(L) Dungeon ni Deai o Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka (LN)

[Twi]

I'm honestly surprised the Minotaur made it nine floors higher than it should have been. How many did they frighten, exactly, for a bunch of players capable of OHK them to slip up at the end?

@Bakoto: I didn't say anything about hugs and kisses. Being blunt and being a jerk are two different things.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by SeaDam

Bell was fine until he ran into a monster that was not supposed to be anywhere near there.

That was still reckless to go down to 1 floor apart from the War Shadows spawning floor (6) since they are known to be newbie killers. If one of them went up to floor 5, that could have killed Bell just fine. That's why Eina was upset that Bell went down to floor 5 that early. But yeah, that monster was 9 floor apart from his first spawning floor.

I'm honestly surprised the Minotaur made it nine floors higher than it should have been. How many did they frighten, exactly, for a bunch of players capable of OHK them to slip up at the end?

There was like an army of them and they went all in different direction xD.

[SeaDam]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

That was still reckless to go down to 1 floor apart from the War Shadows spawning floor (6) since they are known to be newbie killers. If one of them went up to floor 5, that could have killed Bell just fine. That's why Eina was upset that Bell went down to floor 5 that early. But yeah, that monster was 9 floor apart from his first spawning floor.

That's why they call it an adventure..

[Kuroageha]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Holyshit that's hardcore, I don't care nearly enough about some imaginary characters relationship to go rabid like that I tend to look at fanfics in general as an oddity and to maybe give me some inspiration on my WN that I'm working on but to think some people would choose a fanfic over the canon facts is beyond my realm of understanding.

Yeah, indeed is really something for example one that currently exists is

Spoiler:

Mikoto x Touma from Toaru majutsu no Index, a one side love from the girl for the main character that started, however said girl isn't on Touma's strike zone aka doesn't counts for him as a potential gf, yet ironically her ship is one of the biggest from the series, granted being a tsundere automatically gave her such fandom but that aside, canon doesn't supports it.

Also the ending to LoK was retarded as all hell and I recently got into a heated debate over 4 hours on 4chan about it and the general consensus of fans was negative, not because of the Korasami as much as the ass pull ending and completely shitty writing in seasons 3-4 disregarding previous canon and everything, and most fans were glad it got canned.

As far as I remember, the producers/authors of Korra got assblasted because Nickelodeon delayed, changed the time for stream or just out right gave the series a low priority, etc because from what I heard the big guys on Nick didn't like how the series was so inconsistent and badly handled, that pissed them off so that final was like their way to tell to them to gtfo. Imho, a childish tantrum by the producers/authors you can even feel their anger on their website.

Also Welf is my best girl to be honest I'd seriously prefer a spin-off Shokugeki no Souma style of Welf competing with other blacksmiths and making badass looking gear, over the Ais one since I find it fucking boring. Kubo should illustrate since he has some of the coolest designs and Welfs harem should be written by the MonMusu author. This series would destroy all.

Welf, what? A girl?

[Twi]

.... Welf would probably make a fine girl, I'm not arguing against that, but I like him more as a boy. He reminds me of Touji from Tokyo Raven. They're true Bros and should probably have their own series more than the protagonists.

Just saying.

[Avenger2000]

Originally Posted by Avenger2000

Read the book and a question about the Syr chapter

Spoiler for syr:

Did anyone get an inkling why Freya sent one of her followers to look after Syr? Some kind of relationship between her and Syr we don't know about from what I gather. Allen (the follower) was complaining that the goddess should have made sure Syr doesn't move around too freely so she is easier to observe.

No-one has an opinion on this? I thought it was pointing to some good developments in future volumes.

[Zefyris]

^Well obviously I noticed this when I read volume 8. That's even one of the most important info we got in that 500+ pages volume, if not the most important.

Spoiler for volume 8:

This shows several things, invalidating the theory that syr= Freiya in desguise for example.
This confirms that not only Syr is involved with Freiya, but that she has a special situation with Freiya. The fact that Freiya has her second in command watching over her from afar and that that second in command says to Freiya that only her words can have effect on Syr means that Syr is in position where Freiya has authority on her but only Freiya inside the Freiya familia. Not even the de facto leaders of the familia can say a thing to her.
This is very interesting but I'm not sure I understand what situation is Syr in. If we were not already informed that it's impossible for a god to have a child on earth, I would think that she's Freiya's daughter. That and the fact that if she was half god she would radiate shin'i to some lesser degree, making her origin immediately apparent for others around her. So she's not Freiya's daughter, but she's not simply a normal member of Freiya's familia. She has more value than anyone in the familia since the second in command is watching over her, and don't respond to anyone else than Freiya either. Really, besides being Freiya's child, I can't see what she is. So as long as there is no posisbility for gods to have a child on earth, I'm really confused about Syr's identity.

plus from some scenes, it seems like Syr has some kind of "direct connection" with Freiya. Sometimes she will do Freiya's bidding without doing it voluntary it seems, and felt in love with Bell at the same moment as Freiya. As if Freiya could possess/control her or at the very least see by her eyes or something.

