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Old 2007-06-04, 22:43   Link #521
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I dont know how the idea of a Tomoe and Miya pairing started. All i saw was Tomoe ordering Miya around.
Tomoe ordered Miya around and discarded her when she is of no further use. While Miya stayed loyal and claimed there wasn't anyone else involved, even after she lost aboslutely everything.

Blackmail, to me, is out of the question. No amount of blackmail is going to be worse than being convicted of organising a rape. You cannot embarass someone who is being looked upon as a criminal.

Nothing in the physical world could have made Miya keep her mouth shut; so whatever it was must be mental. Thus the only possible explanation to me is that Miya was in a one-way abusive relationship which Tomoe took advantage of.

Miya lost everything; you can't blackmail someone with nothing left to lose.
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Old 2007-06-05, 01:26   Link #522
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Yes, Mashiro's ghost appears before Fumi, but that's it. Nobody else is seen.
So for now I have no other explanation than... a plot hole ^^
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Old 2007-06-07, 04:43   Link #523
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hey can someone tell me if they going to make another anime for the mai franchise... What i hope for is a Mai Otome sequel instead of that OVA's which i feel is way too short....
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Old 2007-06-07, 05:12   Link #524
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Well, we heard that Mai Destiny, the novel, could become an anime.

Was it confirmed yet ?
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Old 2007-06-09, 16:01   Link #525
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A question concerning the Mai Otome Manga series:
Spoiler for Mai Otome Manga:
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Old 2007-06-11, 20:34   Link #526
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Well, we heard that Mai Destiny, the novel, could become an anime. Was it confirmed yet ?
Nope, everything about the Mai Destiny anime is just rumors unfortunately.

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Yes, Mashiro's ghost appears before Fumi, but that's it. Nobody else is seen.
Could it be that Fumi's MIP is Mashiro?
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Old 2007-06-15, 09:36   Link #527
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What's the name of Chie's GEM?
Word, yo, been more than a week.
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Old 2007-06-15, 13:27   Link #528
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What's the name of Chie's GEM?
This may not have been mentioned in any cannon material (anime or print) as of yet. Poking around on some japanese fan sites, I see what seem to be references to her gem:

擁有GEM・稱號:?(unnamed,一顆藍色的GEM)

which bablefish translates as:
擁 possession GEM 稱 號: ? (Unnamed, one condylar indigo GEM)

on another

珍珠GEM / 詛咒之黑耀石(瓦爾基里 GEM)

which bablefish translates as:
Distinctiveness 珠 GEM/詛 咒 之? 耀 stone (tile 爾 basic village GEM)

But since they don't seem to agree, I'm not sure if they are just fanfic, or I am just reading them the page wrong, or if perhaps one is referring to the gem she wore when she infiltrated Nagi's Valkyries, although Wiki refers to that as:

Cursed Obsidian (呪詛の黒曜石 Juso no Kokuyōseki)

And the characters for that don't seem to match either of the previose names.

Sorry! Best I can do. Maybe someone who can actually read Japanese can she some light on those references?

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Old 2007-06-16, 01:51   Link #529
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hey can anyone tell me when season 4 will come out? and what happened to Nina after she was taken to the underwater temple? what happened to the book of neptune?
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Old 2007-06-16, 01:54   Link #530
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hey can anyone tell me when season 4 will come out? and what happened to Nina after she was taken to the underwater temple? what happened to the book of neptune?
No season 4 is announced. We don't know what happened to Nina since the last episode is not released until August 25th.
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Old 2007-06-16, 11:53   Link #531
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In HiME, was it Midori who (indirectly) convinced Mashiro to try and fight destiny, or did she plan to do so all along, and would have done it even without Midori?
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Old 2007-06-20, 06:10   Link #532
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In HiME, was it Midori who (indirectly) convinced Mashiro to try and fight destiny, or did she plan to do so all along, and would have done it even without Midori?

i think she was planning it all along. been a while since i saw the series, but if memory serves correct mashiro was annoyed that the fighting started a bit early than she expected? she also recovered miyu b4 they turn against each other so that miyu could get them revived. so is say she was plannig it all along, midori only reinforced her beleifs that it was the right thing.
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Old 2007-06-24, 09:30   Link #533
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Here is the full dialogue concerning this showdown. Miyu was obviously recovered prior to episode 21, but some time did pass between the meeting in 18-19 and the one in 21. It is known that Miyu was retrieved from the lake before episode 21 started (as revealed by John Smith to Natsuki), but not when exactly.

