"v11 ch 13 near the end.
That was the point i was trying to make that gram dispersion has 2 uses, one that can stop a spell from being activated in the first place and the second to destroy a spell after it had been activated.

Yes its true it was part of his plan to play on her naivete more likely.He most likely knew that her orders where to capture him and killing was a last resort.
What i mean by tatsuya not fighting seriously is he never intended to kill her from the beginning.
Let's think back, he is able to kill people with Mist Dispersal at over 1000 m away(the sniper incident,the no head dragon HQ when he eliminated magicians from the roof top of a building hundreds of meters away), he can conceal his presence and be undetected(his first fight with lina when he stood 10 meter away from her in a tree and she had no idea he was there), also he knew Lina was a strategic class magicians and her using HMB was a possibility, also he knew what lina was capable in terms of magic power after seeing her fight the traitors and her sister.
Giving his level of intelligence, and his level of strategic thinking if he was dead serious of killing lina don`t u think its strange he would pick a face to face battle where he knew lina would have an advantage? If he was dead serious in killing her he would've never go face to face.

At the time, due to his close proximity to Lina, casting a spell would have alerted her to his location. If it was as you said and Tatsuya could have sniped her then, there was no reason for him not to end it there. He could have just hit her with Mist Dispersal and knocked her out. He didn't do this because he clearly couldn't.

He chose to follow her because letting her run loose to attack him later would be an even bigger disadvantage.

As for ES, his genius is also an effect of his mental remodeling, which gave him a perfect memory.

[SoboSobo]

Originally Posted by BW95

At the time, due to his close proximity to Lina, casting a spell would have altered her to his location. If it was as you said and Tatsuya could have sniped her then, there was no reason for him not to end it there. He could have just hit her with Mist Dispersal and knocked her out. He didn't do this because he clearly couldn't.

He chose to follow her because letting her run loose to attack him later would be an even bigger disadvantage.

As for ES, his genius is also an effect of his mental remodeling, which gave him a perfect memory.

If you read the novel he clearly had no intention of killing lina. Besides being her friend, tatsuya identified with her on many levels, both being same age and dragged into the military because they where capable of using strategic rank magics, and both being very powerful magicians. Also lina struggled with the same problems as tatsuya was regarding who they were and the fact they were used as weapons, and also lina was struggling about being a normal human with feelings or a weapon with no feelings.
She is kinda in love with tatsuya, hence why she had a difficult time in fighting him.
Also is stated that after he took out the Strategic magicians(the name escapes me something lyu ......) in Scorched Halloween the power balance of the world shifted.And he knew that killing another Strategic magician will cause far greater problems at an world level not to mention creaet tensions between Japan and USNA.

Yes the mental remodeling gave him a perfect memory but you are confusing memory with intelligence. having a good memory doesn't only helps you remembering things the genius intellect(which most likely was born with) helps him understand the way of things. to put it in another way his memory helps him to remember a magic sequence but his intellect allows him to understand what that sequence works thus allowing him to know what spell it is and how the spell works.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

Maya already knows about his magic.
The thing that makes a struggle for tatsuya in combat is the fact he tries to keep his magic a secret and that limitation dose`t give him to much room to work it.
I never said he would defeat magicians of his caliber with no effort and he did have to rely on better strategies and better sense of fighting because he didn`t want to reveal his decomposition magic and his ES.As for miyuki never getting hurt is because she never actually had to fight a life death battle on her own, if she ever was in any danger of being hurt tatsuya would step in to prevent that even if it mean for him to take the damage.
And yes lina was authorized to kill him but tatsuya had no such intentions. Don`t you find it odd he would chose to go face to face with lina when he knows he will be at the disadvantage.