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

^Well obviously I noticed this when I read volume 8. That's even one of the most important info we got in that 500+ pages volume, if not the most important.

Spoiler for volume 8:

This shows several things, invalidating the theory that syr= Freiya in desguise for example.
This confirms that not only Syr is involved with Freiya, but that she has a special situation with Freiya. The fact that Freiya has her second in command watching over her from afar and that that second in command says to Freiya that only her words can have effect on Syr means that Syr is in position where Freiya has authority on her but only Freiya inside the Freiya familia. Not even the de facto leaders of the familia can say a thing to her.
This is very interesting but I'm not sure I understand what situation is Syr in. If we were not already informed that it's impossible for a god to have a child on earth, I would think that she's Freiya's daughter. That and the fact that if she was half god she would radiate shin'i to some lesser degree, making her origin immediately apparent for others around her. So she's not Freiya's daughter, but she's not simply a normal member of Freiya's familia. She has more value than anyone in the familia since the second in command is watching over her, and don't respond to anyone else than Freiya either. Really, besides being Freiya's child, I can't see what she is. So as long as there is no posisbility for gods to have a child on earth, I'm really confused about Syr's identity.

plus from some scenes, it seems like Syr has some kind of "direct connection" with Freiya. Sometimes she will do Freiya's bidding without doing it voluntary it seems, and felt in love with Bell at the same moment as Freiya. As if Freiya could possess/control her or at the very least see by her eyes or something.

Spoiler:

I think Syr is either an adopted daughter from one of her dead familia members she's "collected" or maybe she has an affinity as an oracle to the goddesses I'm more inclined to believe it's the latter. Hear me out, firstly Syr has an almost supernatural ability to gather those with troubled pasts around her Mia with her strained relationship to her familia, finding Ryuu just when she'd given up hope to live and Bell with his troubled pass and she got to know him right as he was about to go through his life changing event not to mention her job taking care of orphans or dead adventurers. For some reason I feel she's gonna be extremely important to the story at some point.

[Avenger2000]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

^Well obviously I noticed this when I read volume 8. That's even one of the most important info we got in that 500+ pages volume, if not the most important.

Spoiler for volume 8:

This shows several things, invalidating the theory that syr= Freiya in desguise for example.
This confirms that not only Syr is involved with Freiya, but that she has a special situation with Freiya. The fact that Freiya has her second in command watching over her from afar and that that second in command says to Freiya that only her words can have effect on Syr means that Syr is in position where Freiya has authority on her but only Freiya inside the Freiya familia. Not even the de facto leaders of the familia can say a thing to her.
This is very interesting but I'm not sure I understand what situation is Syr in. If we were not already informed that it's impossible for a god to have a child on earth, I would think that she's Freiya's daughter. That and the fact that if she was half god she would radiate shin'i to some lesser degree, making her origin immediately apparent for others around her. So she's not Freiya's daughter, but she's not simply a normal member of Freiya's familia. She has more value than anyone in the familia since the second in command is watching over her, and don't respond to anyone else than Freiya either. Really, besides being Freiya's child, I can't see what she is. So as long as there is no posisbility for gods to have a child on earth, I'm really confused about Syr's identity.

plus from some scenes, it seems like Syr has some kind of "direct connection" with Freiya. Sometimes she will do Freiya's bidding without doing it voluntary it seems, and felt in love with Bell at the same moment as Freiya. As if Freiya could possess/control her or at the very least see by her eyes or something.

Thanks for the insight. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[zztop]

What is Volume 8's structure like? I've heard it's a compendium of related short stories, although I'm not sure if they're side stories or plot related stuff.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Twi

I'm honestly surprised the Minotaur made it nine floors higher than it should have been. How many did they frighten, exactly, for a bunch of players capable of OHK them to slip up at the end?

@Bakoto: I didn't say anything about hugs and kisses. Being blunt and being a jerk are two different things.

If you're gonna call someone a jerk, they have to mean harm, which Bete doesn't.

Originally Posted by zztop

What is Volume 8's structure like? I've heard it's a compendium of related short stories, although I'm not sure if they're side stories or plot related stuff.

It's actually very plot related. If I had to say, Welf really takes the spotlight.

