(L) Mushoku Tensei -Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu- [WN]

[MinusVitamin]

Originally Posted by devil_444

I don't think Sieg is going to be a Juggernaut.I think he will be a Magical Knight that he will mostly used North God Style and Saint Dragon Touki.His fighting style most likely be same as Sasuke or Kakashi from (Naruto).

Rudeus is a human, thus cannot use magic as efficiently than his body permits. He already mentioned this once though i'm going to have to dig that quote up.
If he was part demon though... that will be a completely different story, and he wouldn't have struggle so much against Fighting God.
Dude, so its possible for him to use Saint Dragon Touki but it is impossible for him to not be able to use magic well?

Originally Posted by devil_444

he may have a chance to become the strongest physical miko ever by overcharging his touki"

No. As much as i love bro Zanoba, I don't want anyone to be titled starting with "Head Ripping...." as their name.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by MinusVitamin

Rudeus is a human, thus cannot use magic as efficiently than his body permits. He already mentioned this once though i'm going to have to dig that quote up.

I think it might have been Badigadi who told him it was impossible for him to use magic the same way as Laplace.
Back when Rudeus was doing his morning sword practice and Badigadi ask him why does he bother with the sword.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by devil_444

Personally I think Seig can Specialize in Both Sword and Magic he could become the Magic Knight I mean his Great Grandmother is a Magic Knight.And the reason Rudeus gave up on sword techniques is because he can't wear Touki.Unlike Aurs and Lara, Seig has the willpower and determination to learn Sword techniques.He might become the 4th North God or at least reach the same level as Eris.
And about magic I think Because of Laplace factor he could easily master all of King Ranked and Emperor Ranked magic.

the Magic Knight thing is just a title, it is not like there anything specific about it.

Also Since Sieg has the Laplace factor, he can't use touki.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

the Magic Knight thing is just a title, it is not like there anything specific about it.

Also Since Sieg has the Laplace factor, he can't use touki.

If he really is a miko like Zanoba then he probably doesn't need touki.

[Hakatri]

Originally Posted by Hokoga

If he really is a miko like Zanoba then he probably doesn't need touki.

Touki is magic as so do are blessings, since Zanoba can use magic and it doesnt debilitate his touki (or at least nobody mentions it, maybe he never realizes since he doesnt use magic to fight) we may consider the touki blessing as an excedding amount of magic always set in physical reinforcement

So about manga chapter 17

http://truyenv1.com/mushoku-tensei-i...-dasu-chap-17/

Looks like that naked guy opening his eyes in chapter 16 was indeed Hitogami but the idea of him being pixelated was played as a joke of his obscenesque-like appearance, however with that naked figure and only the eyes pixelated he indeed looks like a porn actor

Hitogami doesnt seems to be struggling while talking with Rudeus like he was in the LN (please believeeee meeeee! - no way, you are suspicious as fuck) and Rudeus looks too scared of Ruijerd when they first meet, it takes a lot from their interactions

Originally Posted by FIBC

manga chapter 18 is out

Spoiler for gess who?:

I pictured Perugius more like Baan of Dai no Daibouken with more muscle and a little less age

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I will search a better image later but that guy surely had some sanpaku eyes

[MinusVitamin]

"Still your magic power quantity!! It's above Laplace you know." ~ Kishirika
Upon her first time meeting Rudeus

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

the Magic Knight thing is just a title, it is not like there anything specific about it.

Also Since Sieg has the Laplace factor, he can't use touki.

Sylphy can wear Touki

Originally Posted by Hokoga

I think it might have been Badigadi who told him it was impossible for him to use magic the same way as Laplace.
Back when Rudeus was doing his morning sword practice and Badigadi ask him why does he bother with the sword.

No i think it was during when Rudeus was int he Demon Continent with Ruijerd. I'm not going to bother finding it, but he was comparing himself to a old car with an advanced fuel tank. Something like that.

Originally Posted by Hokoga

If he really is a miko like Zanoba then he probably doesn't need touki.

