(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[Log]

This chapter was IMO one of the best chapters we had in the Azami arc. Kuga and Souma interactions are fun as hell and I love how Kuga is still a fundamentally selfish character despite being on the good guy's side.

BTW everyone noticed the "bear" pun made right?

Originally Posted by Nvis

Say Soma wins the 9th seat. Central or other Elites can just kick/vote him out like the others.

That's actually be funny if it happened. Something like:

Azami: Please welcome our new ninth seat Souma Yukihira.
Souma: Hel-
Azami: Please say goodbye to your ninth seat Yukihira-san.
Souma: Wait what?
Azami: As someone defying central I simply can't allow someone like you to have such a high position of power. Of course I also consolidated my Elite 10 and they all came to the same conclusion.
Tsukasa: Sorry but you're too much trouble.
Momo: I don't like you.
Eizen: *glare*
Rindo: I voted to keep you but *shrug*
Souma: Well that wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be.
Kuga suddenly shows up out of nowhere.
Kuga: I'm here to challenge Yukihira for the position of 9th seat!
Souma: About that Kuga-sempai.....

And thus Souma sets the record for fastest Elite 10 to lose their spot.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Log

This chapter was IMO one of the best chapters we had in the Azami arc. Kuga and Souma interactions are fun as hell and I love how Kuga is still a fundamentally selfish character despite being on the good guy's side.

BTW everyone noticed the "bear" pun made right?



That's actually be funny if it happened. Something like:

Azami: Please welcome our new ninth seat Souma Yukihira.
Souma: Hel-
Azami: Please say goodbye to your ninth seat Yukihira-san.
Souma: Wait what?
Azami: As someone defying central I simply can't allow someone like you to have such a high position of power. Of course I also consolidated my Elite 10 and they all came to the same conclusion.
Tsukasa: Sorry but you're too much trouble.
Momo: I don't like you.
Eizen: *glare*
Rindo: I voted to keep you but *shrug*
Souma: Well that wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be.
Kuga suddenly shows up out of nowhere.
Kuga: I'm here to challenge Yukihira for the position of 9th seat!
Souma: About that Kuga-sempai.....

And thus Souma sets the record for fastest Elite 10 to lose their spot.

Soma: Azami-senpai, I am going to call my father and tell him what you just did to me.
Dojima: Indeed. I think Jouichiro will be disappointed with his junior being a dick at here.
Azami: Soma-kun, I think you misunderstood what I just said. I mean 9th seat is not suitable for you. I WANT YOU TO BE 1ST SEAT. Tsukasa, what are you still doing here? Stand up and let Soma have the chair please.
Tsukasa: WAIT WHAT?

P.S. I already like young Kuga over young Rindo and Tsukasa despite that young Kuga only have 1 panel appearance over 2 pages.

[Rokumonsen]

Originally Posted by Nvis

Say Soma wins the 9th seat. Central or other Elites can just kick/vote him out like the others.

He might actually decline the seat for some reason.

[DragonOsman]

He'd be kind of dumb to. I mean, he's been aiming for getting into the Elite 10 since forever. It's kind of a waste to do it during Azami's reign as Headmaster, though, since he'd most likely just get kicked out like others have said (though it'd be funny if Azami got scared of what Jouichirou might stay and allowed Souma to keep his Seat because of that).

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

He'd be kind of dumb to. I mean, he's been aiming for getting into the Elite 10 since forever. It's kind of a waste to do it during Azami's reign as Headmaster, though, since he'd most likely just get kicked out like others have said (though it'd be funny if Azami got scared of what Jouichirou might stay and allowed Souma to keep his Seat because of that).

Trust me. The moment Soma got his 9th seat, Azami will "magically" forgot that he has the authority and can remove Soma from the Elite 10 and will be sitting duck until Kuga, Isshiki, the big guy take back their seat, and following up with Megumi,Hisako and Takumi become another elite member and ta-da Azami got voted out.

and Azami's last word will be "How can they blindsided me?????? PLOT?"

