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Deacon Blues · 2006-06-13, 01:21

Argh... stop posting in bold dammit! It's fsnarking annoying!

tritoch · 2006-06-13, 01:44

That would be me I believe.

OmegaZEROCustom · 2006-06-13, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by frok

Just off the record, I think that Rey's Legend could definately own Shinn/Shawn's Destiny and maybe even Athrun/Alex's Infinite-Justice.

Shawn? Since when has Shinn ever been referred to as Shawn? Even the dub never went near that...and no need to call Athrun "Alex" seeing as he was referred to by that name in maybe 5 episodes not counting flashbacks...

Oh, and Deacon, I second that motion....posting in all bold is irritating as hell...

kira-sama · 2006-06-13, 10:22

i'm looking forward the fourth DVD ^_^

frok · 2006-06-13, 13:24

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Originally Posted by OmegaZEROCustom

Shawn? Since when has Shinn ever been referred to as Shawn? Even the dub never went near that...and no need to call Athrun "Alex" seeing as he was referred to by that name in maybe 5 episodes not counting flashbacks...

Oh, and Deacon, I second that motion....posting in all bold is irritating as hell...

I watched the dubb and only luna would call him shawn. At first I was hearing things then I heard it again and again. I think its pretty screwed up. What will his last name be now, Anderson???

OmegaZEROCustom · 2006-06-13, 13:29

When Luna mentions Shawn, that was another pilot that was killed. I know the scene you are talking about. I believe the other 2 pilots were in GUAiZ units. That was during the battle where the Minerva was running in that trench and Rey was still onboard the ship before they got trapped.

Shinn has ALWAYS been referred to as Shinn, dub or otherwise.

AnimePaul · 2006-06-14, 20:01

Sorry if this question has been asked already, but has anyone released a fansub of Episode 1 or any further episodes?

Deacon Blues · 2006-06-14, 23:32

"Soon." That's all I can say.

M_Flores · 2006-06-15, 01:41

Yo... what if Akatsuki got a front cover treatment instead of Legend?

vblaze101 · 2006-06-15, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnimePaul

Sorry if this question has been asked already, but has anyone released a fansub of Episode 1 or any further episodes?

Yeah, I was wondering why one hasn't been released yet. It might be because they're waiting for a DVD release first.

Deacon Blues · 2006-06-16, 01:01

Our sub is out =D

Enjoy.

vblaze101 · 2006-06-16, 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Our sub is out =D

Enjoy.

Hey, is this Deacon Blues from back at GOUF? Hey man thanks. I had no idea you had a sub out. Can always count on you, lol.

Deacon Blues · 2006-06-16, 02:10

Since the movies are different and unlicensed...

http://www.zeonic-corps.net/tracker/...b15ea360f29d57

[UKE]Auel · 2006-06-16, 02:35

wat? Zeonic-Corps released something? Gasp.

wingdarkness · 2006-06-16, 05:34

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Originally Posted by [UKE]Auel

wat? Zeonic-Corps released something? Gasp.

Don't Gasp too much, we all know you need that jaw because you like to keep "things" in your mouth

...Hi Kira^^...

@Decon_Blues - Congratulations...Good job...1 of your more truthful projects...Don't worry I will take my medicine like a big boy...A little birdie told me that your "otHer prOjEct" almost jepordized the release of this one so forgive me I wanted it to drop first before I made any move...Good thing you didn't give everyone a quick-link to your closet, I bet that's more suspect than GSD

...Anyways good job, can't wait to see it...

