(L+CR) Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime) Season 2

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

As an anime only viewer, I do agree that Hinata acting the way she does - closed minded, pigheaded, does not back up her claims, does not research due "lack of time", etc. - plays right into the trope.


For this one particular incident, she is being one-dimensional. She might end up being a very complex character later on, but at this point in the story, she is one-dimensional and does what she does because the story needs her to.

Or because she's the same kind of person as the cops who murder people in their homes on the basis of some dubious tip off.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

As an anime only viewer, I do agree that Hinata acting the way she does - closed minded, pigheaded, does not back up her claims, does not research due "lack of time", etc. - plays right into the trope.


For this one particular incident, she is being one-dimensional. She might end up being a very complex character later on, but at this point in the story, she is one-dimensional and does what she does because the story needs her to.

Again, we are talking about a monster here. Imagine in a Zombie apocalypse setting where you kill tens or hundreds of Zombies everyday, you get info that someone dear to you has been eaten by a certain "intelligent Zombie". Would you first investigate if that Zombie might have "special circumstances"? I doubt that. You forgot that 99% of monsters are hostile to humanity and that sentiment is mutual. Every day who knows how many innocent villagers get killed by wild monsters and monsters get slain by adventurers and Holy Knights in turn. Will you ask every single one of the monsters about whether it's all just a misunderstanding?

[Strahan]

After Hinata walks off, he seemed to come out way faster than I would have. Especially Ranga jumping out of the shadow and them carrying on. She couldn't have been more than a few hundred yards away. I'd be worried she'd sense something.

Dealing with Myulan back in Tempest, being manipulated by Clayman or not, if he just handwaves the whole assault and slaughter because of that and lets her become friends with them all I'll be seriously disappointed. Anime writers just love the enemies become friends trope, but God... I don't think I could forgive her.

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Again, we are talking about a monster here. Imagine in a Zombie apocalypse setting where you kill tens or hundreds of Zombies everyday, you get info that someone dear to you has been eaten by a certain "intelligent Zombie". Would you first investigate if that Zombie might have "special circumstances"? I doubt that. You forgot that 99% of monsters are hostile to humanity and that sentiment is mutual. Every day who knows how many innocent villagers get killed by wild monsters and monsters get slain by adventurers and Holy Knights in turn. Will you ask every single one of the monsters about whether it's all just a misunderstanding?

I would if the supposed merciless monster is passive and trying to explain. I'd at least listen.

[mickbis]

The problems is where did she get Rimuru info...
Something that have credibility enough to made her believe all the info to this point
we could see Rimuru poster with exact details in first episode when Hinata skim over the details of Rimuru
or during the battle..
Rimuru own dialogue also play a part in this and made it worse.. tho I don't think any reason could solve the misunderstanding at this point

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Strahan

After Hinata walks off, he seemed to come out way faster than I would have. Especially Ranga jumping out of the shadow and them carrying on. She couldn't have been more than a few hundred yards away. I'd be worried she'd sense something.

With all of their loud declarations about how they won the fight I was half-expecting her to turn up to finish them off .

Dealing with Myulan back in Tempest, being manipulated by Clayman or not, if he just handwaves the whole assault and slaughter because of that and lets her become friends with them all I'll be seriously disappointed. Anime writers just love the enemies become friends trope, but God... I don't think I could forgive her.

I feel like I'm more considerate of her than I would expect Tempest to be given the circumstances, but I'm guessing she'll probably end up being exiled and Youm will go with her. I feel like we're past the point where she would've been executed, even if she was basically asking for it.

Does Tempest even have a jail to put her in? I doubt they ever expected to need one.

[Tenzen12]

There was no room for compromise in first place. Regardless whether Rimuru is good slime, once he learn his nation is wiped out he will be very pissed one. Why even bother talking?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

There was no room for compromise in first place. Regardless whether Rimuru is good slime, once he learn his nation is wiped out he will be very pissed one. Why even bother talking?