Not sure if its touki or not, but Hitogami did say Mikos have an odd flow of magic. I guess its technically touki since the basis is the same; magic. I mean what other explanation is there? Ki?
I still like to think that Sieg is just simply talented with using touki. Mikos tend to have problems in society due to their powers.

[Hokoga]

Originally Posted by Hakatri

I pictured Perugius more like Baan of Dai no Daibouken with more muscle and a little less age

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[Hakatri]

Originally Posted by MinusVitamin

No i think it was during when Rudeus was int he Demon Continent with Ruijerd. I'm not going to bother finding it, but he was comparing himself to a old car with an advanced fuel tank. Something like that.

Not sure if its touki or not, but Hitogami did say Mikos have an odd flow of magic. I guess its technically touki since the basis is the same; magic. I mean what other explanation is there? Ki?
I still like to think that Sieg is just simply talented with using touki. Mikos tend to have problems in society due to their powers.

Rudeus cant use powers like Laplace did simply because he has not the body to do it, since the dragon tribe always looks like members of a similar race despite being reincarnated is safe to assume they wake up their factors inside their new bodies and modify them to become like their originals so with just the magic power Rudeus lacks the body to use magic the same way as Laplace did, its like someone trying to imitate Badigadi´s figthing style (he has not one but its just an example) and fail to replicate a technique that require six arms and a healing factor

Badigadi comfirmed that touki is magic power infused into the body

Originally Posted by Hokoga

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Thanks, i knew somehing was not quite right

So there are some more images of Vearn from Dai no Daibouken, his name changes in every translation i see but for me he really looks like Perugius because of those eyes, the long hair and the fact that he also was a long lived king/god with a flying fortress, also his arch enemy was a sealed dragon god and has a main servand who is kind of a spirit in a special body

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Vearn also had an attack called Kaiser Phoenix that moved like a living being but was just a fire attack with too much power and style, i dont remmember when but as a joke Rudeus mentions that he may be able to learn it

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[InMyOwnMind]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

the Magic Knight thing is just a title, it is not like there anything specific about it.

Also Since Sieg has the Laplace factor, he can't use touki.

Yes he can, remember that Sylphy also has the laplace factor and yet she can use touki. She may not be talented with it like Eris, never the less she can use it.

[Hakatri]

I was re-reading the redundancy chapters and the second one of Norn´s wedding totally needs a Ruijerd´s point of view, something like

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Rudeus came to my house and we started chatting, however he keept bringing the topic of her sister getting married and keeps hinting at me, could it be that he noticed?

Then he says a man has to defeat him in order to marry her and after i heard that my mind goes blank

Rudeus always avoids battles if he can but he attacked the Shirone palace for his sister, conquered an impossible labyrinth for his mother and challenged the Dragon God for his wives and kids, everytime it comes downt to his family he will display a frightening force

And when i think of it he has never fought for Norn, maybe he would actually kill me?

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And then they fight and Ruijerd is like "He wasnt even using his demonic eye nor his magic" "He was just testing my guts"



I dont know you guys but i really loved those points of view were people missunderstood Rudeus and took him for some kind of evil mastermind/dark lord in the making

[MinusVitamin]

"After putting together the stories I heard from Badigadi and Kishirika, it seems my aggregate amount of magic power is in the realm of God class.


However, that absolutely doesn't mean that I myself can be considered God class.

In my case, it's almost like attaching a passenger plane's fuel tank onto an average car.

No matter how long it runs it won't stop, but the speed won't increase.

Along with the fuel tank, if you throw on the jet engine as well, this time the body of the car won't hold together.

From a design standpoint it would be a piece of junk."



I found it!!!

[Hakatri]

I just finished a fanart of Rudeus as the Evil Bancho but i must wait to see images of Badigadi and Cliff to make the Evil Bancho + Six Demons Council

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[kaisis]

Originally Posted by Hakatri

I just finished a fanart of Rudeus as the Evil Bancho but i must wait to see images of Badigadi and Cliff to make the Evil Bancho + Six Demons Council

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Great Job on the shabby attire.