[UKE]Auel · 2006-06-16, 11:23

Duh, how else would I eat without my jaw.

kira-sama · 2006-06-16, 12:43

oh thanks thanks deacon blues
at last i can watch the subs
are you already subs the part1 and part 2???

megakim · 2006-06-16, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by kira-sama

oh thanks thanks deacon blues
at last i can watch the subs
are you already subs the part1 and part 2???

judging from the file size, it's the part1 and 2. Only small complaint is the file size

HEDGESMFG · 2006-06-16, 17:32

Alright, enough fuss and arguing in this thread, lets get back to a more serious review of the full subbed 'special':

Firstly, good job on your first fully subbed release ZC. Translation, timing video quality and all did the job quite nicely. Just don't let your divergence into the anime sub world take you off course from some of the kickass Manga releases we have been discussing recently ;P

Now, onto the actual Special/Compilation film itself...

Overall, it was fairly well done. While this is admittedly the better part of the show, everything flowed nicely, made sense, and the pace never actually felt too fast or too slow. I was saddened by the loss of episode 4 (one of the series better action episodes IMHO), but I can understand why it was dropped since it added nothing to the plot. The entire 'film' can be summed up into 4 different stories, all of which reach an approapriate peak by the conclusion:

1. How Athrun Zala went from being an Orb bodyguard to being a ZAFT pilot again.
2. How the peace between the Earth Alliance and ZAFT was finally shattered, and how the new war began.
3. How Shinn rose from being a pissed off trainee to a determined and passionate ZAFT ace pilot.
4. How Kira Yamato went from being a lost relic of the previous war to the ressurected warrior with convictions he once was.

When viewed from this perspective, the film accomplishes exactly what it needs to and manages to do so in a way that the average viewer can follow if they pay attention to what's happening. Naturally, a number of other sub-plots from the show are still in the film, while a few are either dropped or simply missing. Stellar's previous characterization and interaction with Shinn seems to be gone, and Muurue and Talia never get to meet face to face... which could change the way things turn out later on, or simply leave a blatent plothole in the future specials, but oh well. I also can't say I care for the fact that most of Shinn's dialogue is about his hatred for Orb, but I can let this shift slip since they said Athrun would be the focus (giving us a more definitive main character now), and since the slightly altered sequence where Shinn and Kira meet is actually a bit more touching and dramatic now that it's the FIRST time we see what happened to his family.

There are a lot of small reanimated sequences, many of which are on-par with the best of the stuff that the series produced, but none that are quite as mind-blowingly cool as the new animation in the first Zeta film or something like that. They all mesh in well though, and serve their purpose to enhance certain scenes a bit. It's nothing you absolutely MUST watch the film just to see, though. Any new scenes only serve as small modifications/extensions to already existing ones or placeholders to help move the plot along in place of an older cut event.

Overall, the film offers virtually nothing new to those who have seen the series but it manages to work suprisingly well as a piece that can be viewed and fully understood independent of the series. Unlike the first SEED specials, new viewers can watch this without having seen the actual television show and probably understand most of what's happenening... ESPECIALLY if they've already seen Gundam SEED. We'll see if the next 3 pieces can help to salvage some of the unorganized messes that Destiny and it's staff fell into during the production of the show.

Deacon Blues · 2006-06-16, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by megakim

judging from the file size, it's the part1 and 2. Only small complaint is the file size

Yeah... a good xvid will be the same size.

This is a DVD rip folks... there is no part 1 and 2. It's just like seed... one whole movie.

2006-06-13, 01:21	Link #381
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Argh... stop posting in bold dammit! It's fsnarking annoying! __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2006-06-14, 23:32	Link #388
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	"Soon." That's all I can say. __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2006-06-16, 01:01	Link #391
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Our sub is out =D Enjoy. __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2006-06-16, 02:10	Link #393
Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	Since the movies are different and unlicensed... http://www.zeonic-corps.net/tracker/...b15ea360f29d57 __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2006-06-13, 01:44	Link #382
tritoch 神 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-town	That would be me I believe.