Yeah, that as well. Like what? Even if they came to realize it's a so-called misunderstanding, would Hinata really let Rimuru leave when the church was already involved in the on-going attack on Tempest? Even if Hinata came to the conclusion that Rimuru really didn't kill Hinata, at that point their factions they belonged to were already mortal enemies. There was no way for compromise since it was already too late.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Yeah, that as well. Like what? Even if they came to realize it's a so-called misunderstanding, would Hinata really let Rimuru leave when the church was already involved in the on-going attack on Tempest? Even if Hinata came to the conclusion that Rimuru really didn't kill Hinata, at that point their factions they belonged to were already mortal enemies. There was no way for compromise since it was already too late.

You mean Shizu, right?

I honestly don't see much benefit in compromising with a person like Hinata.

[Tenzen12]

She has lot of power and important inside informations. So regardless of personality there is lot of benefits from hypothetical compromise.

In contrast there is no benefit for Hinata compromising with Rimuru though.

[Kanon]

When Hinata mentioned Rimuru didn't die after the seventh blow because he doesn't have a soul, I figured it wasn't actually him, since he obviously does have a soul. I could tell Hinata wasn't being serious last week, but she seems stronger than I thought, given that Rimuru thinks he probably couldn't have won even without the barriers nerfing him.

The people of Tempest were trying to hide things from Rimuru and I don't think it was just about the goblins getting killed. It was hard not to notice Shion was never once mentioned. However, the title of the next episode being "hope" makes me think she is probably fine.

[grecefar]

Well I was looking foward to rimuru execute myulan right there but damn sage save her D:

[frodonk]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The people of Tempest were trying to hide things from Rimuru and I don't think it was just about the goblins getting killed. It was hard not to notice Shion was never once mentioned. However, the title of the next episode being "hope" makes me think she is probably fine.

I don't think this is the kind of show where they kill off major characters so Shion should be alive.

It will be interesting to see how Rimuru will react to this incident, he still thinks the "no attacking of humans" rule was partially responsible for what happened, will he abolish or change it? Will he bring the fight to Falmuth? Will he call on his allies and take the diplomatic route?

I personally would want to see Rimuru take the Overlord route and take over that entire kingdom but that won't happen I'm sure

[Master_Yoma]

Well Rimuru really got a cool head and fast thinking just didnt flip out and kill Mjurran on the spot

[thundrakkon]

Hinata ===> The very definition of "Confirmation Bias". Yoda voice, "Open mindedness, she is not." I bet you, even after we hear her backstory, we'll still not sympathize with her. She is that far gone off the deep end at this point.


Myulan does have her reasons, although not good enough to compensate for the amount of deaths it led to, but still reasons that some can sympathize with. Her reason is for love and protection of the one she loves. I think Rimuru will understand that part, and it will influence whatever punishment he will eventually dish out. Besides, if he is too harsh, he will end up losing even more valuable people, like Grucius and Youm.


I sort of understand the monsters keeping information about the casualties from Rimuru, but really, they need to keep Rimuru informed of everything in order to make better decisions in the future.


Also, whoever the "informant" is for Hinata, I bet a whole lot that he/she has something to do with Clayman. Hence, Hinata is being used by a monster and being lied to, which adds even further salt to any wounds that will result. Oh heck, I was hoping she got devoured by Gluttony, but I guess her sword will do.


Speaking of which, does using Gluttony on her sword from a body double work? So does Rimumu have access to the sword now and all the powers it possesses? I wonder what those powers are, and how they can be used in the future.


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Originally Posted by GreyZone

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Except that these are not monsters hostile to humanity. It is a nation of monsters that have apparently made alliances with a Dwarf Kingdom and a Human Nation. And Rimuru is the leader of such a nation. If that didn't give you pause to listen to what he has to say, then there isn't much point going further with this. Not to mention, he just went and resolved all the problems Shizue's young pupils were having. Would a ruthless monster do all that? Sorry, but Hinata is being pig-headed for the sake of being pig-headed, and she is using confirmation bias to continue to be pig-headed.



