(L+CR) Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime)

[eiyuuou]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

That only works if said Otaku is obsessed with that particular scene in DQ. Not if it's only one of hundreds or thousands of comparisons he makes.

Spoiler:

it's a recurring quote since dq1
slime is actually DQ's mascot

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by eiyuuou

Spoiler:

it's a recurring quote since dq1
slime is actually DQ's mascot

Yeah, so? Shizu was last on Earth in the 40s. That hypothetical otaku would have to explain what video games are, and then would have to explain that in one of them (or a series of them), there is a line that isn't particularly funny in any other context, and it would have to stick in her memory enough that she'd instantly recognize it when Rimuru says it.

What would it take for Shizu, who's only heard about it, and hasn't been bombarded by pop culture references the way we are, to internalize it like that?

[RDNexus]

Why don't you ask a LN Reader to PM you the potential answer to that?
Not only would you get your answer straight away, you'd also spare yourself from being spoiled about other things.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by xrick

Why don't you ask a LN Reader to PM you the potential answer to that?
Not only would you get your answer straight away, you'd also spare yourself from being spoiled about other things.

Because I don't actually care, and if there's an actual explanation, I don't want to be spoiled about it.

[kari-no-sugata II]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

That only works if said Otaku is obsessed with that particular scene in DQ. Not if it's only one of hundreds or thousands of comparisons he makes.

Think of this line as equivalent to quoting a famous line from Star Wars if you were put in a sci-fi setting. It's something that would naturally happen in the right circumstances - I presume the person quoting from DQ was an avid gamer and it happened when discussing slimes for some reason. After all, slimes seem to be a well known enough "monster" in this world, so discussion of them is quite reasonable.

[Ultragunner]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Yeah, so? Shizu was last on Earth in the 40s. That hypothetical otaku would have to explain what video games are, and then would have to explain that in one of them (or a series of them), there is a line that isn't particularly funny in any other context, and it would have to stick in her memory enough that she'd instantly recognize it when Rimuru says it.

What would it take for Shizu, who's only heard about it, and hasn't been bombarded by pop culture references the way we are, to internalize it like that?

Why not? If Shizu had spent some substantial time with that said person, then she would remember it.

And for the record, the idea of a slime talking is quite surreal itself, so it would stick in my mind quite a bit.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Because I don't actually care, and if there's an actual explanation, I don't want to be spoiled about it.

Then stop acting like you're obsessed over it. We've given you perfectly valid explanations. If you keep pushing you're going to irritate someone who knows the answer enough that they're going to spoil you about it.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata II

Think of this line as equivalent to quoting a famous line from Star Wars if you were put in a sci-fi setting.

That's exactly how I think about it, and what makes me dubious about the whole thing. Haven't you ever come across some kind of pop culture reference and not gotten it because you hadn't seen the source? And not particularly cared about it? And then forgotten about it because why wouldn't you?

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Why not? If Shizu had spent some substantial time with that said person, then she would remember it.

And for the record, the idea of a slime talking is quite surreal itself, so it would stick in my mind quite a bit.

Yes and no. At the time she'd have heard about the line, she'd never have heard of an actual talking slime. So the line itself wouldn't be very important. And if we're just talking about talking critters in some fiction, then I'm sure she'd have come across the concept even on Earth. In fairy tales or whatever.

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Then stop acting like you're obsessed over it. We've given you perfectly valid explanations. If you keep pushing you're going to irritate someone who knows the answer enough that they're going to spoil you about it.

I don't find "she met someone who talked her ear off about DQ" to be a valid explanation. Besides, how valid can they be if there's something to be spoiled about?

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

That's exactly how I think about it, and what makes me dubious about the whole thing. Haven't you ever come across some kind of pop culture reference and not gotten it because you hadn't seen the source? And not particularly cared about it? And then forgotten about it because why wouldn't you?

And never forgotten it because it's information given to you by someone from your home, which you'll never see again.

I don't find "she met someone who talked her ear off about DQ" to be a valid explanation. Besides, how valid can they be if there's something to be spoiled about?

Congratulations on your failure to believe it. I can fail to believe in gravity, but that won't stop it from being real either. And I repeat: if you DON'T CARE, stop pushing about it.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

And never forgotten it because it's information given to you by someone from your home, which you'll never see again.



Congratulations on your failure to believe it. I can fail to believe in gravity,

Fictional character behavior, well documented RL physical phenomenon. Yeah, totally comparable.

but that won't stop it from being real either. And I repeat: if you DON'T CARE, stop pushing about it.

Why don't you stop? I explained why I didn't find the explanation convincing because someone was curious about the topic. Period. I don't insist you or anyone believe as I do, I'm not saying the story is ruined because of that detail, I don't actually ask for a good explanation. So really, what's it to you?