2006-06-13, 10:22	Link #384
kira-sama Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	i'm looking forward the fourth DVD ^_^

2006-06-13, 13:29	Link #386
OmegaZEROCustom The Alpha and the Omega Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 39	When Luna mentions Shawn, that was another pilot that was killed. I know the scene you are talking about. I believe the other 2 pilots were in GUAiZ units. That was during the battle where the Minerva was running in that trench and Rey was still onboard the ship before they got trapped. Shinn has ALWAYS been referred to as Shinn, dub or otherwise.

2006-06-14, 20:01	Link #387
AnimePaul Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 36	Sorry if this question has been asked already, but has anyone released a fansub of Episode 1 or any further episodes?

2006-06-15, 01:41	Link #389
M_Flores Count of Monte Dorifto Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Isla De Monte Dorifto	Yo... what if Akatsuki got a front cover treatment instead of Legend?

2006-06-16, 02:35	Link #394
[UKE]Auel The Oncoming Storm Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 40	wat? Zeonic-Corps released something? Gasp.

2006-06-16, 11:23	Link #396
[UKE]Auel The Oncoming Storm Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 40	Duh, how else would I eat without my jaw.

2006-06-16, 12:43	Link #397
kira-sama Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	oh thanks thanks deacon blues at last i can watch the subs are you already subs the part1 and part 2???

2006-06-16, 17:32	Link #399
HEDGESMFG Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005	Alright, enough fuss and arguing in this thread, lets get back to a more serious review of the full subbed 'special': Firstly, good job on your first fully subbed release ZC. Translation, timing video quality and all did the job quite nicely. Just don't let your divergence into the anime sub world take you off course from some of the kickass Manga releases we have been discussing recently ;P Now, onto the actual Special/Compilation film itself... Overall, it was fairly well done. While this is admittedly the better part of the show, everything flowed nicely, made sense, and the pace never actually felt too fast or too slow. I was saddened by the loss of episode 4 (one of the series better action episodes IMHO), but I can understand why it was dropped since it added nothing to the plot. The entire 'film' can be summed up into 4 different stories, all of which reach an approapriate peak by the conclusion: 1. How Athrun Zala went from being an Orb bodyguard to being a ZAFT pilot again. 2. How the peace between the Earth Alliance and ZAFT was finally shattered, and how the new war began. 3. How Shinn rose from being a pissed off trainee to a determined and passionate ZAFT ace pilot. 4. How Kira Yamato went from being a lost relic of the previous war to the ressurected warrior with convictions he once was. When viewed from this perspective, the film accomplishes exactly what it needs to and manages to do so in a way that the average viewer can follow if they pay attention to what's happening. Naturally, a number of other sub-plots from the show are still in the film, while a few are either dropped or simply missing. Stellar's previous characterization and interaction with Shinn seems to be gone, and Muurue and Talia never get to meet face to face... which could change the way things turn out later on, or simply leave a blatent plothole in the future specials, but oh well. I also can't say I care for the fact that most of Shinn's dialogue is about his hatred for Orb, but I can let this shift slip since they said Athrun would be the focus (giving us a more definitive main character now), and since the slightly altered sequence where Shinn and Kira meet is actually a bit more touching and dramatic now that it's the FIRST time we see what happened to his family. There are a lot of small reanimated sequences, many of which are on-par with the best of the stuff that the series produced, but none that are quite as mind-blowingly cool as the new animation in the first Zeta film or something like that. They all mesh in well though, and serve their purpose to enhance certain scenes a bit. It's nothing you absolutely MUST watch the film just to see, though. Any new scenes only serve as small modifications/extensions to already existing ones or placeholders to help move the plot along in place of an older cut event. Overall, the film offers virtually nothing new to those who have seen the series but it manages to work suprisingly well as a piece that can be viewed and fully understood independent of the series. Unlike the first SEED specials, new viewers can watch this without having seen the actual television show and probably understand most of what's happenening... ESPECIALLY if they've already seen Gundam SEED. We'll see if the next 3 pieces can help to salvage some of the unorganized messes that Destiny and it's staff fell into during the production of the show.