Also, Rimuru is the exact opposite of Hinata regarding this. Even though his capital was devastated, he was willing to listen to what Myulan had to say. The contrast couldn't have been more glaring.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

Myulan does have her reasons, although not good enough to compensate for the amount of deaths it led to, but still reasons that some can sympathize with. Her reason is for love and protection of the one she loves. I think Rimuru will understand that part, and it will influence whatever punishment he will eventually dish out. Besides, if he is too harsh, he will end up losing even more valuable people, like Grucius and Youm.

I think it's to her credit that she seemed to realize her plan of using this as a means of being free and being with Youm wasn't going to happen, so she stuck around to face punishment for what she's done. She was basically egging Rimuru on to kill her.

Also, Rimuru is the exact opposite of Hinata regarding this. Even though his capital was devastated, he was willing to listen to what Myulan had to say. The contrast couldn't have been more glaring.

Granted, Rimuru had the benefit of Great Sage...

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by frodonk

I don't think this is the kind of show where they kill off major characters.......

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[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

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Probably shouldn't be too surprised. The tone never did sell it as that type of show.

[Alchemist007]

I like the angle with the church and human kingdoms with the trade route as the point of conflict. It's a better setup without what sounds like designated guy to dislike Clayman. I think Myulan deserves an appropriate, not so lenient punishment, trying to protect someone doesn't justify the massacre she helped cause.

[Frontier]

With the title Crunchyroll had on there, I was expecting a Black Clover crossover for a second .

Myulan was just a sacrificial pawn for Clayman, he was never expecting her to survive her orders in Tempest or get her heart back, all Clayman wanted was someone to help instigate war between Tempest and other nations. What a piece of scum .

Everyone's all happy about Hakurou and Gobta being okay...until we find out that Shion and Gobzo were among the casualties. And not even Rimuru can contain his own power over his grief, forcing him to recreate the magic reducing mask, which isn't even completely effective as his pure magic cracks the mask in grief. It was a very sad sight .

But who could've expected the adventurer trio to turn up with the solution for saving everyone? Or that Eren would be a princess with her companions actually being her bodyguard? Or that the barriers erected to cut Tempest off and kill the inhabitants might be the only thing that will save everyone? Just a lot of twists going on .

So the solution to reviving the lost lies with Milim's origin and how she became a demon lord. She was the daughter of a human and a dragon (don't ask me how that works biologically) with a dragon companion who, when slaughtered by a king, she utterly ravaged a kingdom in rage for to become a Demon Lord and then revive them. Who would have expected Milim to have such a tragic backstory? But at least in Rimuru's case he has a chance to actually properly revive those who have died since there souls haven't completely left the area .

Rimuru is now on a quest to become a Demon Lord, and that involves killing a bunch of people. Luckily Falmuth is on his way and Rimuru seems set to get some payback against them and the people who ordered the attack .

Rimuru decides to kill Myulan, and she's at peace with that, only taking a moment to kiss the man she loves and declare that she did truly love him. Of course, by "kill," Rimuru means saving Muylan from Clayman's control by giving her an artificial art that's not a listening bug, leaving Myulan free to aid Tempest and be with Youm. And Grucius, who is going to stick around with them until Youm croaks and he gets another chance with Myulan. With friends like these, who needs enemies ?

I see Youm has gone from mercenary, to hero, to hero king, and it's all thanks to Rimuru. He even has a hot lover to boot who technically only met him because she needed to get into Rimuru's village! Good for him .

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Frontier

But who could've expected the adventurer trio to turn up with the solution for saving everyone? Or that Eren would be a princess with her companions actually being her bodyguard? Or that the barriers erected to cut Tempest off and kill the inhabitants might be the only thing that will save everyone? Just a lot of twists going on .

The real surprise is that two thirds of that trio once made a living as guards for an actual princess.