(L) Futari Ecchi

[darkwave]

Originally Posted by Sh1ka9on

man, no offense, but "wtf" are you ramblin' about?

LOL, i knew i was going to get this reaction. Thank You, by the way.

Yes, I over did the whole Hentai and Ero thing.......

Sorry...

[Keitaro]

lol i cant believe an H/ero anime made it onto the animesuki main dl list. Mistakes do happen I guess.

[Weissent]

Originally Posted by kj1980

[...] I stress the word "ero" because here in Japan, no one uses the term "hentai" or "ecchi" as an adjective to describe mangas, animes, games, and pictures anymore.

Ok, question: what does the term "ero-ero" mean then? I remember I heard it once or twice in Azumanga Daioh during one of the summer-house episodes, when Tomo asks the teachers to talk about the 'real' stuff and give away some private details. Is 'ero-ero' just on a higher level compared to 'ero', the superlative of 'ero' ('super-ero' y'know), so to say? Or is it just another word for doing the two-backed-beast?

Not that it really matters, just out of pure interest ...

[Keitaro]

Originally Posted by Weissent

Ok, question: what does the term "ero-ero" mean then? I remember I heard it once or twice in Azumanga Daioh during one of the summer-house episodes, when Tomo asks the teachers to talk about the 'real' stuff and give away some private details. Is 'ero-ero' just on a higher level compared to 'ero', the superlative of 'ero' ('super-ero' y'know), so to say? Or is it just another word for doing the two-backed-beast?

Not that it really matters, just out of pure interest ...

I was told by KJ that ero was for short erotic.

[Loki_Sama]

ok ppl its kinda like this

Hentai = PERVERT, although HEN = wierd/strange
ecchi = horny
EROI=also horny LOL but ppl use it also as ERO

WORLDWIDE ERO = Erotic.....i dont care where you from you all know this world

KJ, stop your NON-JAPANESE thing dont look down at us, ERO is used everywhere not just japan got it?

And yeah i like to use the word HENTAI cuss its some perverted Ecchi (horny ) things, but FUNNY! So stop this nonsense and go watch GREEN GREEN

[Loki_Sama]

LOL im watching ep 1 and at the start of the tittle, it said

futari eccHi...... H in yellow letter, and above H in yello leter, which = HENTAI

[cf18]

No I find the manga to be more perverted.

And kj please forget about this Hentai & Ecchi v.s. Ero crusade. "Ero" came from English, hence make it uncool. "Hentai" and "Ecchi" came from Japanese, something the older folks don't know, hence make it cool. That is probably the reason that make "Ero" more cool in Japan.

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Sorry, but we at AnimeSuki have decided that it is too ecchi to list on our site or post links to it. On the other hand, this thread tells you what group subbed it so you shouldn't have to ask the question.

Warning: This show is a lot more ecchi than the Futari H manga was.

You're not linking to it anymore?
That's too bad.

I felt the manga was more ecchi than the anime version, not the other way around.

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About the ERO Vs. HENTAI discussion:

I think non-japanese people like to use 'ecchi' and 'hentai' because those terms sound more japanese to them than 'ero'.
Not to mention I've heard 'ecchi' and 'hentai' being said in anime a lot more than 'ero'.

This is probably partially due to the fact the rest of the world is somewhat behind japan in anime.

I 've heard 'ero' being used too though, for example in Naruto when Naruto calls Jiraiya 'ero-sennin'.

[vio5555]

I like the word Hentai, it has a more risque feel to the tongue and so I will continue to say Hentai

[chImp]

So what's this Hanbu and Hone website? ;x

[Esperchld]

cf 18, since when did ero come from English. the greek eros (the god of love, son of Aphredite), and is also used there in to describe sexual love. It is also used as a prefix in that language as well, which is where we stole it. There are almost no words in the English language that come from itself, it is, for the most part, a language of stolen words.

Hanbu and Hone have no site as far as I know.

[warnold]

Hanbu and HonE's releases are at gotwoot.

-
-billy-

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

You're not linking to it anymore?
That's too bad.

I felt the manga was more ecchi than the anime version, not the other way around.

--

About the ERO Vs. HENTAI discussion:

I think non-japanese people like to use 'ecchi' and 'hentai' because those terms sound more japanese to them than 'ero'.
Not to mention I've heard 'ecchi' and 'hentai' being said in anime a lot more than 'ero'.

This is probably partially due to the fact the rest of the world is somewhat behind japan in anime.

I 've heard 'ero' being used too though, for example in Naruto when Naruto calls Jiraiya 'ero-sennin'.

The usage of the word "ecchi" and "hentai" to describe a person's actions (i.e. a guy peeping into a girl's changeroom "baka~! hentai~!") and for the action verb blatantly meaning "to have sex" (na-na-, imakara sokono rabuho ni haittesa-, ecchidemo shiyouze~!).

I was referring to the usage of "ecchi" and "hentai" as an adjective to define a certain type of anime, manga, and game genre.

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by cf18

No I find the manga to be more perverted.

And kj please forget about this Hentai & Ecchi v.s. Ero crusade. "Ero" came from English, hence make it uncool. "Hentai" and "Ecchi" came from Japanese, something the older folks don't know, hence make it cool. That is probably the reason that make "Ero" more cool in Japan.

So does the term "anime."

