Syosetsuka ni Narou Discussion Thread

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by cabman11

Anyway, I've been reading too much Chinese shit. I need recommendations to get back to my roots

which do you want, I have my own list to get back to Japanese novels after reading too much cultivation, really make you appreciate characterization and world building.

[Sekiryuu12]

Well, let me serve myself first XD. Do you have something where the MC isn't a little bitch and works hard to acquire his power or love interest?

Better if he doesn't have any OP power, just something average that he raises to the extreme and make it OP.

[Garn]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

^I don't trust authors who do that shit. In my experience, like 99% of the authors who decide to remake their own novel or apply massive amendments will just lose interest and stop — or in certain cases take literal years to catch back up. Even when they do continue there's often such little difference it makes me wonder why they bothered. The lack of foresight in the initial writing that made them decide to rewrite to begin with isn't very welcoming, either.

Only like valid reason I can think of is the novel got deleted by the admins and, having no backups, had to rewrite it all, like with Nekama Couple.
Still a massive deterrent for me. Even the only comment for it says the protagonist is boringly much nicer than he was previously. Does he at least mix heroines or classmates together permanently? Some fusion-ha shit? That sounds fun. Please tell me he does.

At least for now the author updates several chapters so far every 12 hours
The MC can mixes only the monsters he tames, previously he could transform others and I think he planned to do it but he had some obstacles
The MC is acquiring greater control over the blood and the skills commonly used with the blood, similar to ice maker + water control
The change that the author has made is up to what I remember

Spoiler for :

-There are more mysteries, locations and more danger
-Nerfed MC, previously the MC had fewer or no limitations with some skills and when mixing and capturing monsters
-The MC was asocial and distrusted everyone from the beginning and took a defiant and arrogant attitude towards the class group, he separated from the group quickly, now he is helping them longer and it's not so dominant anymore (for now)
-The MC is hetare, although also before it seems that it is more highlighted, so this is a problem that there is a version not r18

The author updates several chapters so far every 12 hours

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by Sekiryuu12

Well, let me serve myself first XD. Do you have something where the MC isn't a little bitch and works hard to acquire his power or love interest?

Better if he doesn't have any OP power, just something average that he raises to the extreme and make it OP.

Quite a bit really, generally you have better chance at these type on modern day, sci fi psychic based theme. Here are those that are a little unknown despite already have a thread in this forum. you can check those thread to see if they match your standard
Allot roll gain recommended by Eroshrimp is a good example. MC power is actually really specific, and by no mean compare to his peers.
Rebuild world is also pretty good. Sci-fi theme, but MC personality and story theme is quite dark, and in a way, Akira does have a cheat in the form of an AI, though it's clear that the AI has her own agenda and is only trying to use him for her own end, and he effectively have to train himself based on the AI schedule. Her main usage is teaching how to fight effectively and assist him in shot correction.
There is also the talker one. MC is genuine not powerful, but I don't get really far in this one since I don't like MC personality a lot, but from the other's view, it seem like a good story.
There is also Ningen Fushin, but consider that's it relatively famous recently, I'm assuming you are already reading it. though it has quite a low chapter count though.

There is isekai who have no cheats as well, but generally for these kingdom building type of story, knowledge themselves are a type of cheat, so I hesitated in recommending them. If you want those who didn't have a thread in the forum I can recommend you as well, but aware that those don't have translation yet.

[Sekiryuu12]

Sankyuu!

[wuhugm]

I hate this development so much

[Rasty]

^ There are rare cases where it makes some sense, but in most, the more reasonable way (if you are OP enough, otherwise just go become a member) is to either find the guild which has the best high management, negotiate with them for good treatment (possibly part of power) and go for it, or go to the other extreme and create your own guild. Something in-between is firstly boring and secondly just not worth it.

[dragon1412]

^^ Depend for me, but sometimes it does make sense, but rarely does it work as intended, For example, if you want to be free, then screw the affiliated thing, since being affiliated mean less freedom to choose which jobs which is the selling points of being free mercenary, as in freely choose winning side, while in most of the case it turn out like Rasty case for better treatment/

For case that make sense, the whole affiliated thing only become benefit when the force you are affiliated to is either on middle ground, or bluntly put, having very high authority like official military, governments branches of guild, in this sense, affiliated is actually a relatively good choice as you don't tied yourself into the politics and still get the limited info and treatments that these unique force might have. In guild case though, I rarely found this make sense. It just plainly better to accept separated individual contract through multiple guillds, much better and much more freedom. After the contract, we go our own way. Much more efficient and less string.

By the way, Eroshrimp, what is the source of that image?? I don't have much context to go on except that sentence.

