High School DxD Light Novel - Volume 20

[jopjopjop]

Originally Posted by aw454wtr

Vol 20 that has not been translated at all has 126 pages on this forums while vol 19 that is being translated only has 63 pages, that some major difference there

That's because unlike v19 where the contents of it just trickled out with spoilers here and there, the content of the whole v20 was able to be discussed in a matter of days after the volume was released.

Before v20 was released, the page count of this thread was 39.

[Biohazardous]

I doubt vol 19 will get a lot of action even once fully translated. It would have been fine if it was done before vol 20. With us having and knowing what's in vol 20 it weakens what's going on in vol 19 in comparison.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Biohazardous

I doubt vol 19 will get a lot of action even once fully translated. It would have been fine if it was done before vol 20. With us having and knowing what's in vol 20 it weakens what's going on in vol 19 in comparison.

Thats true but vol 19 is also very weak. the amount of discussion you can actually have is extremely limited. Even with the current translations it really is a letdown. 18 was weak as well. Vol 20 gives us a bunch of events that are really good and even with what we currently know its a solid volume and everything else is icing on the cake.

[Direwolf18]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Thats true but vol 19 is also very weak. the amount of discussion you can actually have is extremely limited. Even with the current translations it really is a letdown. 18 was weak as well. Vol 20 gives us a bunch of events that are really good and even with what we currently know its a solid volume and everything else is icing on the cake.

This. So much awesomeness happens in 20 that we can theorycraft about for months to come.

Plus we have a really really good summary about 20 so we can have in depth nuts and bolts discussions.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

This. So much awesomeness happens in 20 that we can theorycraft about for months to come.

Plus we have a really really good summary about 20 so we can have in depth nuts and bolts discussions.

Direwolf thats what most of you guys do anyway. I gotta admit i'm stupified at how sometimes before volumes are even out you guys spend 15-20 pages talking about things that could or should happen.

[DragonOsman]

That's because it's fun to discuss those things. You should participate, too, you know? Might make it more fun.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

I do participate not as much as some of you but i do

[Ariel_Saeba]

Originally Posted by Hk1117

Unless there is another Longinus that is an external manifestation-type, Tiamat cannot possibly have one.

Besides, why would she need one? she's the strongest (or atleast close second) among the Dragons who're actively involved in the world.

Perhaps Telos Karma is, just like Sephiroth Graal. After all, Tiamat's nickname is Chaos Karma Dragon, right? I think it makes sense and adds more twist other than, let's say, a Longinus detector.

[anifreik]

Originally Posted by Ariel_Saeba

Perhaps Telos Karma is, just like Sephiroth Graal. After all, Tiamat's nickname is Chaos Karma Dragon, right? I think it makes sense and adds more twist other than, let's say, a Longinus detector.

Thing is, you have to be at least part human in your origin to have a sacred gear/longinus. Tiamat has always been a dragon, therefore she cannot have one.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by anifreik

Thing is, you have to be at least part human in your origin to have a sacred gear/longinus. Tiamat has always been a dragon, therefore she cannot have one.

She can if they acquired it from the original possessor. Sairaorg and Azazel aren't even partly humans and they can use it.

I don't think she has a Longinus though. At least I don't see any evidence to it.

[The 48th Ronin]

I thought Sacred Gears are made to protect humanity.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by Captain Orange

I thought Sacred Gears are made to protect humanity.

I don't think it was ever said why they were made exactly.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

She can if they acquired it from the original possessor. Sairaorg and Azazel aren't even partly humans and they can use it.

I don't think she has a Longinus though. At least I don't see any evidence to it.

Sairaorg reincarnated Regulus into a Devil.

Azazel created his Sacred Gears.

[Ariel_Saeba]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

She can if they acquired it from the original possessor. Sairaorg and Azazel aren't even partly humans and they can use it.

I don't think she has a Longinus though. At least I don't see any evidence to it.

Yep, thanks for correcting Chichi.

But from Shiva's reaction when he saw the phone, I guess it has to be related to a Longinus or something.

[The 48th Ronin]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

I don't think it was ever said why they were made exactly.

I read somewhere in earlier volumes that SGs are "emergency weapons" created by Bible God to be used by humans to defend themselves in case he dies, or if Heaven is defeated in the war.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by B214

Sairaorg reincarnated Regulus into a Devil.

Azazel created his Sacred Gears.

Reynare used Twilight Healing.

[Biohazardous]

Originally Posted by Captain Orange

I read somewhere in earlier volumes that SGs are "emergency weapons" created by Bible God to be used by humans to defend themselves in case he dies, or if Heaven is defeated in the war.

That is the case. They were created to give humans a chance at defending themselves since the other factions are so much stronger.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

Reynare used Twilight Healing.

She extracted them from Asia but that's just a normal SG, remember what Azazel said when Valerie had her Longinus extracted, the extraction of a Longinus and a Sacred Gear is of different scale.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by B214

She extracted them from Asia but that's just a normal SG, remember what Azazel said when Valerie had her Longinus extracted, the extraction of a Longinus and a Sacred Gear is of different scale.

It was still doable. And Rizevim was still able to use the Sephirot Grail or whatever it's called, so yeah. Being harder to do isn't the same as being impossible.

And just to clarify, I don't think she has a Longinus with her. I'm just saying it isn't impossible for her to have one if she extracted it from the original possessor.

[anifreik]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

Reynare used Twilight Healing.

Reynare stole Twilight Healing, she never actually used it. Issei and Rias killed her first. Which begs the question, if she could have used it, wouldn't it have healed her while Issei was kicking her ass?