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Perfect 10 | 12 | 19.05% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 23 | 36.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 23.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 12.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.59% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.59% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.59% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.59% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.59% | |
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2015-02-23, 03:50 | Link #261 | |
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That's basically why I can't justify him. Letting aside that I can't buy that Slaine took that decision only for that. Inaho's "stealing his role" had a weight in all of this. As the events are hinting even in this episode.
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2015-02-23, 07:11 | Link #262 | |
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Inaho gave Slaine a very simple question/test to determine if he could truly be trusted enough to be brought onboard to see Assyleum, and he failed the test miserably on top of being the first person to fire his weapon since he could not control his emotions. Was Inaho partly at fault for insinuating that he might exploit the princess? Sure, but he was being truthful (She is an important factor that could end the war) and Slaine wasn't exactly being a role model as far as his handling of the situation goes either. |
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2015-02-23, 07:28 | Link #263 | ||
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Another factor was the connection that Slaine made with Saazbaum. Saazbaum clearly had a profound impact on Slaine. I think that Slaine's desire to reform Vers arose considerably from his interactions with Saazbaum. And to reform a people, it helps to be a part of them... Quote:
You don't have to condemn what Inaho did in order to understand why it would leave Slaine distrusting of the Earth side.
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2015-02-23, 08:06 | Link #264 | |
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Neither did he present himself in a trustworthy manner to the Earth side, it goes both ways. |
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2015-02-23, 08:17 | Link #265 |
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...and in less than two years, Slaine is guilty of the very same thing he accused Inaho of doing. Slaine's hypocrisy runs deep, but he's also pretty genre-savvy! Keeping Asseylum locked up in her own bird cage while forcing a betrothal is a great way of building anti-NTR armor! Now he just needs to silence Eddelrittuo for starting to know a little too much of his business...
I think it would be more along the lines of nightingale than stockholm syndrome. Sauce was the one who saved Slaine from bondage and was instrumental in nursing him back to health (gave the order to treat him and whatnot). Though the psychological effects do mirror stockholm more so than nightingale. Then again Slaine does make for pretty good yaoi bait... |
2015-02-23, 08:37 | Link #266 | |
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In S1 he was focused totally on Asseylum and then he directly switched to save Mars. But I don't remember a moment he actually stopped and focused on the Earth. And here insert my previous post.
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2015-02-23, 08:39 | Link #267 | ||
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Rayet was on Vers side, the Vers killed her father, she lost trust in Vers and wanted revenge. Its just so happens the Terrans is her best chance to get back at the Martians for killing everyone that mattered to her. Contrast that to Slaine, the Vers treat him like dirt, luckily he has Asseylum for support. Fast forward, he then oppose Vers for trying to kill Asseylum. After his stupid action with Inaho, he then sided with Saauzbaum, and back on Vers side. Contrast with Inaho, Vers killed his parents, he had a hard life, luckily he has Yuki and friends. His best friend got killed by Vers, he wanted to fight back and survive. He could have aimed to destroy the Vers but instead helped Asseylum and aimed only to stop the war. They all have lost loved ones, but Inaho kept his cool, Rayet went beserk one time, and Slaine had multiple emotional breakdowns. Just because one person cries louder doesn't mean their problem is more important. Mature people don't act like babies. Same goes for Saazbaum, who is a baby. Quote:
Hell, I bet the Africans would grow food for them if Vers make a contract to supply electric with Aldnoah powerplant which would be zero cost and pollution. Environment-conscious Europeans would welcome them. |
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2015-02-23, 08:50 | Link #268 | ||
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He pointed his gun, then opened fire on a Terran soldier. What comes after that? Say he killed Inaho. What now? Its him and the Deucalion, is he going to storm the Deucalion with his Carrier and expect to successfully rescue the Princess unharmed? If he was any smarter he would've played along, convince Inaho he was on Terran side, and get his audience with Princess. Then he could plan his escape with the Princess from the inside if he wanted to. I like Slaine as a character, but I also recognizes where his wrongdoings are. |
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2015-02-23, 09:22 | Link #269 | |
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But nope, he did not cooperate, instead he had the nerve to demaded things and even shoot first. Every crap he want through, is because of his own doing. Even now, his lying, exploiting and betraying people, is because of his own doing. That Assyelum got shoot and was in coma is because of him. That Asseylum will be eventually forced to this absurd marriage with him, is also because of him. That the war still continues and many people are dying is also because of him. He is a Hypocrite, a traitor to mankind and is taking part on a genocide. He is responsible for his own and many other peoples misery That is why I can't feel any symphaty for him and facepalm everytime when some people come with the "poor Slaine is suffering" nonsense. |
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2015-02-23, 10:08 | Link #270 |
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ould question has a very cool on 4chan forum, he has 14 Asked Questions?