[zztop]

Originally Posted by bakato

If you're gonna call someone a jerk, they have to mean harm, which Welf doesn't.



It's actually very plot related. If I had to say, Welf really takes the spotlight.

What sort of main events take place? Because I've heard the author wanted it to be a breather story after the excitement of the previous installments.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by zztop

What sort of main events take place? Because I've heard the author wanted it to be a breather story after the excitement of the previous installments.

Summaries are on Jcafe.

[Ashe Nei]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

^Well obviously I noticed this when I read volume 8. That's even one of the most important info we got in that 500+ pages volume, if not the most important.

Spoiler for volume 8:

This shows several things, invalidating the theory that syr= Freiya in desguise for example.
This confirms that not only Syr is involved with Freiya, but that she has a special situation with Freiya. The fact that Freiya has her second in command watching over her from afar and that that second in command says to Freiya that only her words can have effect on Syr means that Syr is in position where Freiya has authority on her but only Freiya inside the Freiya familia. Not even the de facto leaders of the familia can say a thing to her.
This is very interesting but I'm not sure I understand what situation is Syr in. If we were not already informed that it's impossible for a god to have a child on earth, I would think that she's Freiya's daughter. That and the fact that if she was half god she would radiate shin'i to some lesser degree, making her origin immediately apparent for others around her. So she's not Freiya's daughter, but she's not simply a normal member of Freiya's familia. She has more value than anyone in the familia since the second in command is watching over her, and don't respond to anyone else than Freiya either. Really, besides being Freiya's child, I can't see what she is. So as long as there is no posisbility for gods to have a child on earth, I'm really confused about Syr's identity.

plus from some scenes, it seems like Syr has some kind of "direct connection" with Freiya. Sometimes she will do Freiya's bidding without doing it voluntary it seems, and felt in love with Bell at the same moment as Freiya. As if Freiya could possess/control her or at the very least see by her eyes or something.

Reading what you just wrote i had a thought.

What if Freiya and Syr are and entity as a whole that has been divided into 2 individuals? Maybe the Freiya's part was the one retaining the goddess aspect (her memory before the "separation") and some dubious personality traits meanwhile Syr retains keeps some other traits of the "late" Goddess Freiya as a whole?

I know that's some crazy theory here, and that it has some problems and holes (the other gods and godesses should've realized if it has happened isn't?) but well... Killing some time, don't read too much into it hahaha

[Somethindarker]

Originally Posted by Ashe Nei

Reading what you just wrote i had a thought.

What if Freiya and Syr are and entity as a whole that has been divided into 2 individuals? Maybe the Freiya's part was the one retaining the goddess aspect (her memory before the "separation") and some dubious personality traits meanwhile Syr retains keeps some other traits of the "late" Goddess Freiya as a whole?

I know that's some crazy theory here, and that it has some problems and holes (the other gods and godesses should've realized if it has happened isn't?) but well... Killing some time, don't read too much into it hahaha

She doesn't necessarily have to be connected to Freya that way Syr could be one of many things other than some reincarnation/child to Freya. Personally I'm thinking she's probably an Oracle or "Fae" like entity that Freya is keeping an eye on at least that's what I've gotten from the clues we've seen so far.

[Twi]

What happens to a Familia whose God is killed? Do they all lose their blessings?

[Corvo269]

Originally Posted by Twi

What happens to a Familia whose God is killed? Do they all lose their blessings?

Last time I checked, a killed God will ascend back to heaven Without Being able to Descend anymore. If That Is the Case, It Won't matter whether the familia lose Their blessing Or not, Since They Lost The only person That Could update Their Status. They would have to switch To Another Familia for Them To Move Forward.

[Zefyris]

They lose their blessing immediately, yes. They become normal humans as long as they aren't into a new familia again.
If they are recruited in another familia, after the ceremony to join the family, they will get back the level and stats/skill/magic they had already gathered, they don't start back from zero.

[Amuris]

Is that how it works? That sounds counter-intuitive. I thought the blessing only brought the potential and experience inside them to the surface. Once it's there, it seems dumb to need to god to keep it there.

[Corvo269]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

They lose their blessing immediately, yes. They become normal humans as long as they aren't into a new familia again.
If they are recruited in another familia, after the ceremony to join the family, they will get back the level and stats/skill/magic they had already gathered, they don't start back from zero.

Originally Posted by Amuris

Is that how it works? That sounds counter-intuitive. I thought the blessing only brought the potential and experience inside them to the surface. Once it's there, it seems dumb to need to god to keep it there.

I partly agree with Amuris. I thought their stats would remain would them even if they lose the blessing