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2020-11-04, 01:45 | Link #41 | |
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Oh look, Hamazura conveniently has a Deus ex Machina to replace Aneri, his other Deus ex Machina that he can't use at the moment.
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There's also the fact that to work for the dark side you not only have to know about all of the heinous disgusting shit going on and that are being done by the people you work for and help, but also you have to actively ignore it and let it happen. How the hell am I supposed to believe the bs he is spewing when the dark side is the most horrible thing outside of actual literal monsters? This is like someone coming up to me and saying: "But no really, not all terrorists are that bad tho, some of the are super nice and totally essential to society, you need to talk to them and get to know them better." It doesn't matter how much of a sweet person they are, it doesn't change the fact that THEY ARE F****** TERRORISTS. But hey, Kamachi needs to find a way to make his golden boy look like the good guy and to come out on top in the end, so I guess he doesn't mind retconning and/or ignoring a few things from the characters past. Calling it now, Hamazura get off scott free while teaching everyone that not all of the terrorists are bad guys after all. As for who is behind the Anti Skill brutality, there's three options that come to my mind: 1. D.A. 2. The higher ups of the Dark Side 3. Anna 4. All of the above working together to undermine Accelerators plans. Remember, Accelerator wanted to do things right and by the law, that's why he turned himself in instead of going after the Dark Side himself and just singlehandedly annihilating them. Also Anna literally told him that she was going to mess it all up for him, so... Yeah.
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2020-11-04, 14:32 | Link #43 | |||
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Recall that many people in the dark side were forcibly recruited by the city's leadership. Even Hamazura got involved with the plot to kill Mikoto's mom because city leadership threatened to kill him and the rest of his Skill Out group.
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Hamazura never tried to justify anyone's crimes but the reality is that not everyone is the same. I wouldn't compare Gensei with some underling who just drives cars. Quote:
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2020-11-04, 17:42 | Link #44 |
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Not all of them were. I acknowledge that some of them were, if fact I've gone on length about how the exploitation of a lot of the younger people is one of the darker themes I'm fond of in a blog post I did recently, but that gives even less of a reason for Hamazura to be espousing the Dark Side was necessary for them.
There's a difference between having a place to belong and that place being the cesspit where he had to dispose of bodies of victims who will continue to be missing or have been erased while their loved ones remain clueless. That isn't Skill Out territory (which isn't technically a part of the Dark Side) and that's not even the darkest depths we're talking about here. Accelerator's goal is to bring all of this to light so that they get their shot of getting out of the cesspit. That's why I'm all for them getting taken in by Anti-Skill so they can give their testimonies and the ones who were pressed at gunpoint can at least get a shot at amnesty. They were victims too. The fact that they're being killed is the problem because if even those who were forcibly recruited are killed then the ones at the top are not only going to get away but that's more needless lives lost. But you can't deny that a lot of them took great pleasure in killing and didn't really feel remorse or pressure for it, even in the first volume that High-End Level 4 was gungho on offing people and outright asked why they couldn't just kill Last Order. When Accelerator acknowledged his fall into villainy and doesn't give himself a free pass even when he's sitting at the top now, he set the standard for what needs to be done. Which is part of what makes me mad that this is happening, someone is actively undermining his efforts to make AC a better place.
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2020-11-04, 19:38 | Link #45 | ||
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Once you step foot in the dark side, they can blackmail you into doing anything for life. Take Hamazura himself, why do you think he became ITEM's errand boy? Once he dirtied his hands with attempted murder, he had to join the dark side, otherwise he'd get sent off to jail. You can say he should have just let himself get caught, and even he might agree, but you can understand why he didn't choose that option. Quote:
It's early days yet and I have more faith in Accel than that, but I can't help but note that I'm not seeing any higher ups getting arrested yet either
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2020-11-04, 20:10 | Link #46 | ||
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This really feels like Anna messing with him given those coins popping out of nowhere came from her company.
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2020-11-04, 21:44 | Link #47 | ||
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And regarding whether or not the deaths would be written off, I honestly think they might be. They have public momentum on their side with all the revelations coming out and the weird tech the dark side uses would give them a great excuse for how dangerous apprehension is.
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2020-11-04, 22:41 | Link #48 | ||
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2020-11-15, 04:11 | Link #56 |
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She tosses the coins around, and everything goes straight to hell.
Yeah, the Dark Side got cleaned up, but in a way not remotely close to the way Accelerator wanted. It is so one-sided that Accel couldn't find a single ward to talk back while Anna completely trash talks over him. 「There's not a single ward.」 「Though one fact has been proven. As long as that women exists, not even a tiny dream can come true.」 「Forever.」 But I am pretty sure Chosen Hero is going to like what happens to Hamzura this volume. Oh, and Aiwass has a third form. |
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2020-11-15, 17:05 | Link #60 |
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I am saying this having only read early parts of this novel. A random popped into my head seeing the Coins of Nicholas. The mana to charge them has to come from somewhere. Wouldn't it be messed up if the mana was coming from all the espers that have been rushed to the emergency room of the hospitals.
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