2015-07-16, 14:23 | Link #1 |
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What make a good loli character?
I think loli character is a quite curious case. As they are defined by their appearances, but most loves them for their personality. Considering lots of people attach lolicon to be some bad or at least negative things, I want to see whether it's true in this thread.
Hopefully not many only find a loli character to be physically attractive. (SaintessHear aside... he's a hopeless case...) So yeah, back to the topic. What made a good loli character for you guys, and maybe a couple of example if can? Mine top off my head are:
So through my list, I guess having the loli character described to be innocent, naive, but in the same time hosting a level of mature/ independence for their age, and attached to and loved their family very much.... seemed to be a winning formula for me. Meanwhile, as seen, i missed out most of badass loli character/ thousands years old vampire trapped in a girl body, etc. I guess because to me, they are not true loli character by that same sense. I also didn't mention Hoppou-chan (Kantai) as she's rather fan-made
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2015-07-17, 07:16 | Link #4 |
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I don't like loli if not as side characters, as I don't shouta for what is worth, so well, it's not that I have many examples.
One point that doesn't seem clear to me is in regard of your point about liking them for their personality. Since personality are easily categorized, like tsundere loli, kuudere loli etc, I think that the personality is not exactly their particular, unique or most appealing point so it's not what people like of them. As you said it is the appearance, as primary thing. As for example I have a soft spot for black hair characters possibly kuudere or tsundere, but I can't stand loli tsundere Shana clones. But Shana herself. In any case here a loli I really liked she is Enju Aihara from Black Bullet. She is the good mix of maturity given by her circumstances I won't bring up here, but is still a child in many other things Spoiler for Black Bullet :
That should rise the question if a loli is still a loli if removed of her sexual and romantical components. I'd say no, but it's not that easy probably.
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2015-07-17, 08:50 | Link #5 |
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Uhhh...the same things that make a good character in general? Their internal logic needs to make sense to them as well as us, any development has to be gradual, and the ones who don't develop need characters or events to bounce off of, so their personalities reflect toward us even more. I think the better question is what you define as a loli (...and shota) character. Rin from Usagi Drop and Ushio from Clannad both have the age to match the appearance, but then you've got the K-On! high school girls who look younger than Oreimo's middle schooler in Kirino. I also just learned Honoka from Love Live! has a smaller bust than Kirino. What the actual fuck. With artstyle playing into this, it sorta becomes a question of how oldyoung-looking is too oldyoung-looking. And as my esteemed experience in anime fandom has taught me, people will arbitrarily arbitrate arbitrary criteria because : personal taste :
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2015-07-17, 12:06 | Link #6 |
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Best Loli is Tsukuyomi Komoe, ya don't need to be a preteen or teen to fit in the category. :P
She's strict yet lets things slide for the most part. Mature yet Childish. Damn what more can you ask for.
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2015-07-19, 22:30 | Link #8 |
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I will be honest, i didn't expect the above responses since I personally identify a loli character based more on their personality/character rather than by their appearances.
A good example is actually listed by Akuma Kinomoto: Kirino from Oreimo. When i watched the anime, I actually thought that she was like 16~ish. I didn't realise that she was actually a loli character until I read the novel. Which then despite having similar art style, showed very clear that she's preteen. Like of course she also tsundere but there's a bratty, immature, about it. It's hard to describe
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2015-07-20, 11:44 | Link #9 |
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An overwhelming amount of innocence, energy, and cheerfulness, I'd say. A loli's honesty should be reflexively intrinsic, and they should make you want to smile in spite of yourself. Their actual appearance doesn't really matter as much. I find this kind of innocent enthusiasm endearing at any age.
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2015-07-20, 14:52 | Link #11 |
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There's the loli in both body and mind, something like Hinata's ro-kyu-bu.
Then there's lolibaba, a granny is a granny through and through even when acting cute and with loli body, something like Biscuit or Mina. Then there's the perpetual loli. Usually demon or otherwise inhuman like Disgaea characters. The important thing is their mentality doesn't mature beyond a certain point compared to their age. Then there's nojya loli, a loli but speaks with old edo dialect. may actually be loli, a granny or a perpetual loli, but the distinguishing aspect is the way of speaking (nanojya~!). something like Couvert from Dogdays or Mariabel from WildArms. And then there is the odd case of lolikyonyuu (loli big boobs). It's originally an extension trait of big boobs, because the gap in body and boob size emphasizes them more beautifully. However, enlightened lolicons have eventually accepted this as well, because all lolis are created equal. The mix of these traits have created a distinct and exquisite taste indeed.
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2015-07-29, 02:00 | Link #16 |
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Still bored.
At the risk of getting punished for necroposting, I'll say that the best loli I've seen so far is Kurumiko from Kanojo ga Flag wo Oraretara. She also taught me the true meaning of moe and now whenever somebody wants to know what "loli" and "moe" means I just point them to Kurumiko.
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2015-08-01, 02:11 | Link #19 |
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I don't know whether a child character which isn't attractive appearance wise could be labelled as loli. But since you mentions Rin (Usagi Drop), I guess the same could apply to Renge (Non Non Biyori). An outlier I should say. Her main selling point isn't in her appearance, but in her endearing behavior.
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