(L) The Breaker

[dazo]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

I know that sounds like an excuse, but maybe they just think "that was disappointing, you are not even worth enough to be killed" or something like that
On the other hand the plot also is always directly avoiding such situations where it's really kill or be killed, like the fight between "shitty four eyes" and "favorite sample", when the Doctor intervened.
At least people actually die here, unlike most japanese shonen manga... (I just pretend that whole Shiho being possibly revived plot does not exist for now).
Additionally Shiwoon does not order the people something ridiculous like "don't ever kill anyone", which a lot of shonen protags would do.

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"On the other hand the plot also is always directly avoiding such situations where it's really kill or be killed" ...
yeah ....the author dont want to cross the line.

Originally Posted by tsunade666

-_-

Did Shioon become master level in few hours? what bullsh*t is this?

main character powers my friend, if that wasn't the case shioon would be a punching bag till 20 + years old ...

Originally Posted by Tempest35

...you...haven't been reading the manwha, have you... He's been Master level ever since the island where his body finished adjusting to the ki.

On another note... dat Sera cover.

come on. master level is more that just a lot of ki, you need wisdom, experience , mentality and a good body ( it's important to train your body, stamina bla bla bla )

we got the experience ( fighting experience )through the meditation technique ( is broken )...at least is all in the head, and don't affect the body, the power thanks to the pill, then we got that nonsense about the "new body or body Reconstruction"....i fear, that the author will choose to turn him into a more boring character.... yeah.. a overpower character is boring.. but that also depend upon how the world is going to be, psychological history, comedy.. ..

at least shioon is young, so he has no life experience,....so how his actions and decision affect the world that is surrounding him.. that is going to be something good to see.. if he wasnt so naive a good person .. something we need to do bad things for a greater Good ( cliche, but you can get the idea) or just because there is no other way ...
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about this chapter.... is not that bad, we got more information about glasses, and let be honest,what they say is true.. murim is a sub-society, but not only that...is a violent world with theirs own norms....

so the idea is to make a "icon", to make all the murim show themselves and then haunting down all of them....sound easy , but is a big "fail".. so one point to glasses.

and.. where are the masters...

Originally Posted by zibi88

I say... that everyone in that car survived and are just hiding... shioon used himself as a bite to find out about who is the leak.... next it will turn out that shioon was lieing down there with a hidden microphone that was recording everything the "leak" was talking and Sera will broadcast this talk to all murims (and the goverment leaders that didnt knew about this)

Kinda this will screw up the plan totaly... and later on shioon will tell the glass guy that this was all his and sera's plan and will appologize to him for using him like that (to find the spy)

damn, i can see that happening, but all these politicians are nameless, but is a excuse to make the alliance move ( bad excuse, but.. )

....don't forget, that the elder already saved the grunts, give them a pat, and pay the bills of hospital....

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by zibi88

I say... that everyone in that car survived and are just hiding...

I don't know about the rest, but I sure hope a measly car accident wasn't enough to really hurt them.

Originally Posted by Tempest35

...you...haven't been reading the manwha, have you... He's been Master level ever since the island where his body finished adjusting to the ki.

On another note... dat Sera cover.

I wonder if something like "Defeat the SUC and then we'll go to the beach" would motivate Shioon enough for him flatten anyone and everyone in his path?

[Tempest35]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I wonder if something like "Defeat the SUC and then we'll go to the beach" would motivate Shioon enough for him flatten anyone and everyone in his path?

Just the promise of Sera alone would kick my motivation up a few dozen notches.

As for the Master/Master lvl thing - I believe there's a slight misunderstanding and/or difference in how we are looking at it.

Shioon is at Master lvl, yes, but he is not a Master. Like you said Dazo, you need more than quick hands, fast feet, and a lot of ki to be considered a Master - you need experience, which is just as important. Usually one gets this experience with the decades of training and sparring it takes to reach that lvl but Shioon completely by-passed that. His strike power and energy can certainly compare with a Master's - Master level - but he won't be acknowledged as a Master - not until much later.

When tsunade mentioned him not being at a Master-lvl, to me it meant that he still can't be compared to a Master yet, when there are elements of his fighting that certainly can compare.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I don't know about the rest, but I sure hope a measly car accident wasn't enough to really hurt them.

Accident alone rather not... but possibly the bomb.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

I wonder if something like "Defeat the SUC and then we'll go to the beach" would motivate Shioon enough for him flatten anyone and everyone in his path?

That's a Death Flag.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Four eyes got a Heel-Face Turn. Now we will get a reason for Shi-woon to fight 9AD, after Kaiser leaks to him the fact, that four eyes killed Shi-ho.

And a surprisingly well-executed one, too. It made sense for him to take that stance given his previous characterization, and he wasn't just pulled over via Power of Friendship or some shonen cliche.

[bludvein]

I don't see this as a heel-face turn. He was always a government lackey, his boss turning out to be the traitor doesn't change that. That just means he is somewhat trustworthy right this minute. He is still going down for assassinating Shiho and trying to force Shioon to be their lackey.

[zibi88]

I wonder what will gromo do when she snaps out and will learn that it was Kaiser that ordered "via goverment spy [aka baldie]" to kill Shiho xD..... then I can say goodbye black forest clans

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by XFire

And a surprisingly well-executed one, too. It made sense for him to take that stance given his previous characterization, and he wasn't just pulled over via Power of Friendship or some shonen cliche.