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, hurray for PIS in this case. Azami needs it.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Trust me. The moment Soma got his 9th seat, Azami will "magically" forgot that he has the authority and can remove Soma from the Elite 10 and will be sitting duck until Kuga, Isshiki, the big guy take back their seat, and following up with Megumi,Hisako and Takumi become another elite member and ta-da Azami got voted out.

and Azami's last word will be "How can they blindsided me?????? PLOT?"

I could actually see this happening, but without the "forgetting". His Elite 10 is currently scattered in another part of the country. He himself is back in Tokyo. If they pull this all off without much fanfare while in Hokkaido, Azami might not even have a chance to notice what's happening and act before it's already too late.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by GDB

I could actually see this happening, but without the "forgetting". His Elite 10 is currently scattered in another part of the country. He himself is back in Tokyo. If they pull this all off without much fanfare while in Hokkaido, Azami might not even have a chance to notice what's happening and act before it's already too late.

Make sense. Didn't thought of that. 2nd year promotion exam might become the elite 10 promotion for them.

Before promotion arc:
Azami: My beloved elite dog, Tsukasa, Rindo, Momo, Nene, Eizan and etc. Go to crush rebel for me

After promotion arc:
Azami: My belove- Soma, Megumi, Hisako, Takumi-what are you doing here in this elite room-and OMG, Kuga, Isshiki, you guys are here too? What happened to my dogs?

[DragonOsman]

Can it really happen that easily? Azami can still have Souma voted off even if he does get in. And it's not like Takumi and Megumi can get in just like that. They aren't having Shokugekis with the Seats on the line, that's just Souma. And even then, it's not exactly confirmed yet that Hayama will accept. The other rebels are facing off against Elite 10 members, but they aren't being considered as Shokugekis and they definitely don't have the Seats on the line. Otherwise Kuga wouldn't have had to tell Souma to "make it into" a Shokugeki and wager the 9th Seat.

@GDB: It's not like his dogs in Central can't contact him, is it? Hayama could just contact him and tell him what happened, for example. It's not like he definitely won't realize before it's already too late.

I want Souma to get into the Elite 10 and stay there. Believe me, I do. But it seems to convenient for it to happen here and now.

Also, let's not forget that Souma probably still can't beat Erina in a Shokugeki yet. He doesn't deserve a higher Seat than her unless he can beat her. If she's still 10th Seat, he shouldn't get the 9th Seat position until he can beat her.

[GDB]

Are Cell Phones even a thing in this universe? I think we've only seen them once. It's very possible that students just don't have them most of the time.

Also, Erina obviously got bumped up to 7th Seat when the others got ejected. Otherwise you could make that same argument for Hayama, since he hasn't beaten Erina either.

[Skaddix]

I don't see any reason why Hayama would accept Shougeki. At least if this was Eizan. Maybe Souma could offer up never working in the cooking world again. But Hayama doesn't have any real beef with Souma nor any real interest in seeing him expelled. It doesn't expecially make sense on any level.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Skaddix

I don't see any reason why Hayama would accept Shougeki. At least if this was Eizan. Maybe Souma could offer up never working in the cooking world again. But Hayama doesn't have any real beef with Souma nor any real interest in seeing him expelled. It doesn't expecially make sense on any level.

Hayama is a prideful guy. Now joining Central and went thru Azami's brainwashing, his pride is probably surpassed Vegeta and we all also knew Soma is extremely good in baiting people.

[Log]

Now that I think about it Dojima hasn't interacted with Souma since the time skip. How the hell does he know Souma's level anyway? Seems like meaningless hype for Hayama (like the guy needed anymore hype).

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Also, let's not forget that Souma probably still can't beat Erina in a Shokugeki yet. He doesn't deserve a higher Seat than her unless he can beat her. If she's still 10th Seat, he shouldn't get the 9th Seat position until he can beat her.

Is Eizan better than Erina? Chances are no yet he has a higher seat.

Originally Posted by GDB

Are Cell Phones even a thing in this universe? I think we've only seen them once. It's very possible that students just don't have them most of the time.

