2014-08-18, 10:52 | Link #5961 |
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A timeskip it is possible with how things are going.
I get the feelings(and I think someone already say something along those lines)that after this arc, NR will be no more and whoever survive this arc, will create a new group. I see a timeskip of a few years and the new group that tries to do what Nr was unable to accomplish.
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No, because monarchy is the source of all evil. To create a better country, they must try something new, like democracy or theocracy.
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2014-08-18, 10:56 | Link #5964 |
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Harem/harem end in this series?
even though we like that genre... no... it is impossible since... the first to fall far him is possesive same goes for Mine... First one alone warrants a death penalty or guide to the torture chamber to those who try to make a move on him |
2014-08-18, 11:06 | Link #5968 | |
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Question is how many members would survive? |
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2014-08-18, 11:20 | Link #5969 | |
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Some people mentioned Leone hadn't had any significant parts of the story yet and killing her right now would be pointless. Makes sense. It's the same with Akame which is the reason why I think the author has made her so low key. That and she's the titular character. Tatsumi for obvious reasons, though I wouldn't discount him dying a heroes death by the end. |
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2014-08-18, 12:37 | Link #5970 |
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Of course Leone didn't have a significant part yet, it's still to come and most likely very soon.
Been made clear since early on of the story how Leone is gonna have something big with Esdeath coming up. We're told how Leone wants to take out Esdeath herself. When she kept an eye out on her though, we saw how Leone backed off immediately. Then of course, is the scene in the Church, Leone finally clashes with Esdeath but ends up brutalized. And in the aftermath of that, Leone made that promised to repay Tatsumi for saving him from her. Meanwhile, Esdeath found out about Tatsumis unknown (to her) Lover. /Shrug Leone's big moment and significant part of the story is gonna be saving Mine by sacrificing herself. Poetically as well, pretending she's Tatsumis lover yet every word being honest that she loves him, that's where her "Marking" comes back in and how Tatsumi will be hers when he'll become a good man, which by the way, was implied few chapters in a convo between the two. |
2014-08-18, 12:42 | Link #5971 | |
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Or Leone would simply grab Mein and make a run for it, Susanoo already did the hold off Esdeath thing for the whole team, having Leone do it would be repetitive. Edit: And Leone dying just to support a pairing would be a dumb way to go, this isn't a romance manga. |
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2014-08-18, 12:51 | Link #5972 | |
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Sometimes....I really wonder why I even post here when people don't even read what I write. Not gonna repeat myself, everything you said is "countered" in my post.Especially the bolded. |
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2014-08-18, 12:52 | Link #5973 | |
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No it didn't, why would Leone have to pretend she is Tatsumi's lover when if one of them can get away, she is fast enough to grab Mein and make a run for it. Esdeath can freeze time and she isn't stupid, if she is in a position she can get one of them than she can get both of them. Last edited by Solace; 2014-08-21 at 07:55. Reason: Removed quote. |
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2014-08-18, 12:59 | Link #5974 |
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Leone reminds me of Fuji-nee san and Yoko Littner, the Onee-san types that are essential as the platonic connection for the protagonist. They usually get into trouble all the time, but they never actually die.
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2014-08-18, 13:03 | Link #5975 | |
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She will probably just get really nasty injuries until then, the author can do a lot with her healing ability. Also she is the primary source of comic relief, killing her off would strip the author of a way to cool down the manga after a dark moment. |
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2014-08-18, 13:06 | Link #5976 | |
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The reason the Mine x Tatsumi relationship felt forced to me was that there wasn't much affection displayed by either before they got into a relationship. It was "KEEP PEELING THOSE CUCUMBERS OR WHATEVER, THOUGH, LOLOLOLOLOLOL" being enthusiastic as anything, sure, teasing 'can' show attraction but teasing isn't limited to being attracted to someone else either
