Madan no Ou to Vanadis [Light Novel]

[DragonOsman]

She might be okay with it. Let's just wait and see.

@Ramero: Liza knows the truth now, and Tigre also remembers everything from when he was amnesic.

[Chingaruna517]

@DragonOsman While I also agree that Fine will be contacting with Tigre sooner, I also wondering what would a scenario would it be for Tigre and Fine. 'cause, especially when Fine herself has became an enemy to Elen during Zhcted Civil War, despite she yearned to meet Tigre herself physically during her discussion with Tina and Liza.

Originally Posted by kidstandout

Jesus greasts death scene was graphic...

Spoiler for Greast's demise:

We pretty much established Greast's execution by Denis (Or formerly known as Donny) because of his role in Vernon's rise and House Laspede's corruption, which happened to be prior to Brune Civil War to even begin with. Then again, this is one villain who not only lusted Elen while belittled Tigre , he also screwed other peoples life under Ganelon's desire for chaos. Should we even pay pity for his karma death? Well, we would rather see his death via Tigre's Charged Arrow Shot 'cause that way is more befitting and less gory, as well the best retribution from Tigre and Elen.

Also,

Originally Posted by kidstandout

Spoiler for v13 context:

it's a complexed issue. tigre doesn't just want to keep alsace, but keep it within the vorn name. the only way to do that is if the child is of parentage recognized by brune legally. and since marrying ellen would cause him to forfeit his status in brune, it's unfeasible. the only way it could happen is through unification of brune and zhcted but good luck getting regin to sign off on that. she is after the legal spot like white on rhye. she would have to die for that to work... which isn't outside the realm of possibility given that once she marries tigre her plot armor is pretty much finito

Spoiler for Response to V13 Context:

So, you're saying that Tigre had to relinquish his status as Brune's aristocrat and even Alsace, which has been House Vorn's property may I add, if he yearned to be with Elen? That is quite a big dilemma for our Red-haired hero here.

[DragonOsman]

^

Spoiler for reply to Chingaruna's comment to Kidstandout's post:

He'll have to give that up if he marries Elen, apparently.

[Chingaruna517]

OK guys, here is the announcement we have been waiting for and a small teaser is out for the upcoming volume!

Spoiler for Teaser via Amazon Japan:

大ヒット最強美少女ファンタジー戦記、第16弾!

戦姫同士が火花を散らす――ジスタート内乱、ついに本格化!

Spoiler for Volume 16's Teaser:

Yes folks, you heard it right and it is happening right now. The upcoming 16th volume will showcasing the beginning of Zhcted Civil War and the fighting between the Vanadises in the land. Who will quell the conflict now?

[Ramero]

I hope Tigre will be the one that will quell it..

@Chingaruna:
You do realize that Moonlight Knights can also be used to quell Civil War on Zhcted right? Just like how Tigre establish Silver Meteor Army on Brune to quell Civil War, i hope that the author doesn't decide to disband it like that.

[DragonOsman]

Most likely, Tigre and his army will do it. Though it'll be harder this time since it involves all of the Vanadis.

[Ramero]

Well, you got a point.

Not to mention we will see who will join his army later, so far Olga and Liza has yet to join Moonlight Knights even they are already part of his allies.

[DragonOsman]

Liza is currently with Fine and Tina, though she's apparently just pretending. Olga is more likely, I think.

[kizrock94]

So when will vol 16 come out?

[n0m@n]

Originally Posted by kizrock94

So when will vol 16 come out?

Next month (January 25th). It will be the 2nd to last volume of this series (for now).

[DragonOsman]

Unless it's extended, everything will have to be squeezed in there. Wonder how he'll pull it off?

[n0m@n]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Unless it's extended, everything will have to be squeezed in there. Wonder how he'll pull it off?

That's what happened in his other series
When he said 2 more volumes, it was extended since he couldnt include everything. Not once but 2/3 times.

That's why I'm not taking his words seriously. There is a chance that it will not finish in volume 17 if you consider his past work and words.

[Direwolf18]

Wonder how he will resolve the Vandis conflict? Stern lecture, maybe a reward? Or judicious use of spanking. I know the route I would go.

[Chingaruna517]

@Ramero and DragonOsman
I understand that Tigre's and the Moonlight Knights would be the one to quell the upcoming Zhcted Civil War. Still, keep it in mind that troubles and challenge are still lurking to even Tigre as Ruslan's reign after Viktor's passing changed Zhcted entirely.

Spoiler for Zhcted Civil War's challenges:

• First and foremost is the corrupted reign of Ruslan. Yes, Ruslan, the new King of Zhcted, is ironically oblivious to see the kingdom in ruins by a Vanadis, a woman he indebted so much for his unexpected recovery from his illness, making him as a definition of a "puppet king" to begin with. So, he would unlikely going to force Tina to resign even if he found out the truth of the entire event and until the mystery of the Madan no Ou lore is solved, the king would not likely to abdicating his throne anytime soon.
• Next we have Fine the new Vanadis of Legnica who was responsible to fall of the Silver Gale Mercenary, something Elen took very personal. Now, for those who just learn their backstory not too long ago, during the reunion, Fine was originally try to reconcile with Elen and Lim by trying to "talk" with them-in the misunderstanding way might I add- by mentioning anything about Vissarion's dream. Remember, the only reason why Elen refrained herself is because Tigre is at her side, the one whom Fine yearned to see him after hearing Elen's war in Brune, via Tina. The sudden provocation from Fine makes me wonder if she has a poor choice of words but it ain't matter anymore, 'cause considering the talk is failed Fine resorted to fight until only one survive . Either way, Ruslan's dark reign will set a stage of Leitmeritz-Legnica and it could be our Red-Haired hero chances in trying to rekindle their friendship. Keyword is try, as he only heard one sided story about Fine from Lim and he needed to hear the former mercenary's own words as well. Prepare for the Inferno Arrow, anyone?
• Lets not forget the aristocrats in Zhcted as well. As we recalled from the epilogue of the Baba Yaga Arc, many former House Kazakov's allies and some aristocrats of Northern Zhcted switched their alliances with Tina after the fall of Polus. And that is just a small percentage of the overall numbers of the entire population. In fact, with Eugene's trauma towards the deaths of Ilda and Viktor, it's dangerously indicating that Zhcted nobility is already in a crippled position right now, just like Brune's counterpart in its own civil war.

