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Old 2015-08-06, 22:06   Link #581
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Just so your not taken by surprise, Saten Ruiko only appears in railgun series, and is only hinted in the light novel.

True that the railgun series does an OK job on Mikoto's friends. Though I think officially its a spin off/side story to the novel. It does follow the sister arc to how it was in the novel. Overall, I think the Railgun series would have been more worth it if it had followed novel's story line a bit more.

I wonder if they'll ever do Index III, they have so much material they need to do a 26 episode season, probably enough to finish the OT novel.
Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it .

So much stuff to do this month; Index II, Railgun S, Railgun movie > Light Novels [50 or more volumes in total].

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Well if you enjoy Railgun then that's fine, I was raising it as the two seasons are so very, very different. Sadly I couldn't bring myself to like the first one.

Index is better in the novels, all of the characters are. The story is too, like that second arc (where Touma and Styil infiltrate the cram school), most of that novel was cut, it's really grim, psychotic and dark in the novels. So it's all worth reading over.
Was it IMPORTANT information that will be used later on? Like foreshadowing?
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Old 2015-08-07, 10:41   Link #582
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Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it .

So much stuff to do this month; Index II, Railgun S, Railgun movie > Light Novels [50 or more volumes in total].



Was it IMPORTANT information that will be used later on? Like foreshadowing?
Not that I can think of, but what I felt was important is that they cut the most entertaining element of the novel and left the less exciting part of it.
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Old 2015-08-07, 13:45   Link #583
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Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it .Was it IMPORTANT information that will be used later on? Like foreshadowing?
There's initial info about Magic Gods in early volumes, but that doesn't come into play until much later. Volume 2 makes it clear that the dragon from Deep Blood arc wasn't just Izzard's imagination. You will also miss a few explanations about how things work and Aleister Crowley that were omitted in the anime. If you have the time I suggest you read them to get the whole picture and avoid being confused later.
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Old 2015-08-07, 15:44   Link #584
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I'm just going to elaborate on some of the differences in volume 2 in how the characters are represented.

*spoilers, kind of, talking in broad strokes*

The novels really build the character relationships and kind of differently. Like Index is quite over familiar and Touma sort of struggles with her. There is this whole section where he is trying to figure out their friendship and she is, more or less, a chore for him. You don't get any of that in the anime.

Same with Styil, when he appears in that volume there is this whole "should I be trusting this guy" thing and Touma is noticeably worried about what his life was like pre memory loss. He questions who is was.

Then the section in the cram school is much bigger, the whole "front for a religious cult" thing is worked into it differently and it becomes psychotic, turning into a blood bath. This changes the tone of that volume entirely.

This kind of thing runs through the novels and it makes a big, big difference to the characters. They won't be unrecognisable if you switch over to the novels where the anime left off, but the difference in characterisation, their relationships, tone and how they approach each other will be noticeable if you don't.
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Old 2015-08-09, 00:52   Link #585
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Not that I can think of, but what I felt was important is that they cut the most entertaining element of the novel and left the less exciting part of it.
I just finished watching the second season of Index and oh man! I was yelling when accelerator was getting beat left and right... he's being nerfed so bad -_- for some reason it just doesn't fit his character... i want to see accelerator back -.-

Tomorrow i'm going to start railgun S so i can watch the movie then jump into the light novels.

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There's initial info about Magic Gods in early volumes, but that doesn't come into play until much later. Volume 2 makes it clear that the dragon from Deep Blood arc wasn't just Izzard's imagination. You will also miss a few explanations about how things work and Aleister Crowley that were omitted in the anime. If you have the time I suggest you read them to get the whole picture and avoid being confused later.
Sounds good.
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Old 2015-08-09, 06:05   Link #586
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eh nerfted? Accelerator is still the strongest esper. He is just crippled right now.

True, his nerfted but its not that bad. It just gave him time limit on rampage hell.
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Old 2015-08-09, 16:43   Link #587
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eh nerfted? Accelerator is still the strongest esper. He is just crippled right now.

