(L) Dungeon ni Deai o Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka (LN)

[Draigathar]

i think it was during the xeno's arc if i remember right someone broke into hestia's familia home they never found out who did it as far as i know wouldn't be surprised if it was freya familia. My guess for that was she was looking to see if Hestia kept records for status updates i'm guessing most gods/godess's burn or tell the members to burn the status updates so they can keep there familia members status/skills hidden.

[jagt]

Originally Posted by ozman

Vol 17

Spoiler for spoiler:

how freya familia know realise freese before enter the familia??

Spoiler for spoiler:

Bell spent a good part of volume 17 in Freya familia's base, Freya took several looks at Bell's status and possibly told others about what she saw.

[Sekiryuu12]

Originally Posted by ozman

Vol 17

Spoiler for spoiler:

how freya familia know realise freese before enter the familia??

In vol 7 Ishitar told her that their charm (Beauty Goddess') didn't work on him and what the person above said.

[tuckersister]

If Bell is a descendant of a hero, I wouldn't be shocked. But what would be the point of it.

We still haven't heard any info about the heroes. They must have been absurdly strong to fight that deep in the dungeon without god's power.

Bell born with divinity in his soul just makes sense. It's starts out so small and accumulate every time he fights in the dungeon, a battle or up his rank. His soul being transparent is unnatural.

Anyway looking forward to the Freya War. If this event causes a friction with in the Familia, the other Familia aren't going to be only problem. Freya will lose control of everything and slowly go crazy even though she currently on the verge of it. Lets hope Bell save her before she goes completely mental!!

FYI, her Familia are NOT that dumb to know what's going with Freya. Now she caused a massive mess that cause everyone in the city to target her. As I said before this mess will cause a friction in the Familia. I would like to see the state they're in during this war now that they are the enemy of the whole city.

[Sekiryuu12]

The old heroes were blessed by spirits, at least Albert was like that.

[tuckersister]

Oh yeah I completely forgot about it. Aria was something like that right?

There is still much of this world that we don’t know. I’m well aware that the gods and goddesses are the outsiders. There also seems to be none native to this world, which means the spirits are sort of the substitute for them. We don’t know what other being are considered to be equal to the gods and goddesses.

[kagato3]

A few years ago the mobile game did a story of one of the first heroes as well as Welf's ancestor this was before the gods came.

[Misha Necron]

Originally Posted by ozman

Vol 17

Spoiler for spoiler:

how freya familia know realise freese before enter the familia??

I think the one who told them is Tamus, the boytoy of Ishtar. In volume 7 Ishtar looked at Bell's status and Tamus heard Ishtar the name of the skill that could nullify charm.

[ozman]

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[demonicslayer]

Originally Posted by kagato3

A few years ago the mobile game did a story of one of the first heroes as well as Welf's ancestor this was before the gods came.

Yeah, some of the details (whether canon or not) can be found from the mobile game. I kinda regret never play the game. The story itself might have worth playing the game. The story adds a lot of smaller details to the story in the novel.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by demonicslayer

Yeah, some of the details (whether canon or not) can be found from the mobile game. I kinda regret never play the game. The story itself might have worth playing the game. The story adds a lot of smaller details to the story in the novel.

Fairly sure the Author stated the events in that story are canon but the appearance of the people isn't. Last year's anniversary was petty good dealing with the fall of Ryu's Family

[GDB]

Some are, some aren't. The Argonaut ones definitely are. If I recall, there was one to go along with the latest season that tried to tie Argonaut's story to Bell and Asterius that not only goes against what was said in the anime (and I'm fairly sure the LN), but also kind of hurts Bell as a character (imo).

[AP24]

Do you know who this is?



The answer is...

Spoiler for answer:

Bell Cranel

[Wandering Soul]

I was going to say Bell's mother Meteria

[tuckersister]

Will Bell's family ever be mention or dived in depth to in a future volume of the LN?

[demonicslayer]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Will Bell's family ever be mention or dived in depth to in a future volume of the LN?

I don't think it will be mentioned in the novel that much. Most likely some details might appear later but I think all these information will be more likely to be found in Danmachi mobile game. A lot of backstory about our beloved characters are found there. Even Zeus and Hera familia stories are there too, although from what I've heard, too much plot devices used.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Well

Spoiler for Spoiler response mk 2:

I figure it's the end of the Freya familia in this story one way or another. This is the climax of Freya's story line where she has literally gone all in to take Bell by force and is burning her metaphorical bridges with the city.

Spoiler:

Freya fully knows and is willing to give up everything to pursue that one thing which is purposely left blank in the book. I suspect that is the victory requirement for Bell in the war game to figure out what that thing is, and whatever it is it is not [love].