Originally Posted by n0m@n

Next month (January 25th). It will be the 2nd to last volume of this series (for now).

Well, this is, by the way, the first part of the Zhcted Crisis Arc that seemly put a certain to the entire series because, as far as I recall, it took all five books of Arc One to describe Brune Civil War. Also, there is something the describing Brune Civil War

Spoiler for Answers we need to know:

• The aftermath of Leitmeritz-Legnica Campaign that lead to a reconciliation between Fine and Elen, which seemly to be difficult because of their past personal feud.
• The relevance between the Black Bow and Zhcted that is yet to be known since the epilogue of Archer and Vanadis Arc.
• Ganelon! Just the name of that demon alone makes you wonder what plan he will hatch in order to obtain Tigre and the Black Bow....

Originally Posted by Direwolf18

Wonder how he will resolve the Vandis conflict? Stern lecture, maybe a reward? Or judicious use of spanking. I know the route I would go.

My biggest and logical conclusion of that reward is having all seven Vanadis under Tigre. Then again, the proof of the Black Bow power seemly gurantee Tigre as the new King of Zhcted anyway....

[Ramero]

@Chingaruna

Spoiler for Reply about Zhcted Civil War challenges:

• The battle can be intense than ever and just as i predicted, the damage can be more worse or heavier than Brune Civil War since this is involving multiple factions at once. Those who pledge allegiance to Ruslan and those who pledge allegiance to Tigre through Vanadis that loyal to Tigre. Regin and other Ministers of Brune will also noticed this and there is a high chance that Mashas and Olivier will be dispatched to Zhcted by Regin to aid Tigre since this is more challenging. Now we know that on Brune Civil War Tigre manage to bring Elen and Mila to Brune in order to aid him and this time on Zhcted possibly Mashas and Olivier will be coming to help Tigre under Regin's instruction.
  
• Note that Tigre will be challenged especially for his diplomacy attempt just like how he want to resolve this with less bloodbath than what the Vanadises usually do. Remember how he end the feud between Elen and Mila without further casualties after battle of Vikolin while also he was be able to succed in persuading Tallard using himself as a threat to attack Sachstein if he want to continue battling Tigre which also further avoiding more casualties. This time though is more challenging since Elen has a grudge against Fine and Elen know that Tigre will always offer a diplomatic way to settle this feud while Fine got trust issue. Perhaps in that story we could also see Fine's curiousity on Bargren if her Viralt react to Tigre, wanting to lend power to Tigre but since Fine has a trust issue this is where his diplomatic skills comes to the great challenge and Fine has to choose whether she will trust Tigre or not.
  
• Possibly the history will repeat itself just like how Zhcted was founded but unlike Brune that the nobles are either pledging allegiances on Thenardier, Ganelon or away from both faction. Zhcted will more worse as we don't know how much nobles from Tigre's allies territory such as Leitmeritz, Olmutz, etc that was under Vanadis control that will pledge their allegiances to Ruslan.

I hope that the illustration teaser will come two weeks before publish date, Brune Civil War ends in around Three months after battle of Dinant after Tigre's involvement in many key battle.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, for sure, it'll be more challenging for Tigre to quell the civil war this time. And settling the feud between Elen and Fine will also be really hard. But I'm still at least looking forward to how he'll settle the feud, plus I want to see the Charged Arrow shot he'll fire with Bargren's help.

[Prongs]

Tigre will be king of Zhcted... The old Zhcted king itself actually know who Tigre is.. thus he offered Brune kingdom to Tigre. Only if Tigre accept it Zhcted Civil war wouldn't happen.. Because actually there a bigger scheme that king itself want to happen only to foiled by Tigre rejection.

[KnightShade]

Originally Posted by Prongs

Tigre will be king of Zhcted... The old Zhcted king itself actually know who Tigre is.. thus he offered Brune kingdom to Tigre. Only if Tigre accept it Zhcted Civil war wouldn't happen.. Because actually there a bigger scheme that king itself want to happen only to foiled by Tigre rejection.

see i had a feeling their was more too it then victor seeing him as a threat. it wouldn't make sense for him to be so quick to help him if he truly he didn't want tigre to get zhcted. remember how similiar victors upbringing was to tigre's prior to becoming king? i always felt that was one big hint...

also check out the social club guys, i've found a compromise for those wanting to know more without spoiling setsuna sama should he come here.

[DragonOsman]

Victor wasn't saying he wanted Tigre to become King of Zhcted. He was telling him to become King of Brune, and the main reason was that he was afraid Tigre would take the Zhcted throne from him.

[KnightShade]

We know that. We're speculating that it might not be the case.