(L+CR) Ryuugajou Nanana no Maizoukin (Nanana's Buried Treasure)

[Sound of Azure]

Is it strange that Tensai is far more appealing to me than Nanana?

I think it's largely because I see Tensai in an active role- doing things. If we get more flashbacks of Nanana's adventures (or she actually does something of note), she might just be more interesting to me. Ah well.

[AC-Phoenix]

Wow - I need to congratulate the Author for surprising me - When she asked him why he isn't reactng I was expecting a comment about her chest - Well at least he broke the Chest-Jokes

[HayashiTakara]

I just wish they stop doing butt shots of the trap... it's a bit uncomfortable

Anywho, a little development with our little blonde genius, other than that... well not much to say. Although, a bit surprising that megane-kun is revealing his true colors so quickly.

[kobester11]

The pacing is too slow... 3rd episode in a 11 episode series and we barely have characters and developments. I swear if next episode they show us another treasure hunting that spans 15 minutes I'm gonna drop this. xpp

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Haak

Episode 3 was considerably better than I expected. I guess I'm still going to have to stick to this one for now. This episode earned my attention.

Well, for me it was not considerably better, but it was better than ep 2 for sure.

Still, I will be dropping this series for one simple and core reason. I simply do not like Nanana, nor do I like what she is willing to put people through (possibly killing them in the process). Making somebody endure being kicked so that they can go somewhere to possibly be killed? Um. No. Not for me.

[suguru]

Originally Posted by Flower

Still, I will be dropping this series for one simple and core reason. I simply do not like Nanana, nor do I like what she is willing to put people through (possibly killing them in the process). Making somebody endure being kicked so that they can go somewhere to possibly be killed? Um. No. Not for me.

I liked the episode a lot overall, but I know what you mean - if, say, Tensai had died trying to get the treasure, wouldn't it be Nanana's fault, for not telling them everything she knew? I can't imagine Juugo going back to the apartment afterwards and laughing it off with "Tensai's dead now, but you're right, not telling us everything sure made treasure hunting more fun!" It's possible she didn't know all the details on what danger they'd face, but there seems to be a disconnect between Nanana's comment before about it being more fun searching without knowing everything, and the fact that without that knowledge you're putting your life at risk.

[com_gwp]

So during that hugging scene

Spoiler for upcoming twist?:

notice that when Jungo was calling the "police" his phone displayed a Matsuri logo. We knew the guy wasn't simply a normal high school student, but that's still quite a game-changer.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Flower

Well, for me it was not considerably better, but it was better than ep 2 for sure.

Still, I will be dropping this series for one simple and core reason. I simply do not like Nanana, nor do I like what she is willing to put people through (possibly killing them in the process). Making somebody endure being kicked so that they can go somewhere to possibly be killed? Um. No. Not for me.

Given that Nanana's introduction as a ghost included dislocating someone's shoulder, I don't see as how violence on her part should be a surprise, pariticularly since she already said she wouldn't be helping him locate the Collection, and there he was asking for help doing so anyway.

Second, I don't think people really understand Nanana's mindset on this. Going into real ruins and risking her life challenging real deathtraps in order to retrieve treasures was what she did for fun. The expectation is that anyone pursuing Nanana's Collection will be going after it with the same mindset, and if they aren't they shouldn't be going after it at all. Those who aren't interested in the risk have no business being there in the first place. No one is forcing them into the ruins at gunpoint that I've seen, and everyone has at least some appreciation for what they're dealing with. They still chose to go in. The fault does not lie with Nanana.

On another note entirely, we don't actually know that that trap was lethal. Given the physics-defying nature of those setups, it is entirely possible that someone who fell would be saved through some means that couldn't be seen while inside the ruin itself, particularly given the fact that the whole thing collapsing and falling down didn't have any effect whatsoever on the floors beneath.

In short, cool off kids. Nanana's characterization works fine, is consistent and logical and good if you pay proper attention to it, you're overreacting to a situation that we don't know was as bad as folks think it is, and lastly this is a comedy: nobody's going to die, no matter the setup.

[Flower]

Well, we will have to disagree on this then. (No biggee.)

I just do not like what I have seen of her, and to be fair it begin way early on with the dislocating of the shoulder - whether he was a willing victim or accepted it or not, etc. it should not even have been an option to begin with in my book).

You are right though - it is, of course, a comedy.

But I do not find that aspect of things as humorous at all, and again, it is not something confined solely to this series. I dislike similar actions in other charas in other series as well, whether male or female, hero or villian, protagonist or side character. It is neither funny or enterzaining for me.

So it is a very personal take on it, and of course not everyone has the same parameters. There are plenty of folks who enjoy and will enjoy this series, close acquaintences and friends of mine among them. But I don't. Just how it is. Not trying to persuade anyone "to my side", just sharing my experience is all.

[FlareKnight]

So far at least it appears these ruins are pretty well secured. Doesn't seem like a person could casually walk into a death trap or anything. Even getting into this one required some extra research ahead of time. I'd say it's pretty crazy for people to be walking into these kinds of situations...but in reality thrill seekers do exist. There are a lot of people who do insane things who seemingly have a death wish. This is just a more fantastical representation.

At this point Nanana does seem to be playing it rather neutrally. She won't outright tell someone where the items are or how to get into the tests, but she won't completely hold back information either.

Right now I don't have much issue with Nanana, since any harm so far has been walked into with open eyes. Both times Juugo pretty well asked for it. Could have refused to ask for the hint or...well given up on coping a feel in the first episode .

Not to say I overly love Nanana's character either. But can't say how well I'd get along with a ghost who's been living in a room and eating pudding ever since her death. Odd personality traits are bound to arise.