Also, Erina obviously got bumped up to 7th Seat when the others got ejected. Otherwise you could make that same argument for Hayama, since he hasn't beaten Erina either.

Souma calls his dad is the most prominent use of cellphone.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Log

Now that I think about it Dojima hasn't interacted with Souma since the time skip. How the hell does he know Souma's level anyway? Seems like meaningless hype for Hayama (like the guy needed anymore hype).

It is a defeat flag.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by Log

Now that I think about it Dojima hasn't interacted with Souma since the time skip. How the hell does he know Souma's level anyway? Seems like meaningless hype for Hayama (like the guy needed anymore hype).

He probably made assumptions base on watching Souma's shokugeki against Eizan.

[DragonOsman]

Well, it's still a defeat flag for Hayama. Hopefully it's not a red-herring and Souma really will win this. We'll see.

@Log: Yeah, that's a good point about Eizan, but the other third- and second-years also don't want to lose their seats, so even if Erina were better than them and challenged them, they'd refuse the challenge. I know that. But if both sides agree to a Shokugeki with an Elite 10 seat on the line, it's unlikely for the one who isn't more skilled than the other to get the seat. There are exceptions to every rule. Right?

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

He probably made assumptions base on watching Souma's shokugeki against Eizan.

Dojima doesn't know that main character will get 2x stronger after got whooped by the "strongest" people, and get 4x stronger after got tutored by another "strong" ally for a week.

In other word, Dojima's scouter will explode once he witnessing Soma start cooking.

[night_sentinel]

Anyway, I was having a conversation in another part of the web regarding E10 betting their seat and it came up that Erina actually is the only one we saw do it from the entirety of the manga. After that, we wondered why Erina who wanted to expel Souma didn't actually shokugeki him or something. If its inconsistency or something, which naturally made me reread the early parts of the manga.

I'll post what I concluded out here.

Besides the entrance exam Erina tried a grand total of zero times to expel Soma.

Erina gloated and never missed a chance to put him down but she didn't actually exert any effort in trying to expel Soma. Rereading stuff, it seems that even the challenge with Nikumi isn't even an attempt to expel Soma, but just a lucky happenstance.

Thinking about this. I wonder if we should look at the behavior differently. While its undeniable that Erina wants Soma to be expelled. It could also be argued that she does not dislike Soma enough to actually want to do it herself. In fact, more than anything else, Erina didn't seem to want to acknowledge Soma's existence and just want him to disappear. Which considering Azami's existence is understandable.

Early on, it can be argued that, Erina couldn't accept Soma's dish because accepting it would be destroying the foundation of her cooking belief (Stupid Azami). But, we do know that Erina actually liked Soma's dish. Thus, Soma is this weird contradiction that shouldn't exist in Erina's previous mindset. Which leads to Erina also paradoxically wanting Soma to disappear (because Soma's philosophy should not possibly exist) but actually not putting an effort (because putting an effort meant Erina wholeheartedly believe that Soma sucks as a cook which is also a lie).

Which is also probably why the author mentioned the Autumn Selection being a turning point of the student body and specially Erina's opinion regarding Soma being important.

[DragonOsman]

I agree completely here. Really, that's Erina's characterization in regards to Soma in a nutshell, basically.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by night_sentinel

Anyway, I was having a conversation in another part of the web regarding E10 betting their seat and it came up that Erina actually is the only one we saw do it from the entirety of the manga. After that, we wondered why Erina who wanted to expel Souma didn't actually shokugeki him or something. If its inconsistency or something, which naturally made me reread the early parts of the manga..

To be fair, Eizan who loathed at Soma's existence didn't shokugeki Soma for explusion either. While Erina didn't actively trying to get Soma expelled, she did try to use her authority to prevent Soma from participating the Autumn Election only to found herself got overruled by other elite members.

Maybe Soma was indeed a scrub in Erina's eye at that time, and she probably have a faith that Tootsuki's exam system will be sufficient to get Soma expelled, and there was no reason for someone with high status such as her needs to dirty her own hand to have shokugeki with a scrub.

...or Plot.