I didn't say that Maya doesn't know his magic, just that he would beat he easily because of the bad match up. Tatsuya uses ES for all his magics but he doesn't go into Link Space mode everytime. And he doesn't hesitate to use Decomposition magic when he is alone, he even used it in public once.
Tatsuya encountered life or death situations but all the guys he beat where fodders, all 1st high students faced life or death situations at Yokohama and Miyuki hadn't been hurt. Let's count and analyze his fights:
-Hanzo: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-Blanche Leader: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-8th high: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-3rd high: Only Masaki could beat him Georges would get stomped. Power was limited and it wasn't a life or death situation, just a game. Tatsuya could not use Decomposition, Gram Dispersion but he needed to go to LS mode for a brief instant, Masaki could not use Rupture, powerful spells and his CAD was low level.
-Sayuri's attackers: Never had a chance and never will, it was a life or death situation but his opponents were low level.
-Bunch of weak soldiers: Stomped.
- Lu Gonghu: Deadly fight but he was injured and fighting against 3 of the strongest magicians of 1st high. He was the only worthy opponent of this arc but never fought alone, poor guy.
-Lina(1st fight): Both never planned to kill each other and he outsmarted her, he used Decomposition but catching Lina wasn't an easy task.
-USNA soldiers: A little more difficult because they were augmented magicians but they never had a chance.
-Lina 2nd fight: Lina never wanted to kill him, they were just idle threats and he knew it. He outsmarted her and used Decomposition to knock her out. Lina had the power advantage here. If she had wanted to kill him, he would have been killed.
-Parasites: Stomped, of course.
-Tomitsuka: He used Decomposition, the fight was difficult but only because he had handicaps, otherwise he would have destroyed Tomitsuka.
-Bunch of weak magicians: Stomped.
-Training with yakumo: He never wins but the fights are mostly HTH and they don't fight to death.
Also saying that he can use MD at 1000 meters is just too easy, it's not as if his opponents can't dodge the attack. When I am talking about a serious fight it's a fight with both opponents face to face. Saying that he would not fight because an inconvenient situation is not important at all. The situation was serious, if he has to fight he will fight. If he runs away, Lina will pursue him.

And his intelligence doesn't help him to read sequences. He can remember the sequences but that's only because of the artificial MCA.

[Rava]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

[...] I might`ve missed the point but so did you. The ability to read activation/magic sequences is due to him having ES(that's obvious) but also his genius intelligence.Seeing the activation sequence is one think but understating it is another matter, most likely that is why he has such an intelligence level to support the ES.
Also i think ES has passive component as well, we seen when they are on school ground's tatsuya always has an "eye" on miyuki no matter where she is and the school equipment doesn't register that as a active spell, but at the same time he tries not to use ES actively because it will be registered by the monitoring equipment.
And also in regards to lina, yes its true that her casting speed was faster then him reading the sequences and using Gram Dispersion. But that's not the point i was trying to make.
The point i was trying to make was is Gram Dispersion can also be used on a spell that is already activated.In that battle tatsuya activated gram dispersion but he canceled it mid way. He knew that his magic would not stop Lina HMB from activating it but it would`ve destroyed the spell after activation and causing more damage then the spell itself.
[...]

If that is your point, then yes, I would have missed that because it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making at all. You shouldn't have quoted me in the first place.

[SoboSobo]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

I didn't say that Maya doesn't know his magic, just that he would beat he easily because of the bad match up. Tatsuya uses ES for all his magics but he doesn't go into Link Space mode everytime. And he doesn't hesitate to use Decomposition magic when he is alone, he even used it in public once.
Tatsuya encountered life or death situations but all the guys he beat where fodders, all 1st high students faced life or death situations at Yokohama and Miyuki hadn't been hurt. Let's count and analyze his fights:
-Hanzo: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-Blanche Leader: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-8th high: Never had a chance and never will, stomped.
-3rd high: Only Masaki could beat him Georges would get stomped. Power was limited and it wasn't a life or death situation, just a game. Tatsuya could not use Decomposition, Gram Dispersion but he needed to go to LS mode for a brief instant, Masaki could not use Rupture, powerful spells and his CAD was low level.
-Sayuri's attackers: Never had a chance and never will, it was a life or death situation but his opponents were low level.
-Bunch of weak soldiers: Stomped.
- Lu Gonghu: Deadly fight but he was injured and fighting against 3 of the strongest magicians of 1st high. He was the only worthy opponent of this arc but never fought alone, poor guy.
-Lina(1st fight): Both never planned to kill each other and he outsmarted her, he used Decomposition but catching Lina wasn't an easy task.
-USNA soldiers: A little more difficult because they were augmented magicians but they never had a chance.
-Lina 2nd fight: Lina never wanted to kill him, they were just idle threats and he knew it. He outsmarted her and used Decomposition to knock her out. Lina had the power advantage here. If she had wanted to kill him, he would have been killed.
-Parasites: Stomped, of course.
-Tomitsuka: He used Decomposition, the fight was difficult but only because he had handicaps, otherwise he would have destroyed Tomitsuka.
-Bunch of weak magicians: Stomped.
-Training with yakumo: He never wins but the fights are mostly HTH and they don't fight to death.
Also saying that he can use MD at 1000 meters is just too easy, it's not as if his opponents can't dodge the attack. When I am talking about a serious fight it's a fight with both opponents face to face. Saying that he would not fight because an inconvenient situation is not important at all. The situation was serious, if he has to fight he will fight. If he runs away, Lina will pursue him.

