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Ithekro · 2013-06-04, 17:21

Trigger was a death flag?

bhl88 · 2013-06-04, 18:03

Well a final charge is a death flag.

And having an opponent whose name is Gilgamesh

Joyce_Steele · 2013-06-04, 18:47

In shoujo if the heroine's ambition is to have a boyfriend, it is enough for me to press the 'go back one page' button.

Traece · 2013-06-04, 20:35

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Originally Posted by Joyce_Steele

In shoujo if the heroine's ambition is to have a boyfriend, it is enough for me to press the 'go back one page' button.

"One day I'm going to be in love and get married and be happy!"
Translation: "One day I want to be a corpse!"

By the way, the battlefield is not a place to try and save people. Specifically, not your enemies. It's also not the place to grow up by stealing military tech and charging in (if it doesn't kill you, it'll kill someone who has to save you).

Joyce_Steele · 2013-06-04, 21:44

Actually not all shoujo have that and in fact some of my favorites don't have 'boyfriend' issues like most popular shoujo ones. Princess Nine was good because the heroine's ambition is to become a baseball ace and a good baseball team, not looking for romanctic interest. In Marimite the heroine is looking for a place in a sisterhood, not a boyfriend.

Unfortunately these shows are ignored just because it lack what most shoujo shows are famous for, romance. A shoujo without romance is much like a shounen without action and adventure.

GreyZone · 2013-06-06, 06:19

Appear in a sequel or a "flash-forward" and you are invincible in any chronologically earlier parts. I call it "Space-Time-Armor" and it is the only Armor that is stronger than Plot-Armor.

...Aside from series with different "timelines"... then you may still be screwed.

RWBladewing · 2013-06-06, 09:11

Any member of a team of minor named characters dying is often a death flag for the entire rest of that team. In some especially poorly-done cases (like each member being in a different place facing a different situation but still managing to be systematically wiped out over the course of a single episode) it doesn't even feel believable and seems more like they just had to die for symmetry's sake.

Xellos-_^ · 2013-06-06, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Traece

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The problem with this is that normally the death is the intention. Very rarely does a character cover a retreat and intend to actually survive. It's a delay to the death for the sake of a successful withdraw.

Also, while it may not necessarily be a death flag, running into battle after some sort of traumatic experience or because you're so blindly angry will end with you getting royally destroyed. It's so very rare that a character actually wins after initiating with a blind rage.

Due to more recent events, I also have to point out that in more gritty or realistic settings, being an inept civilian and hiding yourself in any way on a battlefield or a soon-to-be battlefield will result in you being dead.

Oh, and I'm sure it's been said, but don't ever give anyone anything. Ever. Sentimental or otherwise. In fact, just don't talk to people, because then you might actually survive to the end of the series.

Of course my favorite advice for avoiding death flags: Don't be unimportant.

Which is why Madoka gets so much attention. Nobody expect yellow ranger to lose her head so soon even through her death flag (in hindsight) was raise.

GreyZone · 2013-06-06, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

Which is why Madoka gets so much attention. Nobody expect [...]

Put Spoilers into DAMN SPOILERTAGS! I planned to watch madoka... thank you very much.... I already heard that that "gen" guy or whatever he is called likes to kill off characters, but man...
I am not joking... just 5 minutes ago I really was thinking "hey i guess I finally watch Madoka tomorrow".

EDIT: I have to ragewatch Madoka now... just remember to put spoilertags next time. Well... time for an all nighter to get all episodes down in one go

EDIT2: Well that was fast... now its 6am in the morning, pfft, good that I don't have anything to do this morning... but still: finished

Sheba · 2013-06-06, 20:06

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Originally Posted by Magin

and unless I skimmed over it, I'm surprised the Pineapple Salad (I think it was a salad, at least) wasn't mentioned.

