Batman & The Justice League [Manga]

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Spoiler for Vol 1 and page cover:

Name : Batman & The Justice League / バットマンアンドジャスティスリーグ
Story & Art : Teshirogi Shiori (Saint Seiya - The Last Canvas)
Status : 6 chapters and ongoing, Vol 1 out in Japan.

Spoiler for Synopsis:

Aramiya Rui has travelled to Gotham City in search of his parents, reported missing after an explosion destroyed the power plant they were working at. His search will not only bring him into the orbit of JL greats such as Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, but into those of villains such as the Joker and Lex Luthor, who see him as key to their plan for controlling the spiritual energies of the Ley Lines...

Spoiler for Additional info:

-Ley lines are veins of spirit energy crisscrossing the globe, said to converge at the site of great beings and superhumans. Its greatest convergence currently lies beneath Gotham.
-Lex Luthor intends to harness that power for his world-changing ambitions, the Joker joining for the fun of it. Other villians introduced so far include Ocean Master and mysterious masked swordsman Akura-ou.
-Rui has ninja skills, and plenty of ninja weapons - utility belt with throwing stars and kunai blades, tanto shortswords, grappling hook rope etc. Still a novice though.

There's an official French translation of Vol 1.

Official English translation releases this 23rd October 2018, in a 200 page tankoubon.

[wuhugm]

Marvel > DC

[AB079]

DC is desperate.

[Fairy Water]

More like Japanese likes DC better.

[DragonOsman]

I like both, though. They both have their good points. And I've liked Batman since I was a kid, so yeah.

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Marvel > DC

If you mean the live action movies, then yes.

I think this is largely the fault of director Zack Snyder, who has Serious, Grimdark vision for his interpretation of DC heroes. Many reviewers complain about his dark, joyless vision for them, compared to Marvel's directors who put humour, fun and character into their movies.

Except Wonder Woman, which he didn't direct. That was more enjoyable.

[wuhugm]

^Cinematic Universe yes
Animated DC still better

Justice League tried to put comedy in, just cringe
Since Dark Knight Rises, DC is crap. I mean, that bankrupt plot is just dumb.

Wonder Woman is Amazing btw!~

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Cinematic Universe yes
Animated DC still better

Justice League tried to put comedy in, just cringe
Since Dark Knight Rises, DC is crap. I mean, that bankrupt plot is just dumb.

Wonder Woman is Amazing btw!~

IIRC Comedy parts were inserted in later by the new director, Joss Whedon.
Snyder stopped halfway through because his daughter committed suicide. He is now on hiatus.

TV DC is not bad also. I've seen Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow.

BTW what do you think of this Justice League manga? I can provide Japanese and Chinese links.

[Seafoam]

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

More like Japanese likes DC better.

Well yeah. Batman and Superman are two of the three most popular superheroes of all time. Marvel's presence is bigger in China than Japan, IIRC.

[BPD Renegade]

Batman ninjas, and now Batman manga? What the hell, Japan? I love the bat-fam and all, but y'all realize there are other western comics out there? Not just the Avengers and Justice League and whatever's in theaters? Still, other than milking for cash, I don't quite see the point in making a manga for comics like this, considering we already have them in *full-color* print form.

Spoiler for like so:

(Man, Pru's nose breaking never gets old. )

So why not just release the comics that already exist here over in Japan if they aren't doing so already?

Anyway, if they're going to do this, it would be nice if they would at least choose a more obscure character/team to make a spin-off for. (It doesn't even have to be from Marvel or DC -- shocking!) We know why they won't, but still.

And laughing at the Marvel > DC comments. It feels like the only people who insist on that are those who only came around during the MCU era and never read the actual comics or watched the cartoons. (Nothing wrong with that, but when they act like little trolls... ) Still don't get why people can't just acknowledge that both companies have their good points and let live.

[Diluc]

Another DC Cinemated Universe problem is they were too obsessed on expanded the popular brands Superman and Batman film for long time, which don't give chance for other heroes to have share position like formers as well.
This is why Justice league is so lacking in background than Avenger which has been established by prequels of individuals movie. I know there are TV series introduced Flash and Arrow but that not really expanding their fame much to worldwide.

[BPD Renegade]

^ DC's "extended universe," or whatever it's called, screwed itself when it decided to focus too much on playing catch-up with what Marvel spent years establishing instead of telling its own story on its own terms.

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Btw, Suicide Squad is the most garbage movie I've ever watched in forever

So cringe oh my god.... By the end these villains saying shit like, "Don't hurt my friends!", CRINGE!

