(L+CR) Akatsuki no Yona

[~Yami~]

this episode become the best because of Gung-Tae and his wife...
I enjoy watching them so much...

go away Su-won...

[felix]

Originally Posted by TheEroKing

New OP totally destroys the "feel" of the series. What a horrible attempt at changing perfection.

New opening's fine, story in the series changes over time... that's why it's good in my books. Opening is representing the story changing phases, you gotta change with it. We have more then enough series that just reset every three episodes and don't go anywhere.

[Seihai]

Yeah, I think rather than destroy the feeling, the OP might want to prepare us mentally for some decisive action that's to come so it's more like a "go with the flow" kind of thing. I'm digging the OP anyway, especially those guitar parts. Singing could need a bit more oomph but it's okay.

[GDiddy]

So SuWon's episode not worth it? I didn't watch it yet because really....I'm more invested in Yona and the Dragons.

[Flower]

Originally Posted by GDiddy

So SuWon's episode not worth it? I didn't watch it yet because really....I'm more invested in Yona and the Dragons.

In my opinion that would be kind of unfair to say at the moment, especially because we do not see the possibly future ramifications of the content thereof. Aspects of it may come into play in later eps, and better to be in the know than to have big question marks popping up above one's head, I would guess.

Your call though.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by GDiddy

So SuWon's episode not worth it? I didn't watch it yet because really....I'm more invested in Yona and the Dragons.

Yeah, I would agree with Flower in that you should probably see it. Even if you don't care for Su-won, it does help to know what he's up to and how it will lead to future events. You also can get an understanding of his methods as well. Also, you get to know other supplementary characters like the Sky and Earth generals and the Earth general's wife. While not the best episode of the series, I certainly thought it was worth the watch. It's not filler by any stretch.

[Fairy Water]

one more Su won event, Im sure his fandom will increase.

maybe Im the only one interested in Su Won's side stories than main story about Yona and her gang :/

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

one more Su won event, Im sure his fandom will increase.

maybe Im the only one interested in Su Won's side stories than main story about Yona and her gang :/

There are a few others in here who have expressed similar things, and some have even gone so far as to find his story line more interesting than Yona and her company's. So no - you are not alone in your interest.

[Fairy Water]

Originally Posted by Flower

There are a few others in here who have expressed similar things, and some have even gone so far as to find his story line more interesting than Yona and her company's. So no - you are not alone in your interest.

Thats good to know I have ship to ride on.

[Arya]

eheh, well personally it is not that I prefer bad guy over Yona and Hak, but lately I grow bored a bit by the dragons, I mean, we already know that they will stick with Yona no matter what, on the other hand the show made pretty clear that, at least so far, they are not and won't be contenders for Hak, he is the man, period. So all the edge they could have had somehow is lacking. They are dragging this journey a bit for my tastes. If the point is to make Yona grow, they could also do it having all the dragons gathered already.
In that sense this episode was a nice break, since even if I don't like Su won, he is an interesting character, unlike the dragons.

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

one more Su won event, Im sure his fandom will increase.

maybe Im the only one interested in Su Won's side stories than main story about Yona and her gang :/

You're not alone. I would say I'm marginally more interested in what Su-Won is up to then Yona and co. I like the characters, but I just find Su-Won's "politics" more interesting then Yona gathering some dragons to then do...what? Take back the kingdom, over through Su-Won, even if Su-Won ends up doing a good job? Would the people even appreciate that? Could Yona guarantee that she'd do a better job then Su-Won? I certainly hope that these are dilemmas and questions that gets raised in the show, after we get passed the "everybody get in here arc".

[LKK]

I was trying to remember. Has Yona said that she wants to take control of the kingdom? At this point, I thought she was still fleeing for her safety. I've forgotten; why is she gathering the dragons? To help her, IIRC, but to help her do what?

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by LKK

I was trying to remember. Has Yona said that she wants to take control of the kingdom? At this point, I thought she was still fleeing for her safety. I've forgotten; why is she gathering the dragons? To help her, IIRC, but to help her do what?

As far as what she stated so far, Yona is only concerned about survival. There is no other objective besides gathering the dragons in order for her and Hak to live. Now once she accomplishes that, her mind might shift to another goal. As seen from the beginning of the show, she fights invaders into her country.

[LKK]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

As far as what she stated so far, Yona is only concerned about survival. There is no other objective besides gathering the dragons in order for her and Hak to live.

That's how I remembered things as well.

Now once she accomplishes that, her mind might shift to another goal. As seen from the beginning of the show, she fights invaders into her country.

I couldn't remember who she attacked in that sequence -- whether she was attacking invaders or some of Soo-Wan's army. I thought maybe if they were Soo-Wan
s army, then that was where people were getting the idea that she was trying to take control of the country.