I did not do the last chapter, it was hard to do short of a direct translation, but it is obvious in the end, the voice inside Freya:
”when will you realize your true wish?” As a voice which had been buried in her heart long ago echos.

The earlier part is translated, and this Freya’s speech before charming Orario also shows that.

“because Ishtar was shackled by boring hostility, she became a virtueless beast”
“It was too ugly, so I sent her back.”

"Then I plan to become as ugly as she was.”
"I'm willing to accept the insults, no matter how much you want to despise me. But I won't apologize because I have already decided."
"I found what I wanted"
"Found something that cannot be replaced."
“I will be satisfy with just that.”
"Finally, I might be able to know something other than love.”

Freya takes off her hood, and revealing Syr's face shedding tears.

"So I want to know."
"So I won't let go."
"So I want to invade the world(you).”

(Loki: @#^%*&?!!!!)

Originally Posted by tuckersister

Will Bell's family ever be mention or dived in depth to in a future volume of the LN?

Spoiler:

probably not until they take on the black dragon. We already knew some bits and pieces from mobile game.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for differences:

Fel was charmed. So Ouranos had to go a round about way to get anything done without tipping off Freya.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for After chapter one.:

By making deal to fight the black dragon, Quranos, who was not charmed, allows it because he think this will test Bell and makes him better, furthermore, there is nothing he can do.

Spoiler:

I should say there is nothing he can do “right now”, as he used the same words when talking to Hestia, Hestia is smart enough to shut up with Fel at the side and leave the blood to him, then Ouranos only needs to do is prepares the firewoods then commands Fels to change the duty of distribute firewoods in Orario from Ganesha to Hermes familiar. This way nothing will tip off Freya familia.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for Folkvangr:

Realizing Freya is more and more like Syr if Bell is no converted soon, Hedin and Allen intensified the training for Bell.

Spoiler:

While Freya wants to use intense training to break Bell, when Hedin suggests that it achieves two aims, all the high ranking stay home to beat up Bell allow Asfi to move freely, then this allows him to dispatch the lower ranks not to watch Bell, and all he needs to do is a final push to encourage Bell to move forward.

Why? I think his love/royalty to Freya and him treating Bell as his student let him reach the conclusion what the best solution is for both of them.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for At the End of her World:

Helen first berates Bell for the pain she causes the Goddess as she is always crying, she wish she could have met Bell before Syr, then she could had used her own identity to love him and spared the Goddess the suffering,

Spoiler for :

Helen shares all senses and feeling with Freya/Syr. Which explains her hatred and love relation with Bell, in 17 while forbidding from contact Bell by Freya, she was watching his every moves, and falls for him after watching him repeatedly getting work over, kind of like how Rin falls for Shirou in UBW after seeing him try repeatedly to clear a jump.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for At the End of her World:

After realized they had been charmed the assorted angry familia surround Folkvangr.,

Spoiler:

true it is done with the Loki high rank keeping the Freya high rank busy, but it is the Hephaestus familiar which breaches and takes over the outer wall of Folkvangr.

forgot to mention Royman Mardeel's role in this, which is impressive beyond his look, he is the only one in the guild able to resist the initial charm by punching his own stomach to force Freya to charm him again, and he thinks quick enough to order a cease fire once the charm is broken to preserve the Freya familiar.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for At the End of her World:

Bell ranked 7th on the “I want the male adventurer to call me Oneesama” list.

Spoiler:

The discussion overwhelming guess Finn must be near the top on the list, and the second reaction is “there are 6 guys in front of Bell?” after all, his nickname on ptt is “walking harmone”, and Helen calls him a “sex fiend”.

Originally Posted by Hata

Spoiler for At the End of her World:

Bell gains lots of fans in the Freya Familia, Freys/Syr, Helen, Vanir, Heith, Hogni, Hedin…

Spoiler:

Hedin: my student
Hogni: umm, friend? no, bestie?
Heith: he is kind of cute.
All the lower rank males: getting beat up by the higher rank like us making us buddy.

Freya familiar, to be honest, are made up mostly of social skill impaired males only think of Freya, which is why it is very easy for Bell to get on the good side with the female members.

[tuckersister]

Freya and her Familia will definitely get exiled at the end of this despite the result. Bell will talk down Freya and carefully use his words so that she doesn’t escalate the situation. Ottar has to do something about his goddess. He cannot take a backseat after what she has done.

[n0m@n]

Well, the latest volume stated in several occasion that there was no way Freya familia would be exiled even after all this stunt. They had too much to offer to Orario so they can only give them a heavy penalty at most but definitely not an exile. Hence the reason Freya done what she did in this volume (well, also because she got out of control).