[Ladiusman]

Well, out of boredom I decided to create this list on the Greyrat family's wide spectrum of hair color.

Auburn: Lilia, Aisha

Brown: Paul, Rudeus, Lucy

Blonde: Zenith, Norn

Blue: Roxy, Lara, Lili

Green: Sieg, Ruijerd, Luicelia

Red: Eris, Ars, Christina (maybe)

White: Slyphy

Anyone I missed?

[MinusVitamin]

Originally Posted by devil_444

............... And about magic I think Because of Laplace factor he could easily master all of King Ranked and Emperor Ranked magic.

"The eye color is different. Even his magic capacity isn't much impressive.

And even that annoying curse isn't there......a curse that can shake the innermost depths of one's heart."

It doesn't seem like sieg was born to hold much magic. Having potential to harbor magical energy is determined by birth, the rest you can improve while training. His potential is, at most, advanced rank or saint rank magic if he's tries hard enough.

Rudeus held great magic capacity before he was even born.

[Kutra]

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On his first attempt, Rudeus was barely able to create two water balls.

[MinusVitamin]

Rudeus was suppose to be stillborn because the soul was not capable of handling such a large amount of magic power, if it was magic exhaustion then why didn't he get any strands of white hair when he collapsed from creating water balls?

There maybe a difference between how much magic one can hold in their body, and how much of it can be used. If he didn't do his magic training at a young age, then he would only be about sylphy's level in magic capacity, which is still quite a lot.
As for Sieg, perhaps the only part of the laplace factor he got was the green hair.

[Waxman]

Rudeus hair didn't turn white the first time he used magic because he didn't push himself pass his limits he passed out before that happened, later when he fought Orsted or the Fighting God he pushed himself even after he was out of mana.
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Also, the fact that Sieg is a miko may be the result of the Laplace's factor.
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I know that from Lucy's POV Sieg only has superstrengh but if he is a miko like Zanoba the he also has steel-like skin.
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Laplace's body can only be harmed in his weak point that only the Speld/Supard can see with their "eye" or with Orsted's God Sword after all.

[kaisis]

Originally Posted by MinusVitamin

Rudeus was suppose to be stillborn because the soul was not capable of handling such a large amount of magic power, if it was magic exhaustion then why didn't he get any strands of white hair when he collapsed from creating water balls?

Rudi brought his mana to 0 with water balls.

Slyphy:
1. Broker her fall with a kind of explosion
2. Healed her injuries
3. Killed a monster in a panic.

In step 1 or 2, she already exhausted her mana. Plus the shock of the entire incident (finding herself up in the air and falling, having her maiden battle) contributed to the stress.

[MinusVitamin]

Originally Posted by Waxman

Rudeus hair didn't turn white the first time he used magic because he didn't push himself pass his limits he passed out before that happened, later when he fought Orsted or the Fighting God he pushed himself even after he was out of mana.
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Also, the fact that Sieg is a miko may be the result of the Laplace's factor.
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I know that from Lucy's POV Sieg only has superstrengh but if he is a miko like Zanoba the he also has steel-like skin.
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Laplace's body can only be harmed in his weak point that only the Speld/Supard can see with their "eye" or with Orsted's God Sword after all.

Nothing was mentioned about pushing past their limit whenever characters had white hair through magic exhaustion. It was just using nearly, or all of their magic.

I'm saying his hair isn't white because he didn't use up all his magic when he was dropping water balls, since his body holds a lot of it, he should've been able to cast more during that time before he fainted. He can hold a lot of magic, but that doesn't mean he can use all of it.

If Sieg is a miko, which were not sure yet, and if it was due to the Laplace Factor, then wouldn't his power involve fear inducement? Laplace Factor: Fear curse, Green hair, tremendous magic capacity, demon eye.

Laplace can be harmed, but can't be truly killed without a supard's third eye.


On another note:
From 257
"Q. If the President dies then would the current world keep on continuing? Or would it become like it never existed?
A. Until now, the outcome is that it never existed."

Soooo no alternate timelines? Oldeus's timeline never existed?