[Estzero1]

As far as I know, this reference doesn't exist in the LN or better, it's not stated as such. So this is more or less Anime only content The real question now should be if Shizu has met someone ( and who was it) who got in this world after the year 1986. Otherwise this person couldn't even know Dragon Quest and therefore this reference in particular.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Estzero1

As far as I know, this reference doesn't exist in the LN or better, it's not stated as such. So this is more or less Anime only content The real question now should be if Shizu has met someone ( and who was it) who got in this world after the year 1986. Otherwise this person couldn't even know Dragon Quest and therefore this reference in particular.

The person who told her about it came from modern times, similar to Rimuru himself.

The DQ line is a meme that in Japanese pop culture has similar spread to "I am your Father!"

[Ultragunner]

Originally Posted by Estzero1

As far as I know, this reference doesn't exist in the LN or better, it's not stated as such. So this is more or less Anime only content The real question now should be if Shizu has met someone ( and who was it) who got in this world after the year 1986. Otherwise this person couldn't even know Dragon Quest and therefore this reference in particular.

Actually the line does exist in the LN, though not explicitly stated as a DQ's reference

Spoiler for LN context:

someone told Shizu that

“Though, of course, you can do anything you want in a game. You can have monsters that say, ‘I’m not a bad slime, you know’…or even have them join your party!”

[Chosen_Hero]

Maybe she just laughed not because she knew the funny context behind the line, but because the moment Rimuru used it she understood he was from her world just like the person who told her about the game.

[GreyZone]

The part about the Dragon Quest didn't exist in the Web Novel. It was actually added in the Light Novel.

There are two reasons for why she remembers such a trivial (to her) quote:

1. In the LN it's explained that the quote completely weirded her out because the context of the quote, i.e. the very idea of a monster joining a party out of its own violition seemed completely ridiculous to her and she viewed it as complete non-sense that couldn't possibly happen in that world, but this might have at least engraved that quote in her memory for it's bizarness to her. Needless to say, when she actually witnessed Rimuru saying the quote it was like something unbelievable happened and she remembered how strongly she argued against the idea of monsters helping humans in the past, when she had only just witnessed it (in the LN version the Hobgoblins save the 4 humans instead of Rimuru). So it might be more that she chuckled at the bizarness of the situation or at herself for stubbornly having believed something like that to be impossible.

2. A spoilery reason that's too spoilery to specify here even in spoiler tags. Let's just say that for this reason alone her remembering about this quote makes complete sense.

[mickbis]

This episode is much better than both Manga and Light Novel
I believe Efreet summoning minions is new here, while Shizu past is formally Light Novel exclusive

the conclusion of volume 1 has been move to Episode 8 now
it obvious at this point that they gonna pull season 2 announcement by the end of Anime
dealing with the most hype part of novel that should not be able to cover within 24 episode

[GreyZone]

Seems this episode had Shizu's backstory from the LN in it, which was skipped or skimmed over in both WN and manga versions. I didn't see the episode myself yet, but I saw a screenshot from the episode with that little fox and that one girl in it, which AFAIK had been completely exclusive to the LN version up until now.

Originally Posted by mickbis

This episode is much better than both Manga and Light Novel
I believe Efreet summoning minion is new here, while Shizu past is formally Light Novel exclusive

the conclusion of volume 1 has been move to Episode 8 now
it obvious at this point that they gonna pull season 2 announcement by the end of Anime
dealing with the most hype part of novel that should not be able to cover within 24 episode

Yea, but it might take some time. There are rumors about the anime not being allowed to go past the manga version to prevent any losses in sales, as appearently the manga-side corporations are financing the anime more than the LN-side corporations do. So supposing that at the current pace the anime is going to get up until LN vol. 3, we would have to wait until the manga is about to finish with the arc of LN vol. 6, which is still... 2 or so years away at least? Only then would we see a season 2. Or maybe I am wrong, I don't know, but I don't think we'll get a season 2 before 2020 AT LEAST.

[mickbis]

I think ending at Vol 3 seem to be bad decision as it main point is only the introduction of certain demon lord
and honestly while the Vol 3 boss is scary strong the tension isn't that high compare to Volume 1 2 and 4
OP already show content for Vol 4 so IMO it should be safe to assume that they will not push Vol 4 to 2nd season

[Stark700]

Damn it, Shizu didn't deserve her tragic childhood like that.

I'm still quite impressed by Rimuru's abilities. At one point in the episode, it gave an impression that Ifrit would be able to kill everyone present until our slime kun made its counterattack. Quite frankly, I think the episode felt emotional enough. Tsundere dragon is back too!

Anyone else think the music in the show also improved? Felt like it made the latest episode more impactful.

[Rnzlr]

That escalated quickly, poor child