2015-05-10, 23:25 | Link #41 | |
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2015-05-10, 23:28 | Link #42 | |
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How making a hole makes him a better tactician than Azazel? |
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2015-05-10, 23:37 | Link #43 | |
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Edit: just added this in the discussion ^^V
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2015-05-10, 23:55 | Link #46 |
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But his not a god in dxd Sun wukong is training vali and ise to fight god class's if vali can already beat them it be redundant I say his satan level. Azazels never come up with a plan to beat an evil dragon yet has he? Cao cao has.
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2015-05-11, 00:02 | Link #47 | |
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Azazel was the one who came up with a plan to defeat Crom Cruach, it didn't work only because he trained to the point he's as strong as a Heavenly Dragon. |
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2015-05-11, 00:21 | Link #53 |
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He hasn't won a single note worthy fight since volume 4. His plan to be lazy with ise and get tannin to unlock his balance breaker so he wouldn't have also failed. His teaching tatics for ise and rias I dont agree with.
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2015-05-11, 00:31 | Link #55 |
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Alright gang! It's time for the Feats Disussion on...
Issei's Destructive Capability! First, some notes. Some have asked about the quantifiable numbers in terms of damage. The VS wiki has a good listing of the rules of thumb for output required to destroy X and thus put a character in said category: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Potency. This'll be hard to apply to DxD, but it can help us roughly quantify once we've determined a tier. Second, my intention here is to start a discussion that gets us as close to an accurate consensus. Iku ze! To begin, we start with Issei's Highest Explicit Feat. This, as of Volume 18, is his destruction of Dimension Lost's replica of Kyoto and the subsequent destabilization of the dimension with a single firing of [Dragon Blaster]. This, unequivocally, puts Issei at Large City+ Buster. Now, the obvious question comes from the Mountain busting feat from Volume 5. Not only does Issei reportedly bust a mountain in this feat, he does so accidentally. This is hard to qualify with our Kyoto feat, as [Dragon Shot] is a far weaker version of the shot that destroyed Kyoto. Either we reconcile this as hyperbole, or as I infer, that the Kyoto blast is much stronger than a city level explosion. More on that later however, as we can leave it for the powerscaling section. SPEAKING OF THAT! Time for some P-P-P-P-Powerscaling! The obvious first case for Issei's powerleveling is CCQ. If Triana can destroy a city casually, [Crimson Blaster] is obviously much stronger. And then after that, we have Longinus Smasher, which has no defined maximum power. What we do know however, is that CCQ's power boost brought Issei from being completely ineffective against Sairaorg's Balance Breaker to matching and overcoming it. In my opinion, the boost from CB>LS is at least a two-step boost. This would put Issei at an Island Buster. While him being higher is possible, we can't reach that at the moment without more stretched powerscaling or more feats. Finally, we come to lipservice. Better known as Character Statements. I keep seeing that Issei has been stated to be equal to Serafall, but for the love of me I can't remember that. Anyone have any input on that? Well, let's start the discussion! |
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I don't think the mountain busting feat in volume 5 is a hyperbole according to the context:
Spoiler for Context from a novel (Volume 5 Life 3 Part 6):
If we're talking about the mountain he busted, it may be hard to assume it but I think its around the average mountain size or maybe smaller (probably some mountains arent even at least a mile in area) Last edited by Krudelu; 2015-05-12 at 01:38. |
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