2018-12-13, 18:18 | Link #901 |
I disagree with you all.
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At this point, I wouldn't even be surprised if May decides to rescind UK's withdrawal and retrigger Article 50 so we can continue to make a mockery of everything for two more years. In case some people are somehow not unhappy enough.
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2018-12-14, 00:33 | Link #902 |
Sensei, aishite imasu
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At least as far as I can understand it as an outsider, the main problem is that the UK wants a brexit agreement that gives the most of the trade benefits of being a member in the EU, while not having any of the responsibilities that comes with it. And that the EU is making the extraordinary move of negotiating in their own interests and not capitulating wholesale during negotiations?
Honestly this sounds like the Brits are trying to haggle with a vending machine when they have neither coin or crowbar.
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2018-12-14, 14:30 | Link #903 |
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And May walks home empty-handed as expected. Rumors said that during the hearing she said "Brexit means Brexit" as an answer to the other 27 EU-heads. XD
I wonder how long Labour waits till they trigger a no confidence in the parliament.
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2018-12-14, 18:42 | Link #906 |
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This! It's impressive how screwed up British politics are at the moment. Corbyn is an absolute disgrace. He's inability to capitalize on the Tories situation due to the fact that he himself is for brexit unlike most of the typical Labour base is what's effectively dooming the situation even further.
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2018-12-14, 19:01 | Link #907 | |
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2018-12-17, 14:16 | Link #908 |
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You know, May saying that if her deal gets voted down she will do a no deal then afterwards... doesn't that give the Hard Brexiteers a perfect reason to vote down her bad deal to get the no deal they dream off? In other words she is just trying to scare enough Labour MPs for voting for her deal in fear of an accidentally Hard Brexit. That's pretty stupid of her.
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2019-01-15, 14:43 | Link #914 |
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Theresa May’s plan has been rejected by votes to 432 votes to 202 - a majority of 230. Holy shit! That is the biggest defeat a UK Premier EVER had! Holy crap that is even more than the newspapers predicted! The highest of theirs was 216!
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2019-01-15, 14:49 | Link #916 | |
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The UK government is in this weird position where the government will not change leadership, but will vote against everything the leadership brings forth Maximum fuckery There is no time for a general election either. The UK is going to crash out at this rate in 2 months. Jesus. This was a dumb idea 2 years ago, and it continues to be a dumb idea today.
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2019-01-15, 14:52 | Link #917 |
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I have no idea how the UK thinks it can renegotiate the deal into something better in less than 2 months. And the Eu cannot have an interest into delaying the exit because of the EU elections plus delays means UK has to pay MORE money which they don't want to do. They don't even want to pay the 39bn Pounds they are supposed to pay for the past years and the projects they agreed to pay for.
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2019-01-15, 14:56 | Link #918 |
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There will be no renegotiation, because even if the EU for whatever reason extends the exit date, nothing will change. The last 2 years had shown clearly the UK has no idea what it wants out of this farce, and no more time given will change that.
We will be getting No Deal or No Brexit at this rate, and given the level of stupidity at display, No Deal seems to be the more probable option. Brexit is a stupid idea.
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2019-01-15, 15:07 | Link #919 |
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The UK should just do a hard clean Brexit and EU should accept it for it does starting to look better than... this mess. They don't even know what they want! How are you supposed to do a deal with such a nation?
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