2021-04-09, 05:53 | Link #21 |
Index III was a mistake
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 33
|
Great chapter.
Big Mom is clearly creating a new cloud Homie (which means Zeus 1.0 is going back to Nami eventually). How will Kidd and Killer deal with her considering her natural advantage against them? My personal opinion about using Conqueror's Haki to coat yourself in conjunction with Armament Haki is that its still okay and doesn't really break the system because of how extremely varied and flexible Oda has made the overall fighting system of One Piece. If regular Conqeror's Haki can be resisted if you have a strong enough spirit, there should be effective means of countering the Conqueror's Armament as well. And we've essentially seen that throughout the entire fight given that Zoro, Law and Killer have had success in piercing Kaido. Didn't expect Luffy sending both Law and Zoro back down though. (kinda ruins the prospects of a potential Sanji vs King fight...) But I did expect Luffy to have a solo portion of the fight. My bold prediction is that eventually once everything's said and done, all of the straw hats will eventually make it all the way to the top for a climactic showdown with Kaido.
__________________
|
2021-04-09, 07:53 | Link #22 | |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
|
Quote:
I'd say Kid and Killer are the ones in the most trouble, since Big Mom didn't receive much damage during this fight.
__________________
|
|
2021-04-09, 11:05 | Link #23 | |||
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
|
Quote:
Quote:
Also there needed to be more to CoC than just knocking out mooks, you are just projecting your own headcanon into this. Quote:
Pretty sure that it’s Queen that Sanji is going to fight. Last edited by LKK; 2021-04-09 at 13:48. Reason: Posts merged. Don't post multiple times in a row. Use Edit button instead. |
|||
2021-04-09, 11:20 | Link #24 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
Quote:
Oh, and is it just me, or did Zoro's blades finally darken when he unleashed that Asura technique, there.....? Quote:
BTW, going back to BM's homies, I definitely agree that Oda just opened the door to Zeus becoming a permanent power-up for Nami. And coincidentally, she DID say a few chapters back that she needed stronger thunder to beat Ulti, did she not? |
||
2021-04-09, 17:34 | Link #25 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Age: 33
|
Even though I don't like the way CoC is used and will probably be used from now on from the top fighters I do like the chapter a lot. It feels like we finally saw another major power up of Luffy and after this arc there will be no-one left who doesn't acknowledge him as one of the Yonkou.
Also we finally know for sure that Zoro has CoC which IMO is great but I was expecting him to finally open his other eye in this battle and to say that he had a reason to keep it closed for such a long period of time and that it is not actually cut. I guess I will be crossing fingers for the next big fight |
2021-04-09, 18:55 | Link #27 |
Index III was a mistake
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 33
|
That's still up in the air; but definitely most likely now. If Zoro's gonna come down from the roof then he needs an opponent befitting him. King is the only one at the moment.
If Zoro stayed on the roof, then Sanji vs King makes more sense as I believe they are designed similar to each other.
__________________
|
2021-04-11, 14:04 | Link #29 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
|
Quote:
|
|
2021-04-11, 17:54 | Link #32 |
One-Eyed Dragon
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NJ, USA
|
I hope BM gives up on Zeus so that he can go help Nami. I wonder what Prometheus favor is and how it relates to the increasing clouds. Not sure Kid and Killer can take her down, but hopefully keep her and Kaido apart.
Zoro being revealed to indeed have CoC is great to finally see. Luffy realizing he has a power up to try/use is good. Ryuo + CoC hopefully takes down Kaido, maybe not for good but at least knocked out.
__________________
|
2021-04-11, 18:24 | Link #34 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
|
Yea, I've just been assuming that Zoro and Garp have CoC. Zoro is confirmed now, but it would too weird for Garp not to have it. Even Don Chinjao had it and Garp beat him too
Quote:
Probably because he knew that you could only learn or realize these new powers when fighting for your life and being pushed to the brink. He probably trusted that Luffy was strong enough after their training to be able to learn them on his own when the time was right. I think he even mentioned that new powers could awaken when fighting the top tier new world fighters |
|
2021-04-11, 19:07 | Link #35 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
|
I pretty much just chalked it up to Rayleigh not having enough time to teach him. Remember, he DID tell Luffy that two years wasn't enough to train him in anything beyond the basics. Otherwise, I figure he'd have already taught him ryuuou long before Hyougoro got the chance to, heh.
|
2021-04-11, 23:12 | Link #36 |
Annie Leonhart
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Indiana
|
Chapter 1010
Well this is turning out pretty cool for a chapter. Has for Zoro he is barely scratching the Conquer Haki and he has done the most damage of any of the Supernovas. None of Luffy’s hits worked up until now. His potential are huge. Also Zoro learned to cut fire from just watching Kin emon I wonder if he can gain it from watching Luffy. I predict Jimbi will be another user of Conquer haki. The Straw hat are going to be similar to Shanks and Gold Rogers crew. They are going to be a very powerful crew. Has the conqueror haki I never imagined it being used like an advanced form of a really advance form of armor haki. I curious to see what clever way Shanks uses conquer haki. This will be cool when Luffy and shanks meets up. I wonder if he will show up at the end of this arch. Prometheus and Zeus were weak I am curious to see how this ends with Kaidou and Big Mama. I am surprised Kaidou saved Big Mama. I don’t know if anyone noticed but Prometheus was has useless has Zeus. It was Kaidou that freed Prometheus by taking Law and Zoro on. Pheonix fruit If what law said is true about Zoro then Marco is the only one who can get Zoro back in to the fight condition. I am curious if Zoro will inherit the fruit from Marco or get a zoan fruit. I anticipated Zoro being badly damaged but I am curious how this will unfold. I don’t think he is going to be out of the fight. Big league It will be hard for readers to realize this but if Luffy defeats Kaidiou he will have Yonkous status title. I am curious how the story will go after this. Oda won’t be able to treat the straw hats has Under dogs. Especially for taking Down two Yonkous. |
2021-04-12, 08:12 | Link #37 | |
Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2021-04-13, 10:53 | Link #38 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
|
Quote:
My guess is, he never intended to train him past the basics nor to guide him towards the most efficient path. Gear4 is a mistake in Rayleigh's eyes and he didn't stop Luffy from going that route, even when Luffy reacted with KKG to his critic on Gear4. He also left the island early, so lack of training time isn't a real issue as well. When talking about future sight he didn't give a hint on how to get there, if he said that CoC can be coated, that itself would be a hint on what to do. a very minor difference, but that's what I'm going with for now. So here is the main reason. It's a bit hard to convey with lots of assumptions, but what if Rayleigh trained him properly? Luffy would know a little more and apply it in a limited form. He wouldn't have struggled as much and therefore wouldn't have bloomed as much either. Wihout the raw strength in Haki, it might not be posible to access certain techniques anyway. Luffy probably would have a more normal grow curve too. He'd still get strong, but this takes a lot of time. If we compare him with other characters at his level I'd guess 10-15 years. But that is time the world doesn't have to wait for him. Rayleigh, Roger, Oden, Toki, they all new the exact time when history would reach its next climax. 2 year + a little time for the journey was all that was left until the prophecy had to come true. Probably a thing they learned at Laugh Tale. This is my opinion for now. |
|
2021-04-13, 13:21 | Link #39 |
7th Order Knight / Hermit
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: St. Celestina
|
I think Rayleigh wants Luffy to develop Haki on his own, as I recall that he only taught Luffy the basic thing about Haki, while the rest is up to him. So, in my point of view, Rayleigh won't give Luffy all the lessons he received, rather, he wants Luffy to learn it on his own.
|
2021-04-13, 18:07 | Link #40 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
|
|