1-Why was never shown, through Flash Back, Slaine feeling guilt and regrets for what he did? 2-ever, we Slaine have difficulties in their battles, and the rapid rise policy? 3-ever Slaine was seen, planning, studying tactics of fighting, studying the opponents, trying to figure out the weakness of the opponents, considering plans to combat and tactics, or thinking about the revolution? 4-Slaine had some difficulty in his political rise? 5-Slaine, had no loss during his political rise, because it could so easily? 6-Why, Slaine has no inner thoughts and monologues on their tactics and plans for revolution, or during your battles? 7-When Marylcian challenged Slaine, was never shown Slaine studying the fighting opponent, or making a plan for this fight, and Development is one tactic. That is a victory for convenience writers? 8-Taking the duel with Marylcian, what other fight Slaine had? 9-Slaine had some loss, any member of his family was killed, a friend died during his rise political? 10-It Harklight, who develops the plans, and battle tactics, and studies the opponents? 11 It is possible that only someone and shown reading books on flowers and birds, and visiting a princess in a tube, be a revolutionary? 12 It is possible a revolutionary, during a war, if preucupar with books on flowers and birds, instead of doing research on the battles, tactics to be used on the opponents, studying their weaknesses, if preucupando with the facts that will occur in future battles? 13-Pulling Marylcian because no other count, opposes, or questions about the rapid rise policy of Slaine to power? 14 It was very convenient and easy Barouhcruz have accepted Slaine? |
2015-02-23, 10:58 | Link #271 |
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Im not sure why people are calling Slaine's action Genocide, cause as of right now they are not. However, given his current state of mind its clear he is not doing this with pure intentions anymore. His actions could very well lead to Genocide. Does anyone think that him carving out a new territory on earth, would leave room for Terrans, not likely,
My problem with Slaine is i feel he is acting like petulant child with too much power. Not to mention iv always found his action to be a high form of treason. He does not know how to weld the power that has been handed to him responsibly. The way his plans are proceeding right now there will be a great loss of life, earths military is getting ready to get their assess handed to them. Too be clear Vers has no claim of earth at all, it is not their planet. Vers is unable to solve their own problems so the best choice is the invasion and seizing of another planets resources through war. Selyum would not and will not e too pleased with this new Slaine and he even knows it himself, which is why he questions what she would think of him now. He will also have to worry about rebellious factions (as he stated) trying to stop him. Plus his lying to Lemrina will have dire consequences when she find out and she will. If the earth forces find that they can not win this war, i would be in favor of scorched earth. Leave nothing for enemy, make no mistake without earths resources Vers is doomed. I for one would rather destroy majority of the earth than to leave it to the enemy. Slaines mental stability which seems to be going downhill will be the end of him. I loved hearing Yuki call Slaine the piece of shit that shot her little brother lol. I can see her trying to kill Slaine on her own.
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2015-02-23, 11:08 | Link #272 | |
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For example, it is understandable for a kid who has only been taught violence to commit violence, but just because it's understandable (and sad), it doesn't mean that we should overlook his actions. At the very least, unlike that hypothetical kid, Slaine could've made a more informed decision. Last edited by monster; 2015-02-23 at 14:15. |
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2015-02-23, 13:28 | Link #275 | |
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Captain doesn't understand why the Deucalion is not sent in the front lines. I can see where the military leaders are coming from. The Duecalion and Inaho are best at Asymmetric warfare. Due to the fact each Martian Kats have different tech. On Slaine I'm beginning to to think the reason he is confused beside Stockholm syndrome is because he still has issues with his father, his real one. Dr. Troyard abandons everything on Earth for the chance at Aldnoah research. Whether it yielded results we don't know. I imagine Dr. Troyard is a neglectful father who values his research more than his son. Slaine barely remembers Earth. By bringing him to Mars his father rendered him stateless. One who does not know where he belongs. Unlike Rayet who made her choice, Slaine just went with flow. Mind you I'm also beginning to suspect Lemerina is not a legitimate heir of the Vers royalty. I don't mean being a bastard. It is very suspect Sazzbaum having custody of a spare heir. Asseylum was born after the second emperor died. Lemerina was born after Asseylum was born. Dr. Troyard from Sazzbaum's description is not an engineer but a medical doctor. What if Troyard conspired with Sazzbaum to create a contender to the throne? |
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2015-02-23, 15:40 | Link #278 |
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If he does that, dude will get promoted to Most Hated Douchebag in Anime Ever. He's probably currently second place, right after Suzaku Kururugi, but that kind of dick move is exactly what he needs to surpass him.
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2015-02-23, 16:04 | Link #279 |
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He's most likely just going to keep her hidden away in the garden. The "birds in the cage" scene alludes to that. Lemrina can't do anything even if she's aware of Asseylum's recovery. A bit of "plot demands it" has to happen for them to meet. If anything, I see her helping Asseylum escape. It serves her goals either way.
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