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Old 2021-03-02, 15:55   Link #141
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I saw a lot of people on the world-wide web complaining that this episode was too slow and I can't understand why. As a complete source reader who has read every possible version of this story, it was actually too fast-paced for my liking.
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Old 2021-03-02, 15:57   Link #142
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Maybe they want to get to what comes next faster?
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Old 2021-03-02, 17:33   Link #143
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Maybe they want to get to what comes next faster?
Maybe? Kinda pointless if you don't set the story up properly first. Rimuru can't just make the decision what comes next willy-nilly.

Of course the source readers know how everything came to be, but the anime isn't made just for them.

I thought the episode was fine. Only issue is now I have to wait another seven days .. that's a long wait
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Old 2021-03-02, 19:07   Link #144
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This is just way too convenient. Rimiru finds out he lost dear friends during the attack, and right when he's about to "put them to rest", the adventurers come in and tell him how to resurrect them. Not just that, but apparently Milim's origin story is only known to a very select few, so it's not like it's common knowledge in this world.

And what was up with Rimuru saying his heart has turned into that of a monster since he can't even cry when he shed tears not even two minutes ago? That remark is even weirder considering he knows plenty of nice monsters.
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Old 2021-03-02, 19:13   Link #145
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This is just way too convenient. Rimiru finds out he lost dear friends during the attack, and right when he's about to "put them to rest", the adventurers come in and tell him how to resurrect them. Not just that, but apparently Milim's origin story is only known to a very select few, so it's not like it's common knowledge in this world.

And what was up with Rimuru saying his heart has turned into that of a monster since he can't even cry when he shed tears not even two minutes ago? That remark is even weirder considering he knows plenty of nice monsters.
I guess from a certain point of view the relationships Rimuru's cultivated through his efforts have coalesced to give him the means of saving his friends and loved ones in his darkest hour .
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Old 2021-03-02, 19:59   Link #146
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I saw a lot of people on the world-wide web complaining that this episode was too slow and I can't understand why. As a complete source reader who has read every possible version of this story, it was actually too fast-paced for my liking.
Exactly. The pacing of this episode is definitely fast. These people are just probably eager on seeing the war against the Falmuth.
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Old 2021-03-02, 20:20   Link #147
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I didn't feel anything wrong with the pacing. The series actually takes it time more than not, but I didn't feel that way with this episode.


The trio coming at the exact time as needed was a bit out of the blue. How did they get here so fast, considering how large Tempest is?


Milim's backstory is quite tragic, but wow, she wiped out a whole nation. Then again, Rimuru can probably do the same, so it might not be that big of a deal. I am curious who her father is, though. Is she related to Veldora? Well, there is supposedly 4 true dragons or something like that, so her father could be one of them?


As for Myulan, although her actions did cause a lot of death, I felt her "punishment" was not enough. However, I guess that is one way to gain her full loyalty for Rimuru's use in the future. Besides, the convenient story of how all those people who died can now somehow be revived lessens the loss.


Well, looking forward to Rimuru killing at least 10,000 soldiers. Do all of them deserve this death? Probably not, but most of the blame is squarely on the King and the Holy Church.
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Old 2021-03-02, 21:16   Link #148
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A big convenient the trio showed up when they did, but it got us to where we are now with Rimuru essentially going to war with Falmuth and aiming to become a demon lord.
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Old 2021-03-02, 21:25   Link #149
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Even if it was a short scene since te trio immediately came to talk about resurrection (I liked millim story), the death of shion was sad for me.

Booo rimuru, he should've really killed myulan. I really hate that forgiving nature and there is a limit for that. I want to believe if he couldn't revive shion and the others it would've been another story for myulan. Anyway I'm just looking foward to the slaughter against falmuth.
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Old 2021-03-02, 21:44   Link #150
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Poor Gobzo put his life on the line to protect Shuna
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Old 2021-03-02, 23:53   Link #151
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Man, I am so ready for Tempest and gang to go on the offensive. I do admit that those adventurers coming in to talk about the fairy tale kinda ruined the emotional impact of Shion being dead, but I guess I'm glad I don't have to worry too much about her being possibly dead forever.
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Old 2021-03-03, 00:19   Link #152
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The trio arrive on time is definitely anime took the thing to their convenience, that why source reader complain how this is a very fast pace episode

Spoiler for actual manga and novel source:


Well it work in anime format somehow
but it is definitely not better outcome

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Old 2021-03-03, 00:25   Link #153
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The trio coming at the exact time as needed was a bit out of the blue. How did they get here so fast, considering how large Tempest is?
It seems like they rushed down there as soon as they heard what had happened.
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As for Myulan, although her actions did cause a lot of death, I felt her "punishment" was not enough. However, I guess that is one way to gain her full loyalty for Rimuru's use in the future. Besides, the convenient story of how all those people who died can now somehow be revived lessens the loss.
Technically Myulan is partially responsible for why they have a chance to save everyone thanks to the barriers, which I assume is what Rimuru wanted her help with, so I think that will be her way of atoning.
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Well, looking forward to Rimuru killing at least 10,000 soldiers. Do all of them deserve this death? Probably not, but most of the blame is squarely on the King and the Holy Church.
I'm guessing they'll all be monster-haters so we don't feel too guilty about them getting slaughtered...
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Old 2021-03-03, 01:36   Link #154
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A big convenient the trio showed up when they did, but it got us to where we are now with Rimuru essentially going to war with Falmuth and aiming to become a demon lord.
It seems too convenient. At least the trio revealed to Rimuru about their true identities. They are the first humans who got in touch with Rimuru. So, they are not random character. At first, the show appeared to be the mix of Sim City and Civilization games. Now, the story is about geopolitics and proxy wars..

Come to think of it. Before Rimuru left the cave, he passed by these trio. It was the first sign someone is pulling the string by these trio.

Then, Rimuru entered the goblin village. They told him that they had the vision about him. He became their prophet leader. Rimuru fought off the wolf invaders and subdued them. He then gave them names. In Japanese anime/manga occult fiction, a name has mana like power. They became stronger and became like humans. Because of Rimuru, they bond together. Else, they will fight each other if Rimuru is gone forever. Since Rimuru aims to become a good slime, his monster followers also become good monsters.

Not satisfying with the craftmanship, Rimuru invited Dwarf to build his metropolis.

The orc invasion and oni refugees led Rimuru to fortified his city. He began to realized the puppetmaster maou is pulling a string behind the orc aggression. Before the orc king evolve to a new maou, Rimuru managed to defeat him. As the result, the large portion of the forest is under Rimuru's control.

The forest used to be a dangerous place. Only adventurers and powerful nation step foot into the forest. Most civilian and commercial activities are bypassing the danger zone. Rimuru secured the route in the forest. It is as building Suez Canal and Panama Canal across continents. The route saved the merchants a lot of time and money. Instead, the kingdom used to be benefited from the travelers taking longer routes suffers a finanlly. So, the king decides to turn the prospering monster city to nothing. This time, the puppet maou is pulling the string again. The puppuet may want to take the forest for himself.

The puppet maou also fight another fronts. Instead fighting beast maou directly, the puppet maou manipulated the ancient twintails maou to attack the beast maou. He probably know the ancient twintails maou is in friendly term with Rimuru. To prevent the beast maou's people to take refugee in Rimuru's city, the puppet maou orders his subject to set up the magic barrier around the city. Since most of Rimuru's followers are monsters, they are weakened by the magic barrier.

Rimuru seems to have confidence to fight off the kingdom. Realizing he and his monster city will not survived from more challenges, he decided to take the trio's advise. He even have confidence to depose the rival king and replace him with his friends. Besides, he might have the chance to revive the deads. The corpses are lying ground without getting rotten or attracting flies, the double magic barriers must be working.

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Old 2021-03-03, 02:58   Link #155
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God forbid a story make it's characters go through some emotional growth by having to deal with the death/s of friends and companions. Nope, we'll just deus ex machina that shit. Honestly, I didn't really have high hopes that this show would show some real depth, but for a millisecond it almost got me.
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Old 2021-03-03, 07:49   Link #156
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God forbid a story make it's characters go through some emotional growth by having to deal with the death/s of friends and companions. Nope, we'll just deus ex machina that shit. Honestly, I didn't really have high hopes that this show would show some real depth, but for a millisecond it almost got me.
As much as I like this anime, I have to agree. For a second, I really thought they'd keep all those characters including Shion dead to give some depth to the gravity of the situation but nope. A quick moment later, there's a plan for resurrection.
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Old 2021-03-03, 10:13   Link #157
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I would agree if it was Shuna, but no amount of character grow is equivalent exchange to death Shion.
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Old 2021-03-03, 10:29   Link #158
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As much as I like this anime, I have to agree. For a second, I really thought they'd keep all those characters including Shion dead to give some depth to the gravity of the situation but nope. A quick moment later, there's a plan for resurrection.
Maybe the author didn't want Rimuru to kill 20000 people for vengeance. But it's different if it's to resurrect his people.
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Old 2021-03-03, 13:05   Link #159
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Looks like I was right about Shion not dying, well she's technically dead but will be brought back to life soon

I'll have to admit though eating an entire army wasn't something I thought was an option for how to deal with the human attackers
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Old 2021-03-03, 14:40   Link #160
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Maybe the author didn't want Rimuru to kill 20000 people for vengeance. But it's different if it's to resurrect his people.
It's just another example of an author wanting to have it both ways. Rimuru gets extra justification for killing off a bunch of invaders, and not have to suffer much moral backlash about killing off 10-20K soldiers, or taking over another country. All the while getting to become even more OP. Win win for team Rimuru.
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