The dialogue goes as follows:


(Episode 18)

(Mashiro is reading a report)
Midori: In that report is a story about an accident during an excavation. The name of the girl who died is Kazahana Mashiro.
Mashiro: I thought I destroyed all public records, but I guess I couldn't go as far as private documents.
Midori: I'm not asking that! What I want to know is who you are and what role you play. And if there is a way of stopping this foolish carnival.
Mashiro: I'm on the side of those who must perpetuate the carnival, Sugiura-sensei.
Midori: Sensei, eh? I thought of it as merely a checkpoint, or a way of dealing with things until my thesis was complete... But there are kids who like a halfway decent teacher like me. I was really starting to think of becoming a teacher. Therefore, I will protect them.
(summons her Element)
I can't waste a second anymore. I'll have you speak the truth, no matter what it takes.
Mashiro: In that case, I will, too. We shall take our stance, too.
Fumi (shields Mashiro): I'm sorry, Sugiura-sensei. (summons her Element)
Midori: I see.
(They stand against each other)

(Episode 19)

(The following is Midori's flashback as she is watching TV)
(Fumi unsummons her Element and curtseys; Midori is lying on the floor before her)
Mashiro: Sugiura-sensei, do you believe that destiny can be altered with willpower alone?
Midori: Of course!
Mashiro: Then please, do your very best in this situation. For the sake of the girls.
(The flashback ends; Midori looks sadly at a photo of the karaoke party from episode 16)

(Episode 21)

Midori: What are you planning to do? Making Mai-chan and Mikoto-chan...
Fumi (enters): Mashiro-sama! This was sent. (puts a letter on the table)
Mashiro (reads): I guess he knew it already. Before we figured out who he was, he gave us an invitation.
(summons anti-eavesdropping field)
Sugiura-sensei, there's something I must inform you about.
Nagi (outside): A barrier, eh? I wonder what they're talking about in there.
Midori: But that's...
Mashiro: Yes, that's the mystery to Ikusahime's Carnival.
Midori: Lord Kokuyou. Princess Suishou. This means you're...
Mashiro: You said that emotions could change destiny.
Midori: Yes.
Mashiro: We wish to try our luck at that.
Midori: I'll go, too.
Mashiro: (shakes head) I'll hand this over to you. (draws out the key to Miyu's chamber)
Fumi: Mashiro-sama, she has yet to...
Mashiro: Yes, but her repairs should be complete soon. (to Midori, handing the key) I'll leave the decision of whether or not to awaken her up to you.


Also, two more questions regarding Miyu:
1. Is "Yggdrasil" in her designation a reference to anything else other than Norse mythology?
2. Is HiME Miyu waterproof? Otome Miyu obviously is (and can even swim), but since some time is needed to repair HiME Miyu after she is retrieved from the lake, it doesn't look like she merely stepped down and deactivated herself.
3. For that matter, why did she enter the lake in the first place? To self-terminate? To hide her and Alyssa's bodies from Searrs agents? She obviously wasn't very successful with the latter - had Mashiro not retrieved her earlier, Searrs would have found them both in the lake - John Smith did know where to search.
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Old 2007-06-24, 15:12   Link #534
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The damages caused by the frost may be the reason why it took so long to repair HIME-miyu.

For the rest, i think it free for interpretations.






A question, no link with which has been said before :

What type of monsters is Miroku (anime one...) ?
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Old 2007-06-24, 22:04   Link #535
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Miroku the sword is Mikoto's Element. The underground spikey-thing, which is, confusingly, also named Miroku, is her Child. At least this is how I understand it.
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Old 2007-06-25, 08:03   Link #536
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3. For that matter, why did she enter the lake in the first place? To self-terminate? To hide her and Alyssa's bodies from Searrs agents? She obviously wasn't very successful with the latter - had Mashiro not retrieved her earlier, Searrs would have found them both in the lake - John Smith did know where to search.
Yes, I do believe Miyu was feeling suicidally depressed, or whatever passes for that in robots, due to the loss of Alyssa.
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Old 2007-06-25, 10:53   Link #537
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Miroku the sword is Mikoto's Element. The underground spikey-thing, which is, confusingly, also named Miroku, is her Child. At least this is how I understand it.


Thanks but...

I mean, what kind of monster (Duran is a wolf, Kiyohime is a hydra, Vras a chess-horse...) is the spikey one ?
It goes the same with Isaac - Alyssa's Child in the manga.
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Old 2007-06-25, 13:04   Link #538
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Static Subs wrote a nice guide at the end of episode 26.

I don't have it right now, so I'll try to retranslate it from my polish version

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Miroku refers to the Miroku God, Maitreya in Sanskrit, from the Mitra religion.
Google this name and maybe you will find something
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Old 2007-06-26, 11:47   Link #539
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Probably a stupid question, but what if Natsuki actually shot Nagi in HiME episode 4? (Yes, yes, Nao and the main three give each other a really good beating. But I mean, after that.)
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Old 2007-06-26, 12:33   Link #540
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Static Subs wrote a nice guide at the end of episode 26.

I don't have it right now, so I'll try to retranslate it from my polish version



Google this name and maybe you will find something

Thanks.
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