To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 12 Discussion / Poll

[Miraluka]

Sorry but those people also were kids when they got into that kind of world, and many of them don't even reach adulthood in their lives and those who managed to reach it become the ruin of the next generations...

[Kenju of the Right]

Yeah i know it doesn't make it any better! but the way it has been set up made me sympathetic for her

[Miraluka]

Yeah, perhaps I'm just insensitive to that kind of excuse of pity(I find it cheap).

[ACertainStark]

“Are you watching, Magic Gods?”
He laughed.
He was neither a magician nor a Magic God. He alone formed an entirely new category.
And he seemed to be challenging someone.
“The sword once chose who would be king and I acquired Aihana Etsu with the shield, but you will acquire no one. Your precious toy will die here. So what will you do as Magic Gods? Is this any time to be mocking Aleister without a care in the world?”

Is St.Germain jelly?

[Kenju of the Right]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

Yeah, perhaps I'm just insensitive to that kind of excuse of pity(I find it cheap).

Trust me i feel you though, its just that her 'dark side' hasn't been shown

There are so many seinen villains that do suck horrible things i will find no pity for and it sickens me when some people sympathize for them*cough*griffith*cough*

[Ihaxlikenoob]

“A black hole bomb…well, maybe not that much. A dwarf star bomb is probably the most they can manage.”

Holy hell, AC's anti-grav tech is apparently far enough that these pop up in rumors.

[Starway]

Originally Posted by Kenju of the Right

Good point

but this here happens to be a small little girl who we've always seen as silly and funny. There hasn't been much of any scenes about her being a terrible person, so its kinda hard for me to not feel bad

Her fight with misaka showed that she was pretty bad there is also the fact that she sold out her friends to save her own life despite the fact she was basically giving them a death sentence.

[Kenju of the Right]

Originally Posted by Starway

Her fight with misaka showed that she was pretty bad there is also the fact that she sold out her friends to save her own life despite the fact she was basically giving them a death sentence.

Acts like those seems small time to me though, i've seen worse

but she has killed people

[DragonXX]

I think Accel would of bet better to fight St Germain then Touma this thing is really evil and I feel bad for Touma the more he help the more other people will come to hate him because he didn't save them. As Hamazura said Touma is not a God and can save everyone. What funny is that even Hamazura can see how twisted Touma is and he think of himself as the only pawn to be use, Touma had started to change after NT9 but my question is who can save Touma from himself because if no one can save Touma from himself even if he find away to make a happy world that is better then Othunis, which I know can happen in this series he will only have a bad end.

That may even be what this series end with everyone he had save trying to save him from himself.

This series have show just how twisted a superhero would be in real life

[Hiss13]

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St. Germain is lying. The Shield is not her end. Trap-kun is not her end either. I don't trust her one bit.

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

I think the description was even more graphic than what we got in the actual moment.

It freaking was. Dammit. I was about to eat dinner too.

[Miraluka]

Somewhere... Accelerator is looking at his phone... waiting for "the call".
Like Index did on NT3... :V

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by Hiss13

St. Germain is lying. The Shield is not her end. Trap-kun is not her end either. I don't trust her one bit.

Now I'm having Railgun SS2 flashbacks. Lies over lies over more lies.

And to be fair, it's already established killing Touma is not the point.

Originally Posted by Hiss13

It freaking was. Dammit. I was about to eat dinner too.

This is not a good day for the aromatic trap.

Originally Posted by Miraluka

Somewhere... Accelerator is looking at his phone... waiting for "the call".
Like Index did on NT3... :V

And he's gonna keep waiting until the high priest needs LO for something. I mantain that guy is way too pure evil to be put against Touma.

[ACertainStark]

Accelerator feels left out on the broship going on.

[Hiss13]

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Let's see what the liar known as St. Germain wants.

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

Now I'm having Railgun SS2 flashbacks. Lies over lies over more lies.

And to be fair, it's already established killing Touma is not the point.



This is not a good day for the aromatic trap.

