(L+CR) Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka

[Random Wanderer]

Most of the time it's easy to forget that Hestia is actually a goddess, given her behavior and how she is limited to being a powerless mortal. However, when she gave her word to Take's familia that, even though she would blame them for the rest of her life if Bell died, she would not hate them, and the sun shone in upon her as she asked them for their aid, I doubt there was any question in anyone's mind that she was truly a goddess. All of the adventurers could clearly feel it, the way they went to their knees before her and pledged to aid her in one voice. If she would just show that side of herself to people more often her familia would probably be much larger by now.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

If she would just show that side of herself to people more often her familia would probably be much larger by now.

To be fair, I'm sure there's some level of "the rich get richer" at play too. Other than those super desperate like Bell and Lili, who would want to live in a run down, abandoned church instead of a nice estate like Loki has?

[SamCurt]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Most of the time it's easy to forget that Hestia is actually a goddess, given her behavior and how she is limited to being a powerless mortal.

Originally Posted by GDB

To be fair, I'm sure there's some level of "the rich get richer" at play too. Other than those super desperate like Bell and Lili, who would want to live in a run down, abandoned church instead of a nice estate like Loki has?

Spoiler for LN Vol 1 for some origins on Danmachi Hestia:

Apparently, Hestia had a problem recruiting adventurers (Bell's her 50th attempt) because nobody believe a loli-looking being is a Falna-giving god.

The rundown church was given by Heph to Hestia, who was annoyed by Hestia free-loading at her house but genuinely concerned about her well-being.

[Sixth]

Is this Bell's first time to went into the mid-dungeon? It went awry so fast. Talk about bad luck. But then, I also pity those minatours. They got murked fast.

As for Hermes, for some reason, I just can't trust this guy. He is like your standard bad guy who looks friendly outside.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by noobita

Is this Bell's first time to went into the mid-dungeon? It went awry so fast. Talk about bad luck. But then, I also pity those minatours. They got murked fast.

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Yeah this time was their first time going to the middle floors. It's why Hesita was especially worried for Bell this time and things went bad fast because their is quite a gap in how difficult the middle floors are compared to the upper floors.

[Ultragunner]

Something has been bothebothering me for a while now, so in this "dungeon" the adventurers keep going DOWN instead of going UP??

I must have been heavily influenced by the concept of going up the floors from SAO and Tower of God

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Something has been bothebothering me for a while now, so in this "dungeon" the adventurers keep going DOWN instead of going UP??

I must have been heavily influenced by the concept of going up the floors from SAO and Tower of God

Down is the Dungeon, yes. Up is the Tower, where (some of) the gods live.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Something has been bothebothering me for a while now, so in this "dungeon" the adventurers keep going DOWN instead of going UP??

I must have been heavily influenced by the concept of going up the floors from SAO and Tower of God

Same here...That was the impression that I got it until this episode.

Too much SAO

[Marcus H.]

I don't blame you guys. They focus so much on the tower, so people start associating it with the dungeon that's in the title.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Down is the Dungeon, yes. Up is the Tower, where (some of) the gods live.

Originally Posted by noobita

Same here...That was the impression that I got it until this episode.

Too much SAO

It IS called a dungeon. Even the way they've referred to the floors suggests a descent, Eina tells Bell "Stay on the upper floors!" and "You're not ready for the lower floors!" or "Maybe he's ready to go deeper in the dungeon..." multiple times, would've been a weird ass tower if the easiest floors are at the top and the lower ones are the hard ones .

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I don't blame you guys. They focus so much on the tower, so people start associating it with the dungeon that's in the title.

So where exactly did Eina take Bell shopping? They literally walked toward the tower, looked at it, focused the shot on it, called it Babel and then go on to explain that it's a shopping center AND if I remember correctly mentioned that the gods live on the upper floors later on.

[SamCurt]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

So where exactly did Eina take Bell shopping? They literally walked toward the tower, looked at it, focused the shot on it, called it Babel and then go on to explain that it's a shopping center AND if I remember correctly mentioned that the gods live on the upper floors later on.

Spoiler for Novel clarifications on the Babel.:

Shops are up to 20th floor. Gods can live above that if they can pay. It also contains a community center, a Guild exchange, and a Guild hospital (think of it as a RPG inn).

