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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - Episode 02 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 4 | 6.35% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 30 | 47.62% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 26.98% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 17.46% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.59% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-10-11, 18:54 | Link #101 |
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While the attack was due to Kudelia being there, Mikazuki doesn't feel that his comrades died just for her sake. My guess is that he doesn't want to acknowledge the idea that her one life is worth the deaths of his comrades. That's why he doesn't need her thanks because he's not fighting just for her. Her safety is simply a bonus.
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2015-10-11, 18:55 | Link #102 | ||
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2015-10-11, 18:59 | Link #103 | ||
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I didn't notice they we're eating well either at first until I watched the episode again and saw that the Third Group doesn't eat the same as the First Group. While the First Group were all eating tacos and burgers and large meals, the Third Group were eating stew or some kind of mush. The eat regularly, but they don't eat as much as they should, especially considering their still kids. Quote:
Kudelia is not exactly that way, but she's in that same vein. She's pretty suspicious to me too. I don't like how she wasn't seen for most of the fight and then only showed up after with only a flesh wound.
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2015-10-11, 18:59 | Link #104 |
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Something for everyone. All this with mechas, too. Probably one of the reasons they brought in Nagai Tatsuyuki (Railgun, etc.) to direct and Okada Mari (Ano Natsu, etc.) to be lead writer. To appeal to more tastes, and to make the emotional landscape a bit broader. Suits me. I'm enjoying this Gundam. But waiting for some of the "human trash" and the princess to find a way out of this hell-hole.
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2015-10-11, 19:09 | Link #105 | |
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True, Kudelia meant well, but it came out as an insult to Mika, who thinks about things in a different way than she does. To him this is his life and he and his comrades are only about each other. For her to think that all of his brothers died because of her, doesn't compute to him.
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2015-10-11, 19:14 | Link #107 | ||
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We also have an overweight guy on their team. (Sure, that's also a form of malnourishment, but I think we meant specifically undernourishment.) So, I think, even with the quality of the food not being as good or tasty as it could be, they are still getting the required nutrition to live and do their job. |
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2015-10-11, 19:14 | Link #108 | |
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Mikazuki however understands that the reason they fought, and the reason they died, was for one another. They were attacked by Gjallerhorn and fought back to preserve each other's lives, simple as that. It had nothing to do with Kudelia.
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2015-10-11, 19:16 | Link #109 | |
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If anyone is being a fool here, its Mika. Sigh, I want Kudelia to yell at him. Forgot that, I want to do that myself. lol Don't be so willing to push away someone whos trying to help. Lord knows, you luckless orphans need all the allies you can get. If all these orphans do is aimlessly wonder from battle to battle, they are all going to get killed. Thankfully, Orga seems well aware of this and is planning a coup. LOL, your absolutly right. It is sort of like Kudelia and Mika talking past one another. Last edited by bigdeath; 2015-10-11 at 19:34. |
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2015-10-11, 19:21 | Link #110 | |
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Now, if they are going on the offensive (such as whatever Orga is planning), then they should know the reason, but that's a different issue than the one Mikazuki and Kudelia are discussing in this episode. |
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2015-10-11, 19:21 | Link #111 | ||||||
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He looks out for Mika and the others more than anything else. He's willing to stage a coup for them to live, but yet he's willing to call it off entirely and continue to suffer on the off chance that Mika refuses. And even though he knows Mika would probably go along with it, he's still surprised when Mika just takes the gun from him, no-questions-asked Quote:
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Also its more or less in the 3rd Groups job contract to look after her. If they die then so be it, thats what they were taking on when they got that contract |
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2015-10-11, 19:22 | Link #112 | |
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And, yeah, count me among those those who don't understand the poor reception to Kudelia's character (not specific to this thread, but in general). The girl's not perfect, certainly, but can you at least acknowledge that she's genuinely trying her best? It's still early in the series, so it's only natural that she stumble along the way. From people suggesting that she's been doing this purely for the sake of bolstering her own confidence to people being annoyed when tried to apologise for what she believed was her fault, the poor girl doesn't really get a break. You can't expect her to properly understand the boys when she's known them for- what, a few days? (PS:I had to blow off a little steam. I'm sorry if I came off as rude.) |
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2015-10-11, 19:25 | Link #113 |
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Trust me, I hate commerials too however this site has very brief commercials. I think I saw only 2 30 sec commerials at midway points. Its much less than what you get on crunchroll and the quality of the stream is pretty good. I recommend the site, its better than watching on youtube, if you can even access it. Plus its anime with official English subs online for free. Totally legal. Its something to support.
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2015-10-11, 19:31 | Link #114 | |
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Has she been naive and idealistic? Yes, but those are hardly reason to hate her, plus she is actually aware for her flaws and has been trying to change it even before meeting Mika and the others. Also she already show signs of actually having a brain, that's really progressive for this type of things. |
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2015-10-11, 19:32 | Link #115 |
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Really great episode. Loved how gritty the fight was, with dust being kicked up everywhere.
Orga and Mika are the best Gundam protagonists I've seen. Orga is just the right mix of charismatic, ambitious, and empathetic to make you root for him and love him, but you can feel that somewhere down the line he's going to make a mistake and choose the wrong path. Mika is your Heero/Setsuna done right. Stoic, but not completely inhuman. He's seen a lot of shit and has found his reason to live and fight. However, I'm sure his reasons will change once he gains more perspective. I'm eagerly anticipating the Coup d'état storyline we're getting set up for. |
2015-10-11, 19:37 | Link #116 | |
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It's completely okay that Mika and his group of orphans are simply fighting for their own lives and for a better life for themselves. They don't have to have some huge noble goal of "saving the world" or even "saving the princess", they can be fighting for themselves and their brothers. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. You have to realize that Mika and his friends have had no one to lean on but themselves, and they're not about to change that mindset because some princess kindheart comes in their midst, especially one as naive has her. And her making a comment like that that for them is an insult, doesn't do anything to make them want to like her more, much less trust her.
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2015-10-11, 19:37 | Link #117 |
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Kudelia isn't just on their side, she's advocating for all the poverty stricken children as well. The CGS kids are abused and have a short-life expectancy, but they know they'll get food, water, and shelter. Others aren't that fortunate, as was shown.
She knows how bad things are, but also knows she only has one viewpoint and chose them because she was hoping to get their viewpoint. Never once did she express that what they were doing was wrong, only that she wanted to know why for her own curiosity so she could understand them better. She blames herself directly because they were attacking to kill her (her father being a coward), but Mika sums it up that they were attacked and attacked back for the sake of those who were killed and so they weren't killed as well. It could have been communicated better, but Mika just lost over 30 people he considered family with and more injured in the attack on their home. He doesn't want to hear apologies for that. On another note: Why were Biscuit's two prepubescent sisters on a long stretch of road heading to a PMC base on their own? Leaving aside the fact that Atra could drive, because this is the type of show where children get shafted into a lot of mature roles to survive, but how did they even get that far without so much as a backpack on them? Did they tell their parents?
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2015-10-11, 19:38 | Link #118 | |
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If so Ill check it out, beats waiting around several hours before I can watch it on other anime sites |
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2015-10-11, 19:43 | Link #119 | ||
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Kurdelia however is still right. Gilhorn only attacked because she was at the base. Mika's comrades wouldn't have had to fight and die (at least in this battle) if she wasn't there. So even if indirectly, she feels partly responsibly for their deaths. Quote:
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