Now that you mention it...I see the resemblance...especially since I reread Railgun SS2 fairly recently.
We knew it was never the point since the beginning though. We just don't know what our resident liar is after though.

But yeah, our aromatic trap is not having a very enjoyable birthday...

[R.LocK]

Okay. Browsing /a/ is not bad from time to time.

Spoiler:

A girl in a pink track suit, Takitsubo Rikou, turned her back on the intense fighting and crouched down.
However, she was not trembling in fear after losing her will to fight.
She picked up a small object she had found running along the floor.
“What is this?”
“Whoa!? I was found…and caught!? Kh. Release me, human!!”
“?”
Takitsubo tilted her head with a fifteen centimeter doll(?) in her hands.

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by FlyingCow65

So Aihana is St Germains King, Touma is Othinus King, it would make sense since Touma (king) had an almost breakdown until Othinus(conselour) came. That´s actually very interesting.

Nope, not even close since first if all Othinus wasn't even on the level of the current Magic gods and her plans only went as far as trying to go back home (which failed), also what you are pointing out is never even mentioned.

What is said is that Touma is a very important tool/chosen instrument for the Magic gods and that they chose him to achieve whatever it is that they plan to do.

“But we were all putting our lives on the line there! Everyone involved was a horrible person, but we kept pushing onward through the blood in the hopes of survival!! So what is this about Kamijou Touma’s presence? To hell with that! That spits in the face of all our efforts there. It shoves us to the sidelines and says it’s all decided by Kamijou Touma alone, no matter how much work we put in!!”

This reminds me of a few months back of the people that kept claiming that for characters to live all they need to do is be near Touma, which leads me to believe that Kamachi does read the To aru forums and that this volume might be his middle finger to the people that kept (and still are) saying that.

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So let's see:

- Aneri is basically doing all the work for Hamazura... why do we need him again?

Either way Will > Aneri.

- Like I said/mentioned a few pages back, St. Germaine is lying through their teeth while using truths.

- Dat logic doe.

- More proof of how difficult it is for people from the science side to get a handle on magic being real.

- What a coincidence that it's the kids birthday that exact same day, kind of a bs development but I'll take it.

- Magic gods chose Touma as their instrument, very interesting.

- Touma has too good/big of a reputation for his own good.

- Even when Touma isn't being a hero he still comes off as a hero, just Touma things I guess.

[SimoHalo]

Originally Posted by R.LocK

Okay. Browsing /a/ is not bad from time to time.

Spoiler:

A girl in a pink track suit, Takitsubo Rikou, turned her back on the intense fighting and crouched down.
However, she was not trembling in fear after losing her will to fight.
She picked up a small object she had found running along the floor.
“What is this?”
“Whoa!? I was found…and caught!? Kh. Release me, human!!”
“?”
Takitsubo tilted her head with a fifteen centimeter doll(?) in her hands.

Yeah, the threads are surprisingly civil. I'm getting hyped for the rest

EDIT: Ok no. Last night was though

[The One Above God]

So...Merlin implied to be a Magic God?

Seeing Touma's thoughts regarding the idea of his presence having a major effect in situations is really interesting. You can also see how much NT9 and the previous events affected him through his words alone. You can say that he's come a really long way from being someone who just took the place of Kamijou Touma.

Regarding Saint Germain's bs, I didn't even believe anything she said . I just read them and thought: "hmm, amusing" . Wonder how Touma's going to deal with this lying bitch/bastard.

Anyway, looks like Aneri is the obedient harem member of Hamazura .

[SimoHalo]

“A black hole bomb…well, maybe not that much. A dwarf star bomb is probably the most they can manage.”

That doesn't sound good

[LazyHunter]

I just love how Hamazura basicaly reacted like the readers and called St. Germain's bullshit. Of course Touma isn't that bothered by someone being manipulated to kill him, he endured the Alpha World.

Hey, Touma remembers Mitsuari Ayu! I wonder if she will show up again soon.