Yes, he always tried to "balance" everything out and maintaining the status quo between the government and only eliminating the irregularities, who had the potential to turn the tide (and he was right... 9AD is doing exactly what he feard, right now). He just made the mistake of cooperating with Kaiser in that regard, as with Shiho surviving, the whole mess may possibly not have happened.

Of course there is no guarantee for that, we still don't know exactly what he would have made Shi-woon do, if he wouldn't have boiled out. He could have either forced him to give the government an advantage, or merely use him to maintain the status quo. We don't know.

Originally Posted by bludvein

I don't see this as a heel-face turn. He was always a government lackey, his boss turning out to be the traitor doesn't change that. That just means he is somewhat trustworthy right this minute. He is still going down for assassinating Shiho and trying to force Shioon to be their lackey.

He merely seems like a misguided fool to me. I think he was not aware of Kaisers real nature until it was too late and got too easily swayed into working for him. If you reread the chapter you can see how he does not feel comfortable with the outcome, regarding 9AD becoming a "rageing demon".

I can understand four eye's point of view generally... the murim is a dangerous force that has to be kept in check. Leaving them alone for too long may at some point create "very ambitious murim-ins that decide to get *a little* bit of political power for themselves by involving themselves into the lives of several politicians". Calling all of them "honorable fighters" is very naive and may backfire very fast. He simply trusted the wrong person when it comes to dealing with them, and from his reactions in recent chapters it is obvious that he would never work for Kaiser again like that.

[konart]

Say my name :d

[Waxman]

Not a bad chapter, even though i got the impresion of reading 5 pages instead of 17.
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Did Shion already used that last move? Im sure i saw it somewhere...

[Miles Teg]

On this week chapter (166) you should compare page 14/15 to page 27/28 of the first chapter of the breaker (not new waves)

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by Waxman

Not a bad chapter, even though i got the impresion of reading 5 pages instead of 17.
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Did Shion already used that last move? Im sure i saw it somewhere...

9AD used the exact same moves in the first series.

That last move might've been Focus Stomp.

Actually.

[Bombo]

the eyes ~ the eyes ~

This chapter show us some old skill at least XD

[HayashiTakara]

Good good good, the last few pages is what I've been waiting for! more of this! and less of whatever the hell has been going on for the last 2~3 months.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by anonfr

9AD used the exact same moves in the first series.

That last move might've been Focus Stomp.

Actually.

Just looking at that comparison you can tell Shioon doesn't move like a master. 9arts movement looks more fluid and comfortable compared to Shioon who looks a bit stiff.

[Raxnom]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Just looking at that comparison you can tell Shioon doesn't move like a master. 9arts movement looks more fluid and comfortable compared to Shioon who looks a bit stiff.

I was of the opposite opinion. 9arts looked more free/loose with attacks as fit with his personality and Shioon was more of a proper style

[EvI]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Just looking at that comparison you can tell Shioon doesn't move like a master. 9arts movement looks more fluid and comfortable compared to Shioon who looks a bit stiff.

they have height differences of course the move wouldn't be perfectly the same but it was great and he did perfectly for someone like himself , shioon eyes and movements were the same as goomooryong and also he finished the guy that was understimating him like all others, this already make this chapter one of the bests in term of action
hoping to see the next one now

[felix]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Just looking at that comparison you can tell Shioon doesn't move like a master. 9arts movement looks more fluid and comfortable compared to Shioon who looks a bit stiff.

You're overanalysing it. We don't even know if this is an actual reference, random coincidence or just a laziness by the author.

[dazo]

yep, chapter was good, but i started to feel that something is odd with shioon.....maybe because the authors want to show him more serious and mature.. but feels a bit forced....i just hope that, this doesn't take the pride route with shioon ( to much sunwoo pride.... dude you are not murim, a little pride is ok.... just don't abuse... )

On a different note, those 9art moves were good..ahh the original breaker.....yeah...that was good ( but shioon doesn't have the Slasher Smile )

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Just looking at that comparison you can tell Shioon doesn't move like a master. 9arts movement looks more fluid and comfortable compared to Shioon who looks a bit stiff.

time for a quote(from dmc ):

" you may look like him, but you don't have his fire! "

9arts , is a bro who beat , and is still beating masters, + gain his title from a competition, slaughtering all other competitions... and he enjoy his power(but not his past)... and shioon, just gain a lot of ki from his pill + meditation+ " mc mind" ( and better get ready for the "i'm your father scene" with the kaiser..........let's hope it doesn't happen...but....where is his damn father...get away deus ex!)..... so of course, 9arts movements are better, more fluids and natural

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by dazo

yep, chapter was good, but i started to feel that something is odd with shioon.....maybe because the authors want to show him more serious and mature.. but feels a bit forced....i just hope that, this doesn't take the pride route with shioon ( to much sunwoo pride.... dude you are not murim, a little pride is ok.... just don't abuse... )

On a different note, those 9art moves were good..ahh the original breaker.....yeah...that was good ( but shioon doesn't have his Slasher Smile )



time for a quote(from dmc ):

" you may look like him, but you don't have his fire! "

9arts , is a bro who beat , and is still beating masters, + gain his title from a competition, slaughtering all other competitions... and he enjoy his power(but not his past)... and shioon, just gain a lot of ki from his pill + meditation+ " mc mind"..... so of course, 9arts movements are better, more fluids and natural

Did you just say Shioon isn't a Murim-in? What?