Steampunk (What a Beautiful) series (Celernaria/ Inganock/ Sharnoth/ Valusia etc.)

[trexalfa]

Is it normal to be thoroughly confused after finishing Inganock? ^^

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by trexalfa

Is it normal to be thoroughly confused after finishing Inganock? ^^

In a way, yes.
It is the most open ended work in the series.
Some explanation even came only in the Liar SOft Member only magazine.
I am still waiting that all the member only magazine episodes can be made into VNs.

[Cosmic Eagle]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26570251

Anyone knows where the last pic of Tick Tack Man is from?

[trexalfa]

Now that I've finished the Web Novel and minimized my share of doubts, these are the things remaining for me. Keep in mind I still haven't played the Full Voiced Fandisk, so I don't know if this stuff is solved there.

Spoiler for Inganock Stuff:

1.- First of all, what was Grimm-Grimm? Aside from vague hints relating it to Brothers Grimm, all I've got was that it was the ultimate result of the Cracking Effect experiment and the ultimate cause of everything: the Rebirth, the Infinite Mist, the Kikai, the Critters and the Stolen Ones. The VN also refers to Astea as its creator, though I've read stuff on the Internet that links it to Edison and the Emerald Tablet. Its motives and defeat are... vague, to say the least.

2.- What did the release of the Kikai mean for Inganock's release? Randolph constantly mentions it. Furthermore, did others aside from Porshion, like Xerxes/Thoth or Lemure, reincarnate?

3.- Any material detailing what happened to Gii and Kia?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26570251

Anyone knows where the last pic of Tick Tack Man is from?

Fan disc.

Originally Posted by trexalfa

Now that I've finished the Web Novel and minimized my share of doubts, these are the things remaining for me. Keep in mind I still haven't played the Full Voiced Fandisk, so I don't know if this stuff is solved there.

Spoiler for Inganock Stuff:

1.- First of all, what was Grimm-Grimm? Aside from vague hints relating it to Brothers Grimm, all I've got was that it was the ultimate result of the Cracking Effect experiment and the ultimate cause of everything: the Rebirth, the Infinite Mist, the Kikai, the Critters and the Stolen Ones. The VN also refers to Astea as its creator, though I've read stuff on the Internet that links it to Edison and the Emerald Tablet. Its motives and defeat are... vague, to say the least.

2.- What did the release of the Kikai mean for Inganock's release? Randolph constantly mentions it. Furthermore, did others aside from Porshion, like Xerxes/Thoth or Lemure, reincarnate?

3.- Any material detailing what happened to Gii and Kia?

Spoiler:

1. Abomination created by Edison. Yes, Edison, as usual, is the root of evil. Arch Duke may have started the experiment, but it is Edison who pulled it out of control.

2. Porción is the only one that has reincarnated. Inganock is released because someone has attained to the peak of the Golden Spiral Stairway. That leads to the Arch Duke's wish to be granted, and thus the Inganock is released.

3. Ati set off to travel the world, hoping that she may encounter Guy somewhere. As for Guy himself, Sakurai has no intention to give a clear answer. Though, Guy's real name might be Gerogious.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by trexalfa

Now that I've finished the Web Novel and minimized my share of doubts, these are the things remaining for me. Keep in mind I still haven't played the Full Voiced Fandisk, so I don't know if this stuff is solved there.

Spoiler for Inganock Stuff:

1.- First of all, what was Grimm-Grimm? Aside from vague hints relating it to Brothers Grimm, all I've got was that it was the ultimate result of the Cracking Effect experiment and the ultimate cause of everything: the Rebirth, the Infinite Mist, the Kikai, the Critters and the Stolen Ones. The VN also refers to Astea as its creator, though I've read stuff on the Internet that links it to Edison and the Emerald Tablet. Its motives and defeat are... vague, to say the least.

2.- What did the release of the Kikai mean for Inganock's release? Randolph constantly mentions it. Furthermore, did others aside from Porshion, like Xerxes/Thoth or Lemure, reincarnate?

3.- Any material detailing what happened to Gii and Kia?

Grimm is created by Tick Tack Man. The Cracking Effects throughout the series all stem from him. Likewise, the Astaire Theory also came from Tick Tack Man since he was the one who implanted that idea in Astaire's mind.

http://www.liar.co.jp/ing_webnovel.html -----> Inganock after stories

Fan disc

Which story?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Which story?

The one where Edison butts into Allen's room as if it is his own room.

[trexalfa]

Something popped in my mind just now. What's the canon stance on stuff like, say, Celephais?

[shmaster]

Proper cannon.

[404NotFriend]

Celephais was originally a fanfic of some sort that has the Golden King as protagonist no ? or it's something different ? If it's the former, when did Sakurai canonize it ?

[shmaster]

It is a novel on Sakurai's blog.
It is an alternate world where Golden King became good and Leonardo became evil.

Also, Golden King is not the protagonist there, it is Machina.

[404NotFriend]

Who the hell is Machina lel ? I feel like missing many stuff. So Leo wasn't evil in the original world then ? Wasn't he the baddies in Valusia ?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by 404NotFriend

Who the hell is Machina lel ? I feel like missing many stuff. So Leo wasn't evil in the original world then ? Wasn't he the baddies in Valusia ?

The baddies in Valusia are Hilde and Charles.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by 404NotFriend

Who the hell is Machina lel ? I feel like missing many stuff. So Leo wasn't evil in the original world then ? Wasn't he the baddies in Valusia ?

Machina is a machine life form created by the WIC based on Moran. And no, Leo is one of the major protagonists in the whole series actually. He contributed a lot to resolving Valusia's plotline

[404NotFriend]

Huh, i thought hes a bad guy there. He looks like a bad dude to me for some reason

[404NotFriend]

Sry for double post

What are Charles and Hilde motives as villains ? I heard Charles' has something to do with Napoleon's death. Dunno anything about Hilde though, does it have something to do with her execution when she was still known as Jeanne d'Arc ?

[shmaster]

They work for WIC, simple.

Charles joined WIC after he went mad due to Napoleon's death.
Hilde joined WIC because Tooth saved her.

[trexalfa]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, Sekime come from Tick Tack Man right? Then why do some characters like Kia have them?

[shmaster]

The red eye? That is the sign of a person has been modified by the cracking effect. And all cracking effect came from Tick Tock Man.

[404NotFriend]

Is there any new info about Thoth? Or maybe info on him from old supplementary materials that people might have missed? I only know that hes a friend to Astea (or however you spell his name as) and is currently missing. What are the chance that he'll appear in new Steampunk VNs?