Re:Zero - Episode 17 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[Applehell]

Spoiler for those who do not want to know happened after ep 17's cliffhanger:

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https://youtu.be/-wwGKyFYk70

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[Stark700]

Got legit chills from this week's episode especially the last 5 minutes of that Emilia scene...just wow.

[Seafoam]

I get the feeling that people have the wrong expectations for this episode considering all the fake spoilers that floated around this arc. It was still a great episode though.

[AB079]

^That's mostly because the people who eat the fake spoilers are new to the point they lurk on 4chan and even reddit for information, guaranteed fake spoilers.

I missed the stream so time to wait for the subs to comes out.

[Seihai]

Good episode. Again we get to see a lot of despair here. There are many new things here that need to be elaborated on. Why didn't those hands grab Subaru's heart like always? Why does Emilia die instead? Betty acted a bit strange, just how much does she actually know? Why did the White Whale let Subaru live? Mist shrouds things in mystery so I'm certain the erasure of Rem's existance along with some others are probably the Whale's ability. I wonder if there is a counter to that. Judging from that one scene in the OP sequence Subaru will definitely do better at recruiting at least 1 faction to help him take care of the White Whale in the next loop so I'm looking forward to that. This episode packs a lot of food for thought, I must say.

[Proto]

Crunchyroll subs are up. It was good as always. The whale's powers are plenty terrifying, Subaru should have enough clues to figure out what its power is by now but the poor guy should take a 5 minute break to process the information. He definitely is pressured for time but taking some time to decide what plan C (D? E?) is going to be would work wonders.. Heck, I really thought he would go and speak with Beatrice before going with Emilia, the previous arc should have shown him that the loli is a trove of inforrmation. Howeer given that the poor guy can't even articulate a coherent explanation of what's going on to Emilia I guess that's asking for much (just lie. Say that you got intel from Crusch that cultists were going to attack this location. Evacuate the villagers ASAP or have everyone turtle up in the mansion.)

And once again I just had to skip through Subaru's meeting with Emilia right through the end. Curse you vicarious embarrassment.

[bakato]

What took Pack so long to act?

[konart]

Originally Posted by Seihai

Good episode. Again we get to see a lot of despair here. There are many new things here that need to be elaborated on. Why didn't those hands grab Subaru's heart like always? Why does Emilia die instead? Betty acted a bit strange, just how much does she actually know? Why did the White Whale let Subaru live? Mist shrouds things in mystery so I'm certain the erasure of Rem's existance along with some others are probably the Whale's ability. I wonder if there is a counter to that. Judging from that one scene in the OP sequence Subaru will definitely do better at recruiting at least 1 faction to help him take care of the White Whale in the next loop so I'm looking forward to that. This episode packs a lot of food for thought, I must say.

Because it's Emilia he was talking to. So... lets show him that his life is not something he should worry about, no?

It's pretty obvious that it's Satella's way of saying "no is a no"

[Proto]

He has to be manually summoned outside of his 9-5pm working hours. He probably came on his own power after he noticed the contract stone had been broken.

[Arkard]

So many more things to muddy the waters. The hands from Subaru's Return by Death ability killing Emilia conflicts with her being the witch if the ability is truly from her. But then again, who knows, the hands being the same as Betelgeuse's makes me wonder if it's just a high ranking Witch Cult ability... which raises other speculation since one of the first things Betelgeuse asked Subaru was if he was Pride... also uh oh, Puck isn't in kawaii mode anymore... and Subaru is indirectly responsible for her death this time...

Also nghhhhh why must you be so amazing Rem...

[Proto]

Also nghhhhh why must you be so amazing Rem...

...Rem who?

[Arkard]

Originally Posted by Proto

...Rem who?

Touché

[SeaDoor]

I think this is now drifting uncomfortable close to being torture porn. Time to start acting less on impulse and more on thought or this is going to become unlikeably ugly.

BTW: instead of explaining his motivations as being from return from death, why not claim just to have visions of future events?

[Arkard]

Originally Posted by SeaDoor

I think this is now drifting uncomfortable close to being torture porn. Time to start acting less on impulse and more on thought or this is going to become unlikeably ugly.

BTW: instead of explaining his motivations as being from return from death, why not claim just to have visions of future events?

That would make sense if Subaru had the time to think everything through clearly. But he doesn't. It's like you said, he's acting on impulse. He's the most mentally and psychologically messed up of all the arcs yet and when you combine that with him bouncing between utter despair and rage fueled revenge, he can't think clearly at all. I think his next death should be enough to push him over the edge though.

[Twi]

Originally Posted by konart

Because it's Emilia he was talking to. So... lets show him that his life is not something he should worry about, no?

It's pretty obvious that it's Satella's way of saying "no is a no"

That's a Yandere for you. I mean, look at the way her hands were caressing him. It was like she was saying, "Subaru, why do you do make me do this to you?"

Anyway, it looks like the Unseen Hand is supposed to be invisible (which should be obvious when I think about the name), and apparently Rem was ret-goned by Moby Dick.

[Arkard]

Proto this is your fault I'll have you know:

Spoiler for .... yeah I think this series is starting to get to me...:

[aohige]

Next episode is titled "From Zero". Get hyped.
That was the chapter that turned normal novel readers into raving fans who won't shut the hell up.

[BladeMancer]

Video quality is atrocious, what the hell. I couldn't even see the white whale.

[Key Board]

how the heck are you going to kill a Crimson Denizen without a Flame Haze?