Because it's specific to the Macross series, and a "sub-flag" of the "I gonna cook you/myself this dish after battle" family of death flags. As bonus, it makes you Macross-savvy when someone mention "pineapple *something*" in a Macross series.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-06-07, 17:44

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Originally Posted by GreyZone

Put Spoilers into DAMN SPOILERTAGS! I planned to watch madoka... thank you very much.... I already heard that that "gen" guy or whatever he is called likes to kill off characters, but man...
I am not joking... just 5 minutes ago I really was thinking "hey i guess I finally watch Madoka tomorrow".

EDIT: I have to ragewatch Madoka now... just remember to put spoilertags next time. Well... time for an all nighter to get all episodes down in one go

EDIT2: Well that was fast... now its 6am in the morning, pfft, good that I don't have anything to do this morning... but still: finished

But this forum is about deaths in anime and spoilers should be expected. If not, it would mean putting tags in everthing.

GreyZone · 2013-06-07, 21:41

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

But this forum is about deaths in anime and spoilers should be expected. If not, it would mean putting tags in everthing.

you can either say such things in a more "general way", without alluding to a series, or AT LEAST not say WHO dies... or you say everything but use a spoiler tag. It isn't so hard...

Mad Pierrot · 2013-06-07, 22:28

I already said several spoilers with a comment. Already the first comments had spoilers.

NinjaRealist · 2014-12-09, 02:48

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Originally Posted by Hooves

He's named Urobutcher for a reason.

AKA Gurobuchi

GreyZone · 2014-12-11, 14:47

"Death Flags". I wonder how they came to be... does it make sense to foreshadow someone's death in such an obvious way?

That's THE (only) thing I like about Akame ga Kill (manga version, as I didn't see the anime past EP5). It throws around so many death flags that they become meaningless. People die randomly anyway. One Piece does something similar in a different way. Death Flags do not matter there because in the whole series only very very rarely people get killed (though people in flashbacks tend to die frequently).

The Visual Novel of Umineko no naku Koro Ni (Alliance of the Golden Witch) even joked about death flags by having a character win a fist fight against someone else who is 20 times stronger, because the supposedly stronger person just before the fight released about every possible death flag in existence (with a counter for the # of DFs as well of course).

Tenzen12 · 2014-12-13, 18:54

It's not just these, death flags in genereal are almost never played perfectly straight anymore (at least not obvious ones) in any other genre than mecha.

ikramit · 2014-12-20, 05:40

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GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	"Death Flags". I wonder how they came to be... does it make sense to foreshadow someone's death in such an obvious way? That's THE (only) thing I like about Akame ga Kill (manga version, as I didn't see the anime past EP5). It throws around so many death flags that they become meaningless. People die randomly anyway. One Piece does something similar in a different way. Death Flags do not matter there because in the whole series only very very rarely people get killed (though people in flashbacks tend to die frequently). The Visual Novel of Umineko no naku Koro Ni (Alliance of the Golden Witch) even joked about death flags by having a character win a fist fight against someone else who is 20 times stronger, because the supposedly stronger person just before the fight released about every possible death flag in existence (with a counter for the # of DFs as well of course). __________________

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Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	It's not just these, death flags in genereal are almost never played perfectly straight anymore (at least not obvious ones) in any other genre than mecha. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

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Joyce_Steele Banned Join Date: Mar 2013	In shoujo if the heroine's ambition is to have a boyfriend, it is enough for me to press the 'go back one page' button.

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Joyce_Steele Banned Join Date: Mar 2013	Actually not all shoujo have that and in fact some of my favorites don't have 'boyfriend' issues like most popular shoujo ones. Princess Nine was good because the heroine's ambition is to become a baseball ace and a good baseball team, not looking for romanctic interest. In Marimite the heroine is looking for a place in a sisterhood, not a boyfriend. Unfortunately these shows are ignored just because it lack what most shoujo shows are famous for, romance. A shoujo without romance is much like a shounen without action and adventure.

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RWBladewing Salt Levels Critical Join Date: Oct 2007	Any member of a team of minor named characters dying is often a death flag for the entire rest of that team. In some especially poorly-done cases (like each member being in a different place facing a different situation but still managing to be systematically wiped out over the course of a single episode) it doesn't even feel believable and seems more like they just had to die for symmetry's sake.

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