True, his nerfted but its not that bad. It just gave him time limit on rampage hell.
Plus he gets his "wings", he gets his shit back together. I wouldn't call him nerfed either, just balanced so that he can function alongside the others without it being stupid (like whatever it is, just throw accelerator at it). Big power, time limitation.
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Old 2015-08-12, 23:11   Link #588
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Regarding St Germain's punching-holes-in-people magic, does that actually cause lasting damage or does the holes close once the spears pass through?
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Old 2015-08-12, 23:37   Link #589
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We will never know as that issues wasn't given focus.
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Old 2015-08-13, 06:41   Link #590
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Lol Kamachi made more questions than answers in that volume XD.
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Old 2015-08-13, 08:12   Link #591
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Regarding St Germain's punching-holes-in-people magic, does that actually cause lasting damage or does the holes close once the spears pass through?
There is an answer for that question. St Germain is able to do it in a way that causes no lasting damage, since the people who had holes opened by its magic in its first confrontation with Touma returned to normal once it decided grabbing Kanou was more important.
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Now, if the question is if it could cause harm with it by deciding to not close the holes, there's no actual evidence either way since the "make a tunnel" is only a way for the spikes to reach their targets (the real attacks are the spikes). Common sense would say that yes, it's likely possible for it to do so.
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Old 2015-08-18, 22:22   Link #592
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Prior to the reveal of Rikou's potential ability, did it ever say that Accel was the ONLY esper capable of achieving Level 6?
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Old 2015-08-18, 23:17   Link #593
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I think the series said that Accelerator would have the best chance of reaching level 6 first, according to tree diagram.
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Old 2015-08-19, 00:56   Link #594
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Prior to the reveal of Rikou's potential ability, did it ever say that Accel was the ONLY esper capable of achieving Level 6?
As far as i know only gensei said this, it contradicts with kakine as plan B, nervermind, what do you mean with "rikous potential"? That she can bevome a Lvl6 too? Because until now it was only confirmed that she could become a Lvl5 (and the strongest Lvl5 to boot) :/
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Old 2015-08-19, 01:25   Link #595
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Accelerator is the best/fastest chance of getting to Level 6, but not the only one. The others would take 400 years or something if by themselves.

Rikou goes beyond that because they hypothesize that she could give and take their abilities.
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Old 2015-08-19, 09:02   Link #596
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Accelerator is the best/fastest chance of getting to Level 6, but not the only one. The others would take 400 years or something if by themselves.
? this goes against what was stated in railgun, otherwise mikoto wouldnt have been doomed to death, if what you said is correct than, (since the experiment only gave more calculation powers (which should show up later too)) it should simply end with her as Lvl6...
instead gensei said that she will collapse, accel doesnt seem to be the fastest but instead the only choice for the creation of a "save"-lvl6
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Rikou goes beyond that because they hypothesize that she could give and take their abilities.
they said that she can give Lvl0's Lvl5 abilitys
(which dont make sense unless she can also enhance calculation powers, because, giving someone accels abilitys wont result in them being able to use that power, i wonder if it would result in anything :/),
and she can take the ability of others away...
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Old 2015-08-19, 09:09   Link #597
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Is that restricted to purely espers or is it anyone with abilities like the magic side. But I doubt she would affect Touma because he's an unknown category like how Hideoyoshi is considered both male and female by looks.
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Old 2015-08-19, 09:48   Link #598
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Is that restricted to purely espers or is it anyone with abilities like the magic side. But I doubt she would affect Touma because he's an unknown category like how Hideoyoshi is considered both male and female by looks.
Pretty sure it's just esper powers.
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Old 2015-08-19, 20:07   Link #599
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? this goes against what was stated in railgun, otherwise mikoto wouldnt have been doomed to death, if what you said is correct than, (since the experiment only gave more calculation powers (which should show up later too)) it should simply end with her as Lvl6...
instead gensei said that she will collapse, accel doesnt seem to be the fastest but instead the only choice for the creation of a "save"-lvl6
Anything that forces you to go beyond your current abilities in oneshot tends to do that.

Even Accelerator's program would have taken him several years to complete depending on the rate of experiments per week.
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Old 2015-08-19, 20:50   Link #600
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I wonder how long did tree diagram said it would take for him to finish this program called level 6 shift. By the time Touma came into the picture, he was over half way done killing off the clones.
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