The anime wasn't clear, but did hint, that Freya lives in the Babel.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by SamCurt

Spoiler for Novel clarifications on the Babel.:

Shops are up to 20th floor. Gods can live above that if they can pay. It also contains a community center, a Guild exchange, and a Guild hospital (think of it as a RPG inn).

The anime wasn't clear, but did hint, that Freya lives in the Babel.

Well there were many tale-tell signs Freya has a massive view of the city without the tower and the pans of the city show that the tallest structure is Babel with nothing coming even close. Maybe I'm just more perceptive than most but even in the anime I never got the impression that the tower is the dungeon. The structure of the dungeon too looks like a cave and caverns no where near the design of the outside.

[FateAnomaly]

It is typical in dungeon exploration games that the exterior would not necessarily match the interior though including the size.

I wonder how many years Hestia indentured herself this time for the salamander wool. She is already taking on quite a few part time jobs.

[AnimeFan188]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Usagi?

They were Al-mi'raj:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-mi%27raj


Which has been adapted as a D&D monster:

http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Al-mi%27raj

http://www.lomion.de/cmm/almiraj.php


Though, for some reason, these Al-mi'raj had axes instead of Unicorn-type horns.

D&D has Hell Hounds and Minotaurs as well. Though creatures like these exist in other games too.

[kukuru]

The anime totally omitted one pretty important aspect of a level 2 Bell. With his self discovered skill Argonaut, he has one other skill leveling up, a luck trait.

Argonaut is a given skill, he got a second skill that is chosen from a list and its also a super rare one.

So don't expect Bell to croak anytime soon, he's a true cheater.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

It is typical in dungeon exploration games that the exterior would not necessarily match the interior though including the size.

I wonder how many years Hestia indentured herself this time for the salamander wool. She is already taking on quite a few part time jobs.

If I remember correctly Bell had a shitton of money after the Gorilla fight, Minotaur fight and all the good runs he'd had with Lili and they also weren't that expensive. Hestia is indebted to Hephaestus(at this point in the novel).

[MagicaLideaL]

Originally Posted by kukuru

The anime totally omitted one pretty important aspect of a level 2 Bell. With his self discovered skill Argonaut, he has one other skill leveling up, a luck trait.

Argonaut is a given skill, he got a second skill that is chosen from a list and its also a super rare one.

So don't expect Bell to croak anytime soon, he's a true cheater.

I guess anime will introduce the skill later on because it is too significant to ignore it. If the staff by any chance did ignore it on purpose, it would be quite ridiculous.

[demonicslayer]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

It is typical in dungeon exploration games that the exterior would not necessarily match the interior though including the size.

I wonder how many years Hestia indentured herself this time for the salamander wool. She is already taking on quite a few part time jobs.

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

If I remember correctly Bell had a shitton of money after the Gorilla fight, Minotaur fight and all the good runs he'd had with Lili and they also weren't that expensive. Hestia is indebted to Hephaestus(at this point in the novel).

This item isn't as cheap as you think. I'll post a link to LN pages for a list of items cost just for reference. Bell almost used up all his Valis due to the 3 Salamander's wool. This is considering he bought 3 of them with the coupon from Eina. If not, I think he couldn't even get them without breaking his pocket.

Link

[DorkingtonPugsly]

So I guess Naaza wont be voiced?.... ;_;

[kukuru]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

If I remember correctly Bell had a shitton of money after the Gorilla fight, Minotaur fight and all the good runs he'd had with Lili and they also weren't that expensive. Hestia is indebted to Hephaestus(at this point in the novel).

He does not have much money, it's kind of a penniless teenager getting his 1st part time job. He's finally in the black but not much.

The gorilla fight and minotaur fight gave almost zero money, since their drops while good, are still just normal.

And Lili was stealing his money, before she got robbed herself (remember?)

But! Bell is extra lucky, and gets a higher drop rate, so he is probably raking 1.5x a newbie. And he gets his armor made for nearly free(via contract).

The cloaks ran him dry, but he never cared about that. Bell is just a total nice guy. He's glad Lili is around to ground him to the floor on his habits.