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Flower

Well, for me it was not considerably better, but it was better than ep 2 for sure.

Still, I will be dropping this series for one simple and core reason. I simply do not like Nanana, nor do I like what she is willing to put people through (possibly killing them in the process). Making somebody endure being kicked so that they can go somewhere to possibly be killed? Um. No. Not for me.

I'm no fan of Nanana either. In fact I also agree that she's one piece of work. The main reason I liked this episode was because there just seemed to be something about Juugo's chemistry with Tensai that felt quite refreshing.

[Enternal]

About Nanana and how she's behaving, for some reason I don't really condemn her for it.

First, she gathered these treasures through her adventures with her friends and have repeatedly risk their lives to get them. Joining an adventure club to get these treasures is expected that the members will have to face these same types of risk. Which is why she's persistent on the members going through the same risk to get them even at the cost of their lives. Joining the club, you already know what you're getting into so this is no fault of Nanana.

The second thing is considering how dangerous these treasures can be, even Nanana herself probably got killed over the possessions of them, is probably why I get the feeling that Nanana practically has no trust. She puts on an air that she's friendly and stuff but it definitely seems like she trust nobody and for a good reason.

Also, Juugo understanding that Nanana won't help him even though he's also trying to help her find the killer, still went to her for help. But to Nanana, is he really honestly trying to help her? She still does not trust him and therefore only give him the necessary information to get to the treasure location but nothing else. If he's seriously about helping her, through thick and thin, eventually he will help her. If he's dishonest, then eventually he will reveal himself. Also, whether he's honest or not, he still go through the thrill of an adventure just like she did. That's one of the purpose of Nanana's neutral stance on everything.

Even in this episode, you saw how Isshin betrayed everyone even though he was supposed to be their ally. He's been acting all friendly and understanding towards Nanana and the others and yet what happened here? Granted, it's hinted that he's not an enemy and probably had reasons why he did what he did but what if he truly IS a bad guy? Then Nanana's neutral stance is definitely a good thing.

So while I'm not exactly a fan of Nanana, I don't hate her either. In fact, I'm quite interested in how she REALLY feels about everything. Under that face, I feel like she holds a lot of mistrust for people and since she's been dead and hanging around for 10 years inside a room, she probably is crazy now somewhere inside. Hell, she's been killed. She's not going to be trustful of anyone and be nice to them. To be honest, I'm surprised she can still be "nice" enough considering that she died so young and without warning.

One thing that bothered me is how some here are bothered by Nanana's dislocating Juugo's arm (lol). She beats him and then asked him to give up. Well, he decides that he wants to cop a feel so refused to give up and allowed her to dislocate his arm. What exactly is wrong with that? There is nothing wrong there. He wants it, she gave it to him.

EDIT: Also, wow, suspension bridge effect and also shipping bait. Yet I can't resist...

Spoiler for Pictures:

[AC-Phoenix]

Since there are pictures now

Originally Posted by com_gwp

So during that hugging scene

Spoiler for upcoming twist?:

notice that when Jungo was calling the "police" his phone displayed a Matsuri logo. We knew the guy wasn't simply a normal high school student, but that's still quite a game-changer.

Can you please explain how that Matsuri Logo makes him special? - Couldn't find anything useful in that regard on google.

[Esclair]

The ruin traps are getting pretty ridiculous. I'm guessing in the LN they elaborated a lot more on how the spider/sections work. This is basically a Euler circuit problem, where the amount of time to traverse the solution is just the perfect amount of time. The LN probably goes into a bit more a bit more detail as to why Juugo can't just run to the treasure box directly.

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Since there are pictures now


Can you please explain how that Matsuri Logo makes him special? - Couldn't find anything useful in that regard on google.

The thieves in episode 1 had Matsuri logo as part of their calling card I think?

[com_gwp]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Since there are pictures now


Can you please explain how that Matsuri Logo makes him special? - Couldn't find anything useful in that regard on google.

It's the name of the thief gang from the previous episode, and when the "police" showed up it was those same two members again. And fact that the entire interrogation was omitted cannot be mere coincidence.

[R.LocK]

...Gotta love next episode. Check out the web preview.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by com_gwp

It's the name of the thief gang from the previous episode, and when the "police" showed up it was those same two members again. And fact that the entire interrogation was omitted cannot be mere coincidence.

So the conclusion I draw is that Juugo knew that the jewel he found was originally stolen by Matsuri. I suspect how he found out about this was cut out in then adaptation. So in order to get revenge, he contacted them instead of the police. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sherlock Holmes detective deduced their identity somehow after seeing them.

[jeroz]

Nanana is the DM, the quest giver. You either play along with her games or you don't. Easy as that. The characters in the show do, and that's all that matters, otherwise there will be no story to tell at all.

[Anime Online]

If I were to tell you to go tightrope walking across the Niagara Falls without a safety harness and your reward for completing that feat is a chocolate donut, you must really want that chocolate donut if you're doing it. So what is Juugo's chocolate donut? I don't think the anime adequately addresses why Juugo is willing to risk life and limb to go treasure hunting. Is he a thrill seeker? Someone after fame and fortune? What?

The way I see it, this anime is basically Tomb Raider in Japanese anime form. Go forth! Evade deadly traps! Solve brainy puzzles! All for the sake of the .. MacGuffin!

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by Anime Online

I don't think the anime adequately addresses why Juugo is willing to risk life and limb to go treasure hunting.

Nanana actually spelled it out the last episode -- Juugo seems interested in trying to find out who murdered her, and Nanana mentioned that one of her Collection might be able to help him with that. Except with Nanana being Nanana, she can't do anything more than give him clues rather than outright directions.