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by LKK

I couldn't remember who she attacked in that sequence -- whether she was attacking invaders or some of Soo-Wan's army. I thought maybe if they were Soo-Wan
s army, then that was where people were getting the idea that she was trying to take control of the country.

She was specifically telling them to depart from the Kingdom of Kouka and not allow them to run rampart in the kingdom at the end of episode 2. That would suggest that they are invaders, since you wouldn't tell the kingdom's army to leave the kingdom.

[GDiddy]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

As far as what she stated so far, Yona is only concerned about survival. There is no other objective besides gathering the dragons in order for her and Hak to live. Now once she accomplishes that, her mind might shift to another goal. As seen from the beginning of the show, she fights invaders into her country.

I thought that was taken when she and Hak were fighting off the Fire Nation and when they 'died'.


And I decided to watch SuWon's episode afterall. He's a clever one.....

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by GDiddy

I thought that was taken when she and Hak were fighting off the Fire Nation and when they 'died'.

I think she believes that is only a temporary reprieve. She is concerned for the future, and believes that Hak might die if he is left to protect her by himself. Also, she does not know if the kingdom thinks she is dead or not. For all she knows, they are still chasing after her. Her chances of survival increases tremendously if she has more help. Also, she will be traveling a lot, so she'll need the help in case of dangers along the way.

[blakraven66]

Finally caught up with this series.

Originally Posted by LKK

That's how I remembered things as well.


I couldn't remember who she attacked in that sequence -- whether she was attacking invaders or some of Soo-Wan's army. I thought maybe if they were Soo-Wan
s army, then that was where people were getting the idea that she was trying to take control of the country.

I think they're invaders. They don't look like the soldiers of the Fire Tribe we've seen. The flag is different and Yona's line to them was "I won't let you run rampant in this kingdom"

In conjunction with the hints given in this episode and the last everything makes a bit more sense.

-The villager said King Il "bowed to pressure from the other Kingdoms".
-Geun-Tea said "shadows looming over the kingdom".
-Su-Won said "If we go to war."

These already tell me the other kingdoms have been eyeing Kouka for a while now. Especially when the previous king was a warmonger. They probably didn't invade because Il was caving in to the pressure and were waiting for an opportune moment. Whether Il's policies take root and leave Kouka defenseless or rebellion/civil war breaks out between the clans over said policies. Either way, Kouka would be weakened.

This also gives more reason why Il had to go. I don't think murdering Il was all about revenge though it was part of it. If Il wasn't killed Su-Won would never have taken the throne and address the issue of possible invasion seeing as Il was against Yona and Su-Won marrying. Most likely because he knew what Su-Won's policies would be if he took the throne.

Another reason was to prevent civil war from breaking out if Su-Won tried to claim the throne without killing Il. Wind Tribe was already an ally of Il while the other tribes would have probably sided with Il out of duty or stayed neutral since they don't know Su-Won as shown by how Geun-Tea treated Su-Won earlier. Which is something to be avoided as stated above.

Now that he's showing what he can do to the other tribes and gaining their loyalty, it probably wouldn't matter now if it ever comes out that Su-Won killed Il.

It's more about saving the kingdom he and his father loved than a greedy ambition to be king as some of his haters seem to think.

Now would also be the best time for the other kingdoms to invade as Su-Won is still consolidating his power having just been crowned and the tribes are still suffering or just recovering militarily from Il's policies.

Onto King Il.

The only thing I can think of is he's probably more knowledgeable of the legend. Yona's hair is pretty distinctive and the White Dragon village recognized what she was on sight.

Everything makes sense if you think about it in that angle. His pacifist ways and insistence that Yona never hold a weapon was all to have Yona avoid a destiny of conflict.

Killing his brother was also probably because he was paranoid of his brother using Yona to gather the dragons and wage war. Though this theory is dependent on whether Il really killed his brother and if he killed him after Yona was born.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by blakraven66

Though this theory is dependent on whether Il really killed his brother and if he killed him after Yona was born.

It was definately after Yona was born. You see him appear in episode 3 when goes to see if shouta Soo-won is okay after he, Yona, and Hak all got sick from playing in the snow. Yona even mentioned his death in the first episode, and that it was passed off as some kind of acident. You yeah, her uncle was killed quite a bit after she was born. She and Soo-won are not that far apart in age (2 years) and he was with his father long enough to idolize him.

[Stark700]

So we're back with the adventurers again. Nice.

Thought this episode was actually pretty interesting with focus on this village along with the pirate gimmick. Hopefully we'll see more development with the other characters but this seems to focus a bit more even on Jae-ha for now. Oh and nice Hak, you got some fans.