Also, why are these super teams always facing off against most boring faceless unlimited army?
That's so boring

Avengers' aliens and robots were boring too but at least they got Loki and funny Ultron

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Btw, Suicide Squad is the most garbage movie I've ever watched in forever

So cringe oh my god.... By the end these villains saying shit like, "Don't hurt my friends!", CRINGE!

Also, why are these super teams always facing off against most boring faceless unlimited army?
That's so boring

Avengers' aliens and robots were boring too but at least they got Loki and funny Ultron

All the fangirls were so crazy over Loki...
And Ultron is acted by James Spader aka Reddington from The Blacklist, of course he'll be great.

Originally Posted by BPD Renegade

Batman ninjas, and now Batman manga? What the hell, Japan?...Still, other than milking for cash, I don't quite see the point in making a manga for comics like this, considering we already have them in *full-color* print form.

IMO, its always interesting to see a Japanese mangaka's own take on designing and writing established Western comicbook characters. She's already thrown in the concept of mystical leylines and a novice-level-ninja trained MC, already some interesting stuff if executed correctly.

Imagine the possibilities - from Yabuki Kentaro's take on Catwoman, to Arakawa Hiromu's version of Wonder Woman.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by zztop

If you mean the live action movies, then yes.

I think this is largely the fault of director Zack Snyder, who has Serious, Grimdark vision for his interpretation of DC heroes. Many reviewers complain about his dark, joyless vision for them, compared to Marvel's directors who put humour, fun and character into their movies.

Except Wonder Woman, which he didn't direct. That was more enjoyable.

Oh really? Bet you didn't see how Whedon ruined JL by turning it into a comedy.

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I like Batman v Superman

Dunno why people hate it

They were on the right track by contrasting Marvel

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

I like Batman v Superman

Dunno why people hate it

They were on the right track by contrasting Marvel

Exactly.

When I want to see light-hearted superhero movies, MCU for me.
When I want to see dark, depressing, serious superhero movies, DCEU for me.

But now, it was all gone. DCEU has became another MCU 2.0.

When I am watching the JL opening credit scene, the dark tone and the "everybody knows" theme was playing got me hooked for me and then it was quickly became a disappointment when everyone in the movie starting to crack a joke to the end.

Damn Whedon.

P.S. Also, there was a time my friend, MCU big fan asking me why would the courtroom exploded and who has setup it when watching BvS with me. I was like "I thought it was obvious a setup by Lex?" and his response was " How you know? Lex didn't said it and the scene didn't show Lex triggering the bomb or setup the bomb. MCU would have shown these important scenes to the audiences". I was like "Oh ok. My bad".

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Originally Posted by Sixth

Exactly.

When I want to see light-hearted superhero movies, MCU for me.
When I want to see dark, depressing, serious superhero movies, DCEU for me.

But now, it was all gone. DCEU has became another MCU 2.0.

When I am watching the JL opening credit scene, the dark tone and the "everybody knows" theme playing got me hooked for me and then it was quickly became a disappointment when everyone in the movie starting to crack a joke to the end.

Damn Whedon.

P.S. Also, there was a time my friend, MCU big fan asking me why would the courtroom exploded and who has setup it when watching BvS with me. I was like "I thought it was obvious a setup by Lex?" and his response was " How you know? Lex didn't said it and the scene didn't show Lex triggering the bomb or setup the bomb. MCU would have shown these important scenes to the audiences". I was like "Oh ok. My bad".

If I wanted to watch emo brooding superhero, I wouldn't pick a movie with the name "Superman" in it. Superman was never meant to be emo and angsty that's Batman's schtick. I want my Superman to be optimistic and full of unbreakable sunshine that hits bad guys like a steel brick to the face literally.

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^Isn't that the very problem that plagued Superman since a long time ago?

Superman is boring

He's all mighty so his defeats were because stupid things like kryptonite

Man of Steel was great coz the enemies were on equal level and he was forced to become crueler to counter them

Modern day Superman should be like this, because Saitama approach won't work for him

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Originally Posted by Sixth

Oh really? Bet you didn't see how Whedon ruined JL by turning it into a comedy.

I actually haven't seen Justice League yet.
I did hear from the news how Whedon tried injecting his trademark humour into JL after he was chosen to replace Snyder who was going on hiatus.

*****

Perhaps we should go back to discussing the actual Teshirogi manga itself, in case the mods start cracking down on this post for going too off-topic.

(But we can continue discussing in the JL movie thread, I think.
https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=112823 )