And his intelligence doesn't help him to read sequences. He can remember the sequences but that's only because of the artificial MCA.

i not trying to make him unbeatable, his not. No magicians is unbeatable they all have strengths and weaknesses.I was just trying to point out that in his case he covers his weaknesses very good through tactics, strategies, counter magics etc
As for MD he did used on that sniper, correct me if i`m wrong don`t remember this part very good but i think its mentioned that decomposition magic works in the information dimension, directly interfering with the information body and in the Information Dimension distance is relative. What i mean when he uses Mist dispersal the spell doesn't actually attack the target in the real dimension but rather its attacking is corespondent information body in the information dimension. Doesn't this means that as along as he can target the information body in ID he can use his MD on it regardless of distance the target its in real dimension?
As for Tomitsuka he was surprised by his psion armor counter magic.A powerful magician like takuma(in terms of magic power takuma was better then tatsuya at lest by the official classification) lost in 5 seconds flat and probably any other magician would've to if we think about it.Probably the fact that he was very skilled HTH fighter saved his skin.
As for his fight to lina i guess intelligence plays a very big role in combat as demonstrated so many times before strategy and tactics are more important than the "firepower".
And i didn't said his intelligence helps him remember the sequences i just said it helps him understand them.
As an example its one thing to remember Relativity Theory word by word but its another thing to understand it and put it to use.

Originally Posted by Rava

If that is your point, then yes, I would have missed that because it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making at all. You shouldn't have quoted me in the first place.

sorry for the confusion....

[Rava]

Originally Posted by BW95

[...]

Actually, that's something weird. Miya's magic has been described as non-systematic and technically all magic is non-systematic, which the novel never states unless a magic is only non-systematic.

Do you have a quote for that? Given how it works, I would have expected it to say Systematic, if it was actually categorizing it.

[SoboSobo]

Actually, that's something weird. Miya's magic has been described as non-systematic and technically all magic is non-systematic, which the novel never states unless a magic is only non-systematic.

actually its an outer- systematic mental interference magic same as miyukis cocytus.

And not all magic is non-systematic.

There are Four Great Systems and Eight Major Types which are considered systematic magic.

And Three Exceptions , or magics that are part of the modern magic but not part of the Systematic magic classification:

Perception type magic - like Mayumis Multi-Scope, Tatsuyas Elemental sight, Mizukis eyes etc

Non - Systematic magic - usually the magic that deals with the use of psions, like gram demoliton, cast jamming, Pseudo-Cast jamming, far strike, Contact type gram demolition etc

Outer-Systematic magic : magic that deals with interference with pushions instead of psions. The one we know is the mental interference magic.
Hope this helps!!!

I wonder if decomposition magic belongs to any of this types or its an Type of magic on its own?

[Rava]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

actually its an outer- systematic mental interference magic same as miyukis cocytus.

And not all magic is non-systematic.

There are Four Great Systems and Eight Major Types which are considered systematic magic.

And Three Exceptions , or magics that are part of the modern magic but not part of the Systematic magic classification:

Perception type magic - like Mayumis Multi-Scope, Tatsuyas Elemental sight, Mizukis eyes etc

Non - Systematic magic - usually the magic that deals with the use of psions, like gram demoliton, cast jamming, Pseudo-Cast jamming, far strike, Contact type gram demolition etc

Outer-Systematic magic : magic that deals with interference with pushions instead of psions. The one we know is the mental interference magic.
Hope this helps!!!