Please enlighten me (seriously, since I have a hard time understanding English preference of Japanized English terms from a Japanese-person's standpoint) on how one way:

A. "Anime" (shortened Japanized-English for the word "animation")

is different from preference of:

B. "Ero" (shortened Japanized-English for the word "erotic")

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by Loki_Sama

ok ppl its kinda like this

Hentai = PERVERT, although HEN = wierd/strange
ecchi = horny
EROI=also horny LOL but ppl use it also as ERO

WORLDWIDE ERO = Erotic.....i dont care where you from you all know this world

KJ, stop your NON-JAPANESE thing dont look down at us, ERO is used everywhere not just japan got it?

And yeah i like to use the word HENTAI cuss its some perverted Ecchi (horny ) things, but FUNNY! So stop this nonsense and go watch GREEN GREEN

Okay, let me get this straight. you don't want me to use the word "gaijin" because it sounds like "looking down on them." I accepted that.

Then you didn't want me to use the word "foreigners" because it sounds like "looking down on them." I accepted that as well.

Hence, I have been using the word "non-Japanese." But you don't want me to use that term either because it sounds like "looking down on them."

You don't want me doing that either. Please tell me then, what word shall I use that maybe feasible for me to write down when i explain stuff from a Japanese person's standpoint?

I take it that you are part hispanic. Let's say you want to explain the greatness of Latin American TV, Drama and movies. And let's say you are on an non-Latin American BBS board trying to explain the greatness of Director Robert Rodriquez's Mexican film "El Mariachi," influencing the Hollywood remake of "Desperado" starring Antonio Banderas. And let's say you are trying to tell people on that board (who are mostly non-Latinos who only watched Hollywood's "Desperado") about the original "El Mariachi." How would you try to explain to these people about "El Mariachi" in a long statement without using the term "non-latinos" or "non-Hispanics" or "non-Spanish speaking audience?" If you are going to explain something that is specific to certain region to someone not from that region, of course you are going to have to compare and differentiate by regional basis. It's like an American soldier going to Iraq and trying to "educate" the Iraqi council that "in America, we have civil rule and democracy...." Can all these be taken as being "looked down upon." From what I have been taken, most likely yes. But rest assurred, we all do that with no intention of doing such a thing.

From your standpoint, it may seem like I am "looking down upon you," from my view, I am giving you up-to-date Japanese info.

From a non-Hispanic standpoint, it may seem like they are being "looked down upon" by someone in a Latin American country, whereas he is just trying to giving them info on a Mexican director who should be highly recognized for influencing Hollywood movies.

From an Iraqi standpoint, they feel they are being subjugated by American presence, whereas the Americans are most likely just trying to give the Iraqis a chance to "succeed via democracy."

So, if you give me a nice, more gentle way that I should write, please tell me as I will compromise. However, in such differences of culture and language between Japanese and English, the simplest way to compare the two is to contrast as well.


P.S.: for some reason, I didn't like the anime version of GuriGuri. It had a whole different feel to it compared to the original PC game....it's quite hard to describe...the story was very similar, the setting was similar...hmm...

[a_nevels666]

Originally Posted by kj1980

So does the term "anime."

Please enlighten me (seriously, since I have a hard time understanding English preference of Japanized English terms from a Japanese-person's standpoint) on how one way:

A. "Anime" (shortened Japanized-English for the word "animation")

is different from preference of:

B. "Ero" (shortened Japanized-English for the word "erotic")

I don't think there is any real logic to it. Maybe because 'anime' is more different from 'animation' than 'ero' is from 'erotic'. Or perhaps because 'animation' doesn't have such a negative feeling connected to to it as 'erotic' has for a lot of people.

I know I personally much prefer 'hentai/ecchi' to 'ero', purely based on the exotic-coolness-factor.

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by a_nevels666

I don't think there is any real logic to it. Maybe because 'anime' is more different from 'animation' than 'ero' is from 'erotic'. Or perhaps because 'animation' doesn't have such a negative feeling connected to to it as 'erotic' has for a lot of people.

I know I personally much prefer 'hentai/ecchi' to 'ero', purely based on the exotic-coolness-factor.

hmm...for some reason, that explains a lot.

Perhaps that maybe the reason why I see a lot of people using terms like "He/she is such a baka" are used commonly (at least on this board...do many people use this?) by many when a simpler term "He/she is such an idiot" is available.

But I take it that as we begin to see more and more ero-game to anime transfers, in a few years, many outside of Japan will start saying the term "ero" for the "exotic-coolness-factor" that that is the word used in Japan to describe such anime, manga, and games.

[LordBrian]

kj1980: I really hope you go off on Japanese people who misuse English words or misrepresent American culture on Japanese forums like you do on this one.

[hunterx]

I bet bukkake is more popular than the word hentai in english . People like to make distinctions on how ecchi or hentai something is, it basically falls into 3 categories for me. Explicit sex goes into the hentai box, big boobs and panties into the ecchi box and the rest is anime.

[monir]

Originally Posted by LordBrian

kj1980: I really hope you go off on Japanese people who misuse English words or misrepresent American culture on Japanese forums like you do on this one.

Hoping would not do. Kj speaks/reads/writes/understands English very well. So he is capable of defending his stand points on Japasese Culture in a forum where the English language is the medium of communication. Kj shouldn't be the only one defending American culture in a Japanese forum. If any American feels the necessity to do so, then one should just learn Japanese very well and start making their own points in a Japanese forum; just like kj's contribution to this English-speaking forum. Intended feelings and emotions will come out right according to the thoughts of the speakers who may feel that American culture may be misrepresented.

One other misconception of the language English is that America is the only country in the world that uses English language as a primary medium of communication or atleast that is the impression (unintentionally I guess) some of the post around the forum hints to. There are words in English that have different meaning among the english speaking countries and even different spelling for the same words in English.