(L) Atelier Escha & Logy

[Marina2]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Well you have to realise that alchemy is like magic.

Like magic though. Alchemists actually tend to not believe in actual magic. XD

Anyway, one thing that I haven't pointed out yet, but the blatant ship teasing between our title characters is even more blatant than it was in the game.

Well, the name says it all... Atelier Escha & Logy

I don't even have to guess..

[Dengar]

I don't believe Starsky & Hutch are lovers. Or Tom & Jerry. Or Laurel & Hardy. Or Alice & Bob. Or Batman & Robin. Or Hansel & Gretel. Or Will & Grace. Do I need to continue?

But enough about that. I mean they're meant to be sort of kind of a couple but not "officially", but this episode is just PACKED with ship tease. I mean it's a noticeably high amount.

[Arkeus]

Originally Posted by Dengar

I don't believe Starsky & Hutch are lovers. Or Tom & Jerry. Or Laurel & Hardy. Or Alice & Bob. Or Batman & Robin. Or Hansel & Gretel. Do I need to continue?

You clearly have problems reading tones and subtext then!

[Marina2]

Originally Posted by Dengar

I don't believe Starsky & Hutch are lovers. Or Tom & Jerry. Or Laurel & Hardy. Or Alice & Bob. Or Batman & Robin. Or Hansel & Gretel. Or Will & Grace. Do I need to continue?

You seems to completly miss my point

My point is that when a show set up two main characters - male & female of different family - and two of them get to know each other and has to work (or doing something else) together. With the series name like Atelier Escha & Logy, It is clear that they will get into the relationship soon.


BTW, all of your given examples are the same sex, natual enemy, partner, brother & sister. Of course they can't be a lover.

[Pellissier]

Originally Posted by Marina2

With the series name like Atelier Escha & Logy, It is clear that they will get into the relationship soon.

Please be aware that the two most intimate scenes of anime episode 1 (at the windmill and after the first successful synthesis) were both anime originals. None of those events happened in the game.

Spoiler for Atelier games' romance philosophy:

I've only played the last 5 Atelier games (the ps3 titles) so I can only talk for those but conceptually speaking, if there's a hint of romance regarding the protagonist(s), it's always implied, and it's never the main point of the story.

It was the same in Atelier Escha & Logy. So, if the anime will take a different direction, it won't be faithful to its source.

[Marina2]

Spoiler for Reply to above, just for save:

Don't destroy my fantasy like that I know that Atelier series is not romance-focused game but I just want to ship them together.

BTW, the current lv of relationship is enough for me in this kind of thow. I don't really mind about romance.

[RRW]

Atelier series DO like to tease. If you set your shipping google at maximum sensitivity. You probably can ship everyone with everyone. Same sex or not.

But yeah they rarely take romance serious. They did thought in ps2 era. But ps3 kinda tone it down

[Kyouka]

i wonder if linca's sisters will be in the anime

[MeoTwister5]

At least 2 PS2 Atelier games actually fulfilled the romance tease IIRC.

[Candyshark]

Damn it! Rieshon, watching her on nicodouga and seeing how scattered she is and then hearing this OP and her performance it is like two different persons.

[tsunade666]

The talk above about romance just destroyed my illusions for this series >_> and here I was squealing like a fan girl with the romance tease of episode 1. I love the subtle romance tease and hope for a fruitition but from what I remember of my playtime in atelier games. I more focus on synthesizing items which is locating materials and finding recipe. Also doing quest. Episode 1 fulfill those things and gave a good hint of romance which I like.

[HandofFate]

the first episode really makes me want to buy the game, so i guess it did its job.

but i don't want to continue watching lol.

Originally Posted by Dengar

I don't believe Starsky & Hutch are lovers. Or Tom & Jerry. Or Laurel & Hardy. Or Alice & Bob. Or Batman & Robin. Or Hansel & Gretel. Or Will & Grace. Do I need to continue?

But enough about that. I mean they're meant to be sort of kind of a couple but not "officially", but this episode is just PACKED with ship tease. I mean it's a noticeably high amount.

I think all your examples are lovers though...

[SeijiSensei]

I agree with Enzo that this was pretty bland. I've obviously heard a lot of high squeaky-voiced females from anime, but I quickly got tired of Rie's performance. And, of course, she had to bump into Logy's stuff in the usual clumsy way moe girls do. She is clearly more competent than that, but I guess the writers worried that the audience would be put off if she began as strong and competent.

I'll give this another episode, but it's not likely to hold my attention for long without some deeper plot.

[ID555]

Darn, they skipped over all the fun-time in the tent.