[Kyureki]

^ It's Solo Spell Caster.

[wuhugm]

^^^
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The thing is, this type of story always have the MC with super growth cheat
So down the line, he will be a threat to everyone

It's better to be affiliated so he has his own people
Having own guild works too, but usually these MCs are super lazy
Better join a guild and become the Ace of it
Like Blast in OPM or something

[dragon1412]

hmmm, I actually questioned the benefits of joining a guild and become an ace if the cheat is super growth, I mean, depend on the settings, super growth can attract way more attentions than just outright powerful from the start. In my opinion, MC with growth cheats are far more better off soloing and hiding from attentions way until he is actually strong enough to stand with the more advanced fighters out there. Super growth depend on settings, might have weakness in the early part where the MC isn't that strong yet, or the growth speed might attract attentions of other which can involved yourself in a lot of politics, which might hamper growth or unnecessary fighting between groups.

@Kyureki: thanks a lot for the source/

[Kyureki]

In the case of Solo Spell Caster, MC had actually intended to stay low until he grew strong enough, but someone went and uploaded a video of him without permission causing the guilds to start rushing to try and recruit him, thus forcing him into the merc thing. Which then ends up working for the better for him since the guild that recruited him had exclusive rights to one of the dungeons he needed to go to and makes an exclusive trading contract with him separate from the merc thing. Not to mention the girl that runs it knows well how to properly value him.

[Rasty]

^ Disclaimer: never read it. So why exactly doesn't he just join the guild? If he already has great relations with its head and exclusive trading (wtf? there is no independence then), what is really the difference?

[Kyureki]

^ I'm assuming it has a novel it's based on and a lot of details are getting left out, so whatever it is the MC is planning isn't really that clear right now. One thing however is that it seems he's the only one with crafter type abilities and things made with normal science don't work inside dungeons, so he'll basically have a monopoly on items that work within dungeons for hunters to use.

[bakato]

This trope usually falls into the following cases:

1. MC is hiding some secret like cheat power or some personal details.
2. MC is a loner, i.e. emo.

But honestly, it's just to appeal to use and I cringe at it.

[apr]

Caught up with 俺にはこの暗がりが心地よかった, the new title by the Net Auction Isekai author. People on 5ch were excited about it, and I've always been into dungeon crawlers, so it seemed a decent fit. Turns out it's pretty good! Just over 500 pages of content out so far, with updates every day, and supposedly over 100 chapters pre-written.

The premise is that God one day shows up on monitors all over the world, announcing his existence, and that he's planning to send 1000 random humans to an isekai with magic and levels, where their progress will be streamed live on earth Youtuber style. The bigger your audience, the more bonus points you get to spend, kind of thing. God turns out to be kind of a dick, and our high school boy protagonist somehow ends up being transferred instead of his lady friend. Cue instant survival mode in a high level jungle, with eventual dungeon diving, wielding shadow spells.

There are also regular "forum thread" chapters to keep the reader informed of the audience reactions, along with the protagonist's super genius twin sisters' commentary, which may turn some people off, I guess. I'm still enjoying it.

[wuhugm]

Not this stupid thing again
Frickin Y2K can only display 2 digits bullshit

[sasuke706]

^From what I recall the web novel had meh pacing and then had a rushed ending despite taking forever for certain 'reveals.'

It felt like it'd go on way longer but then didn't.

[wuhugm]

^Oh, it did?
Romantic end or not?

But it's really stupid that measurement by brightness is more accurate than numbers, smh...

There's another one with barrier cheat (but can do anything, how does that even work) that has MC's mana at 1002 but measurement can only show 2 digits so his thought as 02 mana
So stupid
If a scale measures an elephant, either it breaks or it shows the maximum number it can shows, which is 99 or 999 in this case
Why the heck it correctly measures then put up the last digits instead? This is not a computer

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Romantic end or not?

But it's really stupid that measurement by brightness is more accurate than numbers, smh...

There's another one with barrier cheat (but can do anything, how does that even work) that has MC's mana at 1002 but measurement can only show 2 digits so his thought as 02 mana
So stupid
If a scale measures an elephant, either it breaks or it shows the maximum number it can shows, which is 99 or 999 in this case
Why the heck it correctly measures then put up the last digits instead? This is not a computer

No romantic end.

I've read a novel where something similar occurs. Basically spells are created by a certain type of magic specialist mage that most of the populace isn't educated in (like theoretical physics) through some sort of logic and since humans never even get close to level 99 or higher, they had no way of knowing the stats-analyzing spell didn't show more digits. Not like they had a way to test it.
The novel's title is 世界最強になったウチの嫁について聞いてくれ if anyone is interested. It's above average, I'd say.