I wonder if decomposition magic belongs to any of this types or its an Type of magic on its own?

Oh, Miya. Oops. Brain kept thinking Maya for some stupid reason.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

I wonder if decomposition magic belongs to any of this types or its an Type of magic on its own?

That's a superpower. It works differently from "normal decomposition magic" but the effects are the same and this magic is recorded as extremely difficult for a normal magician. It should be considered as a Dispersal type magic.

[IceHism]

I think the word miracle is the best description of tatsuya's power since his clan doesn't acknowledge it as magic

[SoboSobo]

Originally Posted by IceHism

I think the word miracle is the best description of tatsuya's power since his clan doesn't acknowledge it as magic

besides maya, the butler and probably Kuroba Mitsugu no else knows about his powers or that he is a strategic magician.

And its not that they don`t acknowledge his magic, his not very regarded because he can`t use normal magic very well and they consider that to be a weakness, which will bite their ass hard.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

If you read the novel he clearly had no intention of killing lina.

Yes the mental remodeling gave him a perfect memory but you are confusing memory with intelligence. having a good memory doesn't only helps you remembering things the genius intellect(which most likely was born with) helps him understand the way of things. to put it in another way his memory helps him to remember a magic sequence but his intellect allows him to understand what that sequence works thus allowing him to know what spell it is and how the spell works.

I did, but clearly you don't have a good grasp of Tatsuya's magic. As long as he can target Lina with Mist dispersal, he can easily choose between killing her or just knocking her out with pain. Considering this, there's really is no difference between fighting to kill and fighting to knock out.

I've always thought of genius intellect as passion. He was like his toys when he was a boy.

Originally Posted by Rava

Do you have a quote for that? Given how it works, I would have expected it to say Systematic, if it was actually categorizing it.

She used the forbidden Non-Systematic Magic 'Mental Design Interference', forcibly altering the area in the consciousness, most likely to create strong emotions called the limbic system by inputting a Magic Calculation Model, creating an artificial Magician.

Originally Posted by SoboSobo

actually its an outer- systematic mental interference magic same as miyukis cocytus.

And not all magic is non-systematic.

There are Four Great Systems and Eight Major Types which are considered systematic magic.

And Three Exceptions , or magics that are part of the modern magic but not part of the Systematic magic classification:

Perception type magic - like Mayumis Multi-Scope, Tatsuyas Elemental sight, Mizukis eyes etc

Non - Systematic magic - usually the magic that deals with the use of psions, like gram demoliton, cast jamming, Pseudo-Cast jamming, far strike, Contact type gram demolition etc

Outer-Systematic magic : magic that deals with interference with pushions instead of psions. The one we know is the mental interference magic.
Hope this helps!!!

I wonder if decomposition magic belongs to any of this types or its an Type of magic on its own?

When I said magic, I'm really referring to most spells.

Originally Posted by Echizen777

That's a superpower. It works differently from "normal decomposition magic" but the effects are the same and this magic is recorded as extremely difficult for a normal magician. It should be considered as a Dispersal type magic.

Tatsuya's intrinsic magic "Dissolution", in terms of categorization belongs to a derivative of Separation Magic. It was a combination of "Gather", "Disperse", "Absorb", and "Release", but to be honest, "Release" probably made up the highest percentage.
Thus, he was more adept at Release Systematic Magic.

It's just systematic magic.

[novalysis]

Can Tatsuya ever find a way to interfere and undo effects done by Pushions, such as what Miyu did to Maya 30 years ago?

[BW95]

Originally Posted by novalysis

Can Tatsuya ever find a way to interfere and undo effects done by Pushions, such as what Miyu did to Maya 30 years ago?

He can't even see them. Well, not "see" them, but the thing is unless you got Mizuki's eyes you can't tell the difference between pushions and psions.

[Rava]

Originally Posted by BW95

And volume and chapter? That one's going to need a raw check, because different translators were switching between External/Outer and Non- for some of them. There was similar noise made when Cocytus was initially described.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Rava

And volume and chapter? That one's going to need a raw check, because different translators were switching between External/Outer and Non- for some of them. There was similar noise made when Cocytus was initially described.

Volume 3 chapter 2.