[Dawnstorm]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

I'll give this another episode, but it's not likely to hold my attention for long without some deeper plot.

Deeper than the first episode? Sure. Deep enough? You be the judge, but I doubt it. The show is sentimental feel-good stuff. It's closer to Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka? than any other series this season, although it does have a plot and "darker" elements (considering that it's feel-good stuff; it's not "dark" at all).

I love it, but I was surprised to see you here. It wouldn't have occured to me to recommend this show to you.

[Marina2]

Ep.2

Gochuumon, and this show make a perfect 'feel good' combo on Thursday.

I like two new characters: Wilbell...something, A magician and her friend, Nio. Another basic class in RPG has appear!!

Female characters in this show are all nice. BTW, I heard that people think Atelier Escha & Logy is the worst game in Atelier series becase there is the male character (Logy) in it.....Really?)

So far, the feeling I get from this show is similar to Aria (Gondora one, not scarlet ammo) and Tamayura. It's kind of show that a person who like "healing" element or "feel-good" stuff can sit through it and enjoy its every momet even if there is almost nothing happen in one ep. but for person who doesn't like will find this kind of anime boring fo sure.

Based on the preview, look like an action stuff will come in the next ep.

[Pellissier]

Wilbell and her antics are a whole lot of fun, and so is Seto Asami voicing her. Also worth noting that Nio is voiced by Ise Mariya. Too bad that in the previous game (Atelier Ayesha, where Wilbell was a primary character and Nio was crucial for the story) the western edition came only with the english dub, so their voices couldn't be heard.

Originally Posted by Marina2

Female characters in this show are all nice. BTW, I heard that people think Atelier Escha & Logy is the worst game is Atelier series becase there is the male character (Logy) in it.....Really?)

Yeah the male character brought a lot of prejudices but, among the ps3 Atelier games, story-wise this is not the worst (nor the best).

Personally I always thought that if an Atelier game was worthy of an anime adaptation, it had to be Atelier Totori, my favourite. It also got a quite touching story.

[Dawnstorm]

Originally Posted by Marina2

BTW, I heard that people think Atelier Escha & Logy is the worst game is Atelier series becase there is the male character (Logy) in it.....Really?

Agree with Pellissier about everything. I think it's sort of silly to dislike the game because of Logy. There's always been a boy like him. In every single game. They just promoted him to protagonist status. I thought it worked fairly well, too, in terms of story.

I also agree that Totori would have made the best anime (I'd go for the normal rather than the "true" ending in an adaption). However, since they're currently promoting the Dusk series (with a new game coming up) Escha to Logy is the obvious choice. I hear people say they should start with the first game, Ayesha, but I actually think this one has more possibilities (including animating parts of the first game via the backstory of some recurring characters - story content is pretty slim, so there might be time for that).

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Aside: since I know the game, I decided to watch the raws weekly to see how much I understand. It's fun. (They actually say "Bitter Leaf". Heh.)

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Spoiler for episode 2:

This episode was fun, too. In terms of adaption I loved how they basically wrapped everything into a streamlined narrative. Unlike last episode (which I thought was perfect) I have some minor quibbles this episode: I'd have liked more emphasis on the village, and I'd have liked to see a less "magical" cure. Also, I thought they portrayed Linca as too cute. She should have been a bit more strict in her behaviour (the way she said good-bye was perfect), a bit more stoic (with an eternal hint of puzzlement), too. Linca/Marion was spot on, but it would have stood out more if she'd been portrayed a bit less... cute, I think.

On the plus side, this is my favourite incarnation of Willbell; better than in either game (though lack of Japanese voice track might bias me against her Ayesha incarnation). Nio was wonderful, too. And it's fun to see them setting up the plot.

Not quite as good an adaption as the first episode, but still spot on.

[jcdietz03]

I think this will make a good adaptation. They can always use:
Crafting montage
Collection montage
Battle montage
as needed to fit the plot they want to fit in episodes. It would be best if they focus on what Escha & Logy can do for the town and what the town can do for them.

[Lina_Inverse]

She saved the village, I don't think you could do that in the game (unless I missed something). Pretty good episode even though most of this was anime original stuff.

Originally Posted by Marina2

Female characters in this show are all nice. BTW, I heard that people think Atelier Escha & Logy is the worst game is Atelier series becase there is the male character (Logy) in it.....Really?)

I think that's just a really vocal minority (at least I hope it is, cause that is a really dumb reason to hate a game), in an official popularity poll he placed 3rd beating Escha at 4th (FYI, Willbell and Linca were 1st and 2nd).
As I Just finished the game today and I can say this is definitely my favourite out of all the PS3 Ateliers so I am really glad this got an anime.