Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid - Anime General Discussion Thread

[Nachtwandler]

It's A-1 we are talking here. 50% chance to screw the plot as they want.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

It's A-1 we are talking here. 50% chance to screw the plot as they want.

So pretty much like every other studio right?

[Nachtwandler]

No. A lot of studios don't screw originals in terms of plot

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

No. A lot of studios don't screw originals in terms of plot

You mean adaptions and name all these studios lol. Because MADHOUSE, Sunrise, Bones, I.G, WHITE FOX etc have all drastically changed things around in adaptions. If your come back at me with recently made studios like Trigger, Mappa, WIT etc and/or studios who have done a few adaptions only like PA and GOHANDS than smh @ that worthless response, don't bother.

It has more to do with whoever is in charge of the script and the director as well the intent behind the anime than whatever studio is making it.

[FlamingMangos]

I agree with you Westlo. Even 7 arcs themselves has a chance of ruining the manga adaption. They have been doing anime originals but how do u know how they do on manga adapations? They don't really do many manga adaptions or have animated alot of anime in general. You shouldn't just make fast assumptions in the beginning. People thought Sao II was going to be a bad adaption because its A-1 but it turned out to be one of the best adapations out there. Nothing was changed and it was pretty much adapted perfectly. The light novel readers was happy.

[Alastoryagami]

I may not speak for everyone, but I think very lowly of Vivid...It would be hard to make it anime original and make it worse than the manga, at least for me.

My issue with A-1 is the character designs they shown for Vivid. I find 7arcs designs a lot more appealing.

[FlamingMangos]

Originally Posted by Alastoryagami

I may not speak for everyone, but I think very lowly of Vivid...It would be hard to make it anime original and make it worse than the manga, at least for me.

My issue with A-1 is the character designs they shown for Vivid. I find 7arcs designs a lot more appealing.

I don't get why people keep saying they don't like A-1's character design. Its not like its their own art style but the artist of the manga itself. I'm pretty sure the character design wouldn't be any different if it was with 7 arcs because its the original artist for the manga. Why wouldn't he be drawing for his own manga? Unless u're telling me hes going to let the artist for the previous nanoha series which was originals to draw for him...

[Rising Dragon]

I just say we shouldn't judge it until we see the actual animation of the show.

[Grand Phoenix]

If I watch something, it's going to be for the story. I'm not going to let the quality of the animation bother me, even though that can be seen as a detractor to some.

Besides, this is Nanoha. That's the one show I'm not going to pass up on even if the quality is subpar (like Sailor Moon Crystal's). I'm looking forward to seeing the girls back in action!

Speaking of which, do we have a specific date as to when the show will air? Other than it being next month, that is.

[Alastoryagami]

Originally Posted by FlamingMangos

I don't get why people keep saying they don't like A-1's character design. Its not like its their own art style but the artist of the manga itself. I'm pretty sure the character design wouldn't be any different if it was with 7 arcs because its the original artist for the manga. Why wouldn't he be drawing for his own manga? Unless u're telling me hes going to let the artist for the previous nanoha series which was originals to draw for him...

A-1 is animating, that includes doing the character designs. Fujima Takuya is the manga artist, he has nothing to do with A-1. A-1 is supposed to design the characters as close as they can to the original designers, but from the looks of it they're not even close.
Of course, I also think 7arcs has better designs than Fujima Takuya, but A-1 character designs are even worse than that.

And I think A-1 has done some decent designs before, but just going by what they showed us so far with Vivid, I'm pretty disappointed.

[FlamingMangos]

Originally Posted by Alastoryagami

A-1 is animating, that includes doing the character designs. Fujima Takuya is the manga artist, he has nothing to do with A-1. A-1 is supposed to design the characters as close as they can to the original designers, but from the looks of it they're not even close.
Of course, I also think 7arcs has better designs than Fujima Takuya, but A-1 character designs are even worse than that.

And I think A-1 has done some decent designs before, but just going by what they showed us so far with Vivid, I'm pretty disappointed.

Oh, I thought it was Fujima Takuya that is doing the character designs since the art looked sooo similar to A1's design. I dunno but, the art looked pretty similar to the original designs to me. I even thought it was Fujima Takuya that is doing it until I compared them side to side.

[b33g]

BTW, there's a new announcement. The new OP by Nana Mizuki is Angel Blossom, April 22 release.

[Lord of Fire]

Originally Posted by Alastoryagami

A-1 is animating, that includes doing the character designs. Fujima Takuya is the manga artist, he has nothing to do with A-1. A-1 is supposed to design the characters as close as they can to the original designers, but from the looks of it they're not even close.
Of course, I also think 7arcs has better designs than Fujima Takuya, but A-1 character designs are even worse than that.

And I think A-1 has done some decent designs before, but just going by what they showed us so far with Vivid, I'm pretty disappointed.

I agree. From what I've seen, the character design is gonna be a major turn-off for me, and might actually hinder my enjoyment for the anime proper. Seven Arcs' designs were very appealing to me, while A-1's just look plain, so I see the sudden studio change as an ominous sign.

I'll still give the show a chance, since I love the franchise as a whole, but my expectations will definitely be lower than before.

[LoweGear]

Judging an anime by character design is a rather obvious presumption, and in my experience a mistake: two of the anime I love are Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica, both of whom had character designs I was completely turned off by at first. In fact, the only reason I watched Madoka in the first place was because I realized with my experience from Gurren Lagann that character design isn't everything.

I can understand the sentiment of being hesitant just because the character design doesn't personally appeal, but an anime should be based on its storytelling and animation merits rather than its character design.

[Archon_Wing]

To be fair I don't like the original Vivid designs to begin with so perhaps to take an axe to A-1 was unfair. Well, maybe Einhart always looked nice.

And sure I agree partially with looks not being the whole bundle, but anime being a visual medium looks do matter and first impressions are the biggest ones, especially if it's a continuation of an existing series that is already in place, it can be jarring if it looks different especially if I preferred what they looked like before. And Madoka's character designs are sure pancakey or whatever but it's made up by an exceptional visual style in other regards in a particularly inventive director (Oh god, I hate praising that guy) and is relevant to the atmosphere of the story itself. As for having Madoka-level storytelling to make up for it from Nanoha? I don't think the franchise has had anything that's come close to be honest, but hey.

I mean sure not everyone gives a damn. Compare Haruhi 2006 to the 2009 continuation, and people were complaining about "k-oninification" with the designs, although I didn't really see what was the issue at that point, maybe because the later was terrible for much more pressing reasons though.

[FlamingMangos]

Some more scans.

[Alastoryagami]

I'm not sure which scan is supposed to be closest to the animated art. They all look different. Although i'm pretty sure none of these artists is the person doing the character design for the series.

[Stark700]

New CM:

[LoweGear]

Well, it looks A-1 quality to me, which means it's alright. If they can give it some nice fight animations to give those duels justice, then it'll be a treat to watch.

[Requiem-x]

Well, at least Rio looks ok. Now to wait for Miura.