Someone mentioned earlier that the relationship felt casual and I'm inclined to agree. Tatsumi saved her and apparently she saw him in a different light, she was nervous, nudged him and he went for it, seems to be falling for her now. It was pretty casual- and I wasn't expecting it at all, and I didn't like it to begin with. I don't like the head over heels obsession 'love' either, because that's not love, love at first sight is impossible, you can have an obsession or a strong attraction or whatnot with someone at first sight but more often than not, it's lust at first sight, love is something that takes time to develop. I don't like the 'love at first sight' thing, it's something media/society is only starting to recently refrain from, I think that's just society trying to inject deeper meaning into something and it's really artificial to me, but I was still surprised by Mine being 'the one'. I was expecting it to be someone else because there wasn't any clue beforehand except a few chapters where Mine is beating around the bush after being saved and then Tatsumi is all "Oh okay, yeah, why not?" As for Akame, I don't know what she actually wants as a person, if she wants someone that she has that deep relationship with or not. Part of me says she doesn't, especially in her line of work, she'd be in a state beyond broken if she lost someone that she cared for to a magnitude more than Sheele, but she also is attached to people despite being that 'stone faced killer' so maybe she really does long to be with someone, and she's either stopping herself, or she doesn't want it. I don't like Budou either. Seems like an arrogant lord / shogun or something, "I'll protect the empire" even though he's weaker than Esdeath and hit Tatsumi with his Teigu but didn't kill him weak Quote:
On a side note, does anyone expect multiple teigus to become a balance factor or possibility in the future? It was mentioned that wielding one alone requires a lot of power (and focus?) but I was wondering if it would come into play at all, wielding two or more teigus- probably just two. I was thinking that Esdeath would be powerful enough, but she's already fighting the beast that she fully drank so she probably has her hands full in terms of not turning into something with no free will, then I thought about Tatsumi. At the end of it all or near it, Tatsumi could be the second strongest person in the world to Esdeath, rival Esdeath or even be stronger, while not having to deal with a beast trying to overtake his mind, and his teigu does have evolution, maybe one of the evolutions was or will be the ability to handle a certain type of teigu as well, or more teigu in general. Thoughts? |
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2014-08-18, 13:20 | Link #5977 |
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Please restrain from talking things you can't be sure about. It didn't a killing blow, Budou clearly wanted to capture Tatsumi instead of killing him to obtain more information about the NR, or else he would have continued to strike Tatsumi after he fell unconscious. I's like to keep saying Budou and Esdese are equal until we have further information. And if you want to talk about their attack's power, just 1 hit from Budou could completely disarm Tatsumi while Esdese couldn't when they fought before.
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2014-08-18, 13:44 | Link #5979 |
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okay I think I figured out the pacing so far for the anime
if they stay at 3 ep. per volume if ep8=ch.13 14 3 eps.=ch. 15-19 count:11 ep.. ch. 20-23= 3 ep.[/B] count:14 eps. ch.24-28=3 ep. count: 17 ch. 29-33=3 ep. count:20 eps. ch.34-38= 3 ep. count:23ep. last ep.(24) is free which leaves me to believe they may try to go to ch. 43 if they're trying to get to ch.43 u going to have 2 rushed eps. if ep. 8=ch. 13 14 ch. 15-19=3 ep count: 11 eps. rush part ch. 20-23 =2 eps. Count: 13eps. rush part again ch. 24-28= 2 eps. count: 15 eps. ch. 29-33=3 eps. count:18 eps. ch. 34-38= 3 eps. count: 21 ch. 39-43=3eps. Ep. count: 24 I didn't count the special chapters/ 33.5 and 23.5 because I dont think those chapters will get animated |
2014-08-18, 13:48 | Link #5980 | |
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As for Esdeath, i just see it as a waste for all her development (however slight until now) for people to just cast her aside too easily. i get the feeling (or hope) that if ther is a time skip, she will be the one who trains tatsumi. there is too much evidence to suggest that she will just let this be, but whether that means going ape or changing (drastically) remains to be seen (but hopefull) as for Mien, something is definitely going to happen and perhaps her death may push Tatsumi to the edge and make him more devoted to changing of the country (along with any other death) but honestly, besides being Tatsumi's girl friend, it feels like she does not have any more use. i think her death would set a very dark tone for the story, but if she lived, then something more tragic would have to happen to the rest of night raid besides their deaths, like chelsea, but slow and shown instead of skipped ahead. If there was a timeskip, the PM had better have some way of prolonging his life. perhaps the danger beasts that stylish was experiencing on and the little girls alchemy will give him some sort of advantage in this area? his son is not likely to succeed him (i think) since he seems more of a brute than a politcal minded folk. Leone has had a few decent parts here and there, such as the fight with stylish and Bors. she still needs to be more prominant, but i agree with the whole platonic nee-san type thing. unless tatsumi grows like 2 feet, its gonna make him seem like a midgit in comparison. i agree, it isn't a romance manga. but many read it solely to see esdeathXtatsumi development, so romance does have something to do with it. And yea, dying may be a stupid way to ensure a pairing but many hope and see that with mien, and chelsea dying, while not ensuring mien, sure did help it since she did not act on her feelings. Budo's only concern is protecting the palace and the emperor. that is his duty. he did not kill tatsumi to interrogate him, he could care less, thats why he just left him. |
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