(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Eleutheria

First seat should win, but he should also think Souma needs to develop instead of being just his sous-chef. He should make him join the Elite Ten at a lower ranked seat - he would still be joining Central but not as an underling.

Azami would dismiss any Elite member who disagree with his ideal unless Soma is willingly to join him.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Azami would dismiss any Elite member who disagree with his ideal unless Soma is willingly to join him.

Yeah which is why I'm wondering why Eishi even made the offer in the first place.

[Golden_Witch]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Azami would dismiss any Elite member who disagree with his ideal unless Soma is willingly to join him.

I don't know.

Does Erina count as part of the Central?
According to the wiki, it's only up to Eizan.

If that is correct, then Azami cannot dismiss Soma, I think.
Without Erina, it's 6 members of Central within the elite 10.
If Soma becomes first, the superiority of the Elite 10 changes to 5-5.
Koga, Isshiki, Tosuke, Soma and Erina.
Even if he dismisses Soma, there'll be 5 central elites and 5 non-central elites.
Central is no longer in full control then.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Golden_Witch

I don't know.

Does Erina count as part of the Central?
According to the wiki, it's only up to Eizan.

If that is correct, then Azami cannot dismiss Soma, I think.
Without Erina, it's 6 members of Central within the elite 10.
If Soma becomes first, the superiority of the Elite 10 changes to 5-5.
Koga, Isshiki, Tosuke, Soma and Erina.
Even if he dismisses Soma, there'll be 5 central elites and 5 non-central elites.

You forgot that Azami said that he will replace the Elite 10 vacant with his pawns.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by Golden_Witch

I don't know.

Does Erina count as part of the Central?
According to the wiki, it's only up to Eizan.

If that is correct, then Azami cannot dismiss Soma, I think.
Without Erina, it's 6 members of Central within the elite 10.
If Soma becomes first, the superiority of the Elite 10 changes to 5-5.
Koga, Isshiki, Tosuke, Soma and Erina.
Even if he dismisses Soma, there'll be 5 central elites and 5 non-central elites.
Central is no longer in full control then.

Ishiki, Kuga and the other dude are no longer part of the Elite 10 so they really have no power to go against Central atm. Azami dismissed their ass for not voting for him.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, Azami's going to dismiss any member of the Elite 10 who doesn't agree with his views and (screwed-up) ideals. If Souma joins, he'll have to act like a mole within Central or get kicked out like Isshiki and those others did.

Anyway, yeah, it's either a tie or Souma lost. I hope Souma won, but it doesn't seem likely right now.

[Dysprosium]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, Azami's going to dismiss any member of the Elite 10 who doesn't agree with his views and (screwed-up) ideals. If Souma joins, he'll have to act like a mole within Central or get kicked out like Isshiki and those others did.

You're not looking at the big picture.

Ultimately, Aizen wants Souma on his side, due to the latter's relation to a certain Senpai.

Given Souma's reckless tendencies (without even thinking of the consequences/implications ahead), Aizen can easily exploit this "weakness" of his, like expulsion to him or his friends, by just dangling a carrot. It's just that simple.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Azami also ultimately wants Erina and perhaps what could happen and may happen is Soma loses and as he's about to join central Erina offers to take Soma's place.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Azami also ultimately wants Erina and perhaps what could happen and may happen is Soma loses and as he's about to join central Erina offers to take Soma's place.

That doesn't even makes sense. First of Erina already is an Elite 10 and thus can be considered a Central member already. And second, Azami already knows Erina is staying at the PSD and let her continue to do so. Do you really believe a bunch of students can keep him from getting his daughter if he really wanted her. He's not worried of letting her stay there knowing she'll come back to him eventually.

[Golden_Witch]

It's all up to Erina, to be fair. If she intends to keep being manipulated or decide for herself.
And honestly, anything except her going against Azami should be disregarded. Shouldn't even be an "if", so I'll correct mysef on that but more a when.

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

That doesn't even makes sense. First of Erina already is an Elite 10 and thus can be considered a Central member already. And second, Azami already knows Erina is staying at the PSD and let her continue to do so. Do you really believe a bunch of students can keep him from getting his daughter if he really wanted her. He's not worried of letting her stay there knowing she'll come back to him eventually.

Exactly. So as Golden_Witch said, we just need to wait for when Erina can stand up to her Edgelord of a father of her own free will.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Azami would dismiss any Elite member who disagree with his ideal unless Soma is willingly to join him.

You overestimate his capabilities.I'd imagine Eishi would be the second most powerful person in the school.Azami is only so powerful as long as the majority of the elite ten members back him.Elite 10 members pretty much do what they pleases.They are pretty much loose cannons.The six guys agree with Azami's ideals in general,but that doesn't mean they accept infringement on their personal freedoms.Recruiting whoever they want as aides probably constitutes one of these freedoms.Satoshi was only dismissed because his ideals goes against the majority of the elite ten members.If Azami tries to dismiss Eishi,the other elite ten members might just have him sacked like they did with the old guy.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

You overestimate his capabilities.I'd imagine Eishi would be the second most powerful person in the school.Azami is only so powerful as long as the majority of the elite ten members back him.Elite 10 members pretty much do what they pleases.They are pretty much loose cannons.The six guys agree with Azami's ideals in general,but that doesn't mean they accept infringement on their personal freedoms.Recruiting whoever they want as aides is probably constitute one of these freedoms.Satoshi was only dismissed because his ideals goes against the majority of the elite ten members.If Azami tries to dismiss Eishi,the other elite ten members might just have him sacked like they did with the old guy.

Why would you think Eishi was the 2nd most powerful person in the school? I am pretty sure it was Rindo; the true elite 1. At this point Eishi is nothing but Rindo's play thing.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Why would you think Eishi was the 2nd most powerful person in the school? I am pretty sure it was Rindo; the true elite 1. At this point Eishi is nothing but Rindo's play thing.

It's more like Eishi is willing to tag along with Rindo's schemes or just don't care.If Eishi is deadset against her,we all know how it would end.Eishi isn't first seat for nothing.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

You're both wrong. Momo (little girl with the teddy bear) is the most powerful. Heh I actually like her more that Rindou or Eishi.

[Dysprosium]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

You overestimate his capabilities.

You're severely underestimating him.

The E10 are nothing but pawns in his hands.

They're pretty much disposable to him.

Assuming he has already chosen the 3 new Elites to his liking, Eishi is nothing more than a "glorified" chef in Tootsuki.

If he's still in power after this year, then it'd be almost impossible to topple him.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Dysprosium

You're severely underestimating him.

The E10 are nothing but pawns in his hands.

They're pretty much disposable to him.

Assuming he has already chosen the 3 new Elites to his liking, Eishi is nothing more than a "glorified" chef in Tootsuki.

If he's still in power after this year, then it'd be almost impossible to topple him.

Had to agree with you on this. I won't be surprised if Azami changing/replacing all the remaining elite members with the new characters in the upcoming chapters.

[Diluc]

To be clear guys, Azami has absolute right over E10 to dispose them or not.
E10 highest Powers limited to make their vote real with gather votes from other members.
Very unlikely too Azami did not devise any backup plan against E10 threat.
I don't think he will dispose the E6 in near time there have to be sort deal between E6 with Azami that assures their position in Azami reign.

[Hakai]

Azami is probably already prepared if/when majority of E10 turns against him.

I can totally see him going full Aizen troll mode at that time 'since when were you under the impression- - - - -'

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Roxis

To be clear guys, Azami has absolute right over E10 to dispose them or not.
E10 highest Powers limited to make their vote real with gather votes from other members.
Very unlikely too Azami did not devise any backup plan against E10 threat.
I don't think he will dispose the E6 in near time there have to be sort deal between E6 with Azami that assures their position in Azami reign.

Citations required.
You are all overestimating Azami as some sort of genius who has every plan for everything.The fact is,if the majority of the elite ten are dead set against him,he's done for.The only way he can properly rule is to stop antagonising the elite ten members too much.If he tries to dismiss the whole group collectively,he'd just wreck tootsuki.Tootsuki is more than just a structure,it's the people and the system it runs by that's important.Every single member of the elite ten have their own reputations and connections outside of the school.Even if the elite ten doesn't dismiss Azami,the mere act of them withdrawing from tootsuki altogether is enough to wreck Tootsuki's reputation as the best culinary school in Japan.However talented the candidates at central are,there's still a massive gap in general between a true elite ten member and a candidate given the amount of resources spent devoted towards a true elite ten member.Dismissing the current elite ten collectively would cripple the elite ten's quality for quite some time.If Azami tries to play foul with his supposed plans,it will lead to mutually assured destruction for both him and the elite ten.Besides,he still needs the guys to teach the students.His whole plan